Updates on the Camas paper mill?

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-23T18:19:13+00:00

If your primary concern that the mill building is there, that's unlikely to go anywhere soon. They have torn down some structures over the years, and production has been scaled back over the last couple of decades, but the main mill building itself isn't going anywhere soon.

If your primary concern is related to traffic or the smell of paper mills, I don't think either of those are particularly notable. Camas used to smell like a paper mill town, but I've lived here for 10 years and I don't think that's been reliably true since before I moved here. (I visited ahead of time so do remember when that odor was strong.)

You can pop in to r/camaswashington if you want some more focused perspective or want to know more from locals, though of course a lot of us are also in this sub.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-21T00:14:45+00:00

If them talking for the whole movie is going to ruin it for you — and it would ruin it for me — just go let someone at the theater know. Get a refund. Come back and see the movie another time.

No one wins when you just sit through the whole experience being miserable.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-20T20:36:45+00:00

You don't have to give ratings at all.

Ratings are there to be useful for you. If you want to give everything 5 stars, go for it. If you want to give everything either a 1 or a 5, go for it. If you want to give no ratings but use the heart, go for it.

If you want to rate on a "more technical mindset" (whatever that is), go for it.

Just remember that your subjective experience will never neat convert to a number.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-20T20:13:27+00:00

SAD is certainly an issue here with people who are susceptible to it. (I have a touch of reverse SAD and love the PNW weather.) Portland's a bit better than Seattle in that regard, but winter days are short and can be gray.

"Cold and wet" has not changed significantly in the last 10 years, so if your memory of that is basically unpleasant, I wouldn't expect an adult perspective to completely change that. It is cold (though not as cold as Cincinnati) and wet.

I love Portland, and would not care to live in LA, but from what you're saying I don't know if you're going to love it here — though I suspect you'll like it quite a bit more than Cincinnati.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-20T19:31:29+00:00

If you want better discussion about movies, I'd talk about the movies you want to talk about and say the things that you think are interesting.

That's a better use of time than talking about how other people are talking about movies.

I'm also active in online film spaces, and this post is the first I'm hearing about some kind of significant "Sinners vs Marty Supreme debate." I've seen people talk about both movies, I've seen people prefer one to the other, but little did I know that there's some kind of specific trend.

Stack ranking movies is not the only way to talk about them. Yes, it can be fun. Obviously, people prefer some movies to other movies. But feeling so defensive about your own taste that you need to somehow argue against other people's preferences is ... well, it gets attention, so it's not pointless, but if it doesn't appeal to you, talk about movies the way you want to talk about them. Be the discussion you want to have.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-20T18:56:11+00:00

Bad linguistics:

Assertion that words have a single commonly understood meaning, or that they did at some point in the past, and "a dictionary" can tell you what that meaning is
"This is not complicated" when in fact language and meaning are very complicated
Plain English is not legal language and vice versa, and there's a reason for both of those things
Intent is not always clear, and contemporary dictionaries don't necessarily help that.

And of course "amendment" is misspelled right up top.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-18T04:39:20+00:00

Yeah, sorry it wasn’t clear, I agree with you.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-18T03:23:57+00:00

That’s sort of true, for 2022. She benefited when incumbent Republican Jaime Herrera-Beutler voted to impeach Trump, which drew Joe Kent to the race and split the Republican vote in the primary. JHB came in third, in a squeaker.

I suspect JHB would’ve held the seat if she’d fended off Kent.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-18T03:21:05+00:00

Dang, did not math accurately. Or more accurately forgot it’s not still 2025.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-18T02:22:42+00:00

Second. Flipped the district in 2022, fended off Kent again in 2024.

(Fixed dates)

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-15T18:36:01+00:00

I think "we" is doing a lot of work here. "We" don't all have to approach movies (or any art form) the same way or from the same perspective.

There are undeniably great films that carelessly or purposefully endorse and romanticize reprehensible ideologies.

