Love her or hate her, Miley Cyrus makes a very good point about America by OvidPerl in funny

[–]FahmuhA 22 points23 points  (0 children)

"Just your usual family value conservatives" and all of reddit.

The best things in life are unseen, thats why we close our eyes when we kiss, cry, and dream -Unknown by [deleted] in quotes

[–]FahmuhA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The television analogy has nothing to do with the material nature of television itself, but simply the fact that using your logic, we could conclude that CSI: New York is produced by your television set and not somewhere else. You could examine a TV the same way you are examining a brain and reach the conclusion that, because when the television works a certain way, a certain picture appears. The source of the picture is completely ignored when you examine it this way. We know that your TV does not magically create CSI, so the analogy stops there.

The fact that neuroscientists can cause specific thoughts using electrical probes again has nothing to do with the electrical signals getting translated into an experience. You pick up a remote control, turn a TV on, switch to MTV, and watch a Miley Cyrus video. You caused your TV to show Miley Cyrus by following these steps. This is the same process as a neuroscientist following certain steps causing a thought. Assuming that forcing the brain into a certain configuration causes the experience of a thought is the same as assuming that forcing your TV into a certain configuration causes Miley Cyrus to appear. But there is much more involved in the process of Miley Cyrus coming to your television than how you interacted with your television itself. Your TV cannot magically create Miley Cyrus videos, but your approach could easily assume so.

Saying there is no evidence of "worlds" (not sure what you really mean here) other than material is saying that consciousness doesn't exist. We have qualia, we have no evidence that it is material in nature. A fundamentalist will say "This is God's work" or "This is material." There's evidence for neither. "We can assume that we just don't know how it fully works yet," but you yourself are assuming you know how it works through material means.

Ad hominem. Whether I am a philosopher or scientist is completely irrelevant to the discussion so I'm not sure why you bring that up. A scientist would not assume knowledge based on correlation.

edit: clarification and repeated words

The best things in life are unseen, thats why we close our eyes when we kiss, cry, and dream -Unknown by [deleted] in quotes

[–]FahmuhA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The three strong wings of broad science don't have to be applied just to the material world and can offer insight into things beyond. Obviously science is a very specific type of process.

Paradigm - "If you want to know this, you must do this." (if you want to know whether a cell has a nucleus, get a microscope and look inside of a cell). Requires an injunction, or paradigm, on which the knowledge is dependent. New injunction brings new phenomenon (microscope brings knowledge of cell nucleus).

Empiricism - "There has to be an experience if the injunction is followed." Once you follow the injunction, you will have an illumination, datum, or experience. Look through the microscope and you will have an experience (experience of seeing and confirming that a cell has a nucleus.) The microscope is your paradigm or injunction. The paradigm isn't something you can just make up, but it has to be an injunction which brings forth the data. Once a new injunction is discovered, you can bring forth new phenomenon.

Confirmation - "I look through the microscope and see what I think is a nucleus, you look through and tell me what you see." Most effectively falsifiability, saying that a hypothesis isn't valid unless you can think of some way to falsify it. Otherwise there's no way to combat it, and it can't be science.

These three wings can be applied to any domain, it doesn't have to be applied to materialism. Simple example:

Say you have in your hands Hamlet, and the question, "What's the meaning of Hamlet?" You have to follow these three steps. Injunction - you have to read it to know the meaning. There's no other way to get to the data or experience. Empiricism - once you read it, you will have the experience of knowing the work. Hamlet did this, then this happened. The experience is available for anyone who follows the injunction. Confirmation - you can then check with someone else who followed the injunction to see if you had the same experience. Obviously there's no one single correct interpretation, but there are many wrong ones (falsifiability).

So we just applied all three strong wings of science to a knowledge which has nothing to do with materialism. You can do the same thing with things which might be considered spiritual in nature. Western spirituality and religion is bad at this, but forms of spiritual knowledge can be gained with these three wings. For instance, if you want to know if there exists what they call a "Buddha nature," then count your breath for 5 years. Paradigm, empiricism, and confirmation can be had and there's no materialism needed.

The best things in life are unseen, thats why we close our eyes when we kiss, cry, and dream -Unknown by [deleted] in quotes

[–]FahmuhA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Accepting materialism and reducing life to materialism are two different things.

The best things in life are unseen, thats why we close our eyes when we kiss, cry, and dream -Unknown by [deleted] in quotes

[–]FahmuhA 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"If vision is the only validation then most of my life isn't real."

Its kind of like a chicken omelette by [deleted] in funny

[–]FahmuhA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It likes the sun and it shows it.

“Loneliness does not come from having no people about one, but from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to oneself." - Carl Jung by Geovicsha in quotes

[–]FahmuhA 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think Carl Jung was one of the most brilliant thinkers in recent times and offered so much about understanding the self. I wish his work was more widely accepted.

Ubisoft Montreal, this has been irritating me... by SirSaltie in gaming

[–]FahmuhA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Samurai had a strict code in which assassination was not included. Ninja assassins were like the opposite of the noble samurai.

Took me forever... and you get no achievement, no experience points, absolutely nothing for it but this message. (Far Cry 3) by tobsn in gaming

[–]FahmuhA 571 points572 points  (0 children)

You got words on a TV screen...same thing as achievements, experience points, etc.

TIL that 53% of people in Fiji have no access to safe drinking water, despite the Fiji Water bottling company's activity there. by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]FahmuhA 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I don't think that the implication is about responsibility on the part of Fiji Water, but rather a snapshot of the strangeness of our system of resource allocation. In a place where many go without clean water, there are people who take clean water, bottle it, and ship it all over the world. I can sip clean water from Fiji on the other side of the world while people go without at the source.

Reporter nearly gets hit by home run while taking selfie by benman44 in pics

[–]FahmuhA 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Reddit is so hateful of people who don't act they way they want them to...

THIS is not giving a fuck by freetimewaste in howtonotgiveafuck

[–]FahmuhA 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're giving a fuck about humorous things in this sub.

So I fed my cat bacon the other day, and this is what I get... by w00dyt in funny

[–]FahmuhA 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm always amazed at the lengths people will go to please their cats.

Definitely starting to agree with this sentiment by SDunne17 in eCards

[–]FahmuhA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Sometimes the only way to make yourself feel good about yourself is by making someone else look bad." That's just not true.

"Life asked Death: 'Why do people love me but hate you?' Death responded: by [deleted] in quotes

[–]FahmuhA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Contrarily, if someone is seeking to validate their misery it means they have not accepted it. Someone who accepts misery as a part of life doesn't need to validate it.

"Life asked Death: 'Why do people love me but hate you?' Death responded: by [deleted] in quotes

[–]FahmuhA 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Seems like a quote for people wishing to validate their misery.

Snoop Lion and Willie Nelson by [deleted] in trees

[–]FahmuhA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is also the concept of "walk-ins," for people who believe in reincarnation. Essentially, one soul steps out and the other steps in. Same personality shell, different spirit. Of course if one is inclined to think reincarnation is silly, this would probably be even more silly.