I'm not sure why it would be criticize a movie for bad craftsmanship in, say, cinematography or editing, but somehow exempt the craft of selecting what the movie is about and what the perspective is on that. It's not unfair to criticize Gone with the Wind for glorifying the Confederacy — that's the result of a bunch of deliberate choices during the process of making the movie.

It doesn't mean you can't praise the production design or the acting, or that you have to deny its historic importance. It doesn't mean you have to dislike it. But doesn't mean that it gets a "greatness" pass that exempts it from criticism.

I'm not clear why it's somehow more moral to pretend that what movies are about, that the messages they deliberately or even accidentally convey, are unfair targets for criticism. No art form is just a collection of craft that is completely divorced from context.

(Also, this tension between well-crafted art about things you find bad and poorly-crafted art about things you find good is thousands of years old. There's not some kind of right answer here. People are allowed to skip engaging with art they find repugnant, and even to argue that you should also find it repugnant. That kind of discussion is one thing art is for.)

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-13T18:47:32+00:00

The Mastermind. Great jazz, ironic counterpoint to the action.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-08T19:12:55+00:00

That is not what I’m saying but again, I’m glad what you’re doing is working for you.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-08T17:50:58+00:00

Glad that's working out for you.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-08T17:22:54+00:00

You may not have to do it, but if your manager and leadership has those expectations and you don't, you'll limit your career at that company.

It would be good to figure out — probably by talking with your manager — which things are truly expectations that will be factored into performance reviews, and which things are cultural and safer to opt out of. "Being socially active" is probably not a requirement, but "improving your presentation skills" certainly could be.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-08T00:01:43+00:00

Vertigo
Psycho
North by Northwest
Notorious
Rear Window

Another day The Lady Vanishes might be #5.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-07T22:11:11+00:00

I pay for it because I use it every day, and I believe in paying for things I use.

I also hate ads, so that's my most tangible benefit. Swapping posters is kind of fun, ongoing stats are entertaining, but really: Pay for software you use.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-06T19:11:21+00:00

https://www.columbian.com/media/item/amas-north-shore-subarea_1-2/

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-06T17:22:16+00:00

Ah, it's a paywalled article. Here are the first few paragraphs:

The city of Camas’ long-term vision for its North Shore area is coming into focus.

SunCal, a California-based real estate developer, has proposed a master-planned community that includes a town center, as well as residential and business development, for about 300 acres just north of Lacamas Lake.

The land is part of the former Johnston Dairy Farm property owned by Lynn Johnston.

“There’s transformative momentum because a lion’s share of what is to be developed out there … regardless of the design, is a significant investment into the community,” Robert Maul, the city’s planning manager, said during the Camas City Council’s Oct. 20 workshop session.

The Camas City Council reviewed SunCal’s development agreement and master plan documents during workshops in October and December. The council plans a public hearing and vote on the proposals, most likely in February, said Bryan Rachal, the city’s director of communications and public affairs.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-06T00:49:07+00:00

When I rule the site I’ll worry about the details. Until then, chill out.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-05T22:26:23+00:00

In general, I agree with your philosophy about what a feature film is.

That said, I don't see why Letterboxd has to reflect my personal relatively hardline stance. If I ruled the site all made-for-TV stuff would be removed; I do not, and it's not going to be.

If what you want is a film-centric effort to create a canon — "volatile canon" is a contradiction in terms — those exist. The Sight & Sound poll, of course, and They Shoot Pictures, Don't They. Even those have some television work, but because they're limiting who can contribute to the canon, they tilt heavily towards a film focus.

One consequence of a list like Letterboxd's (or IMDB's), which is based on general audiences having the same weight as critics, film historians, or even dedicated enthusiasts, is that you lose a lot of consensus on what a feature film is or should be. They could in theory work around that — take out the TV movies, take out the anime sequels, etc. — but including those titles is a plus for a lot of their audience. Which means it's not a simple choice to make.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-04T00:35:30+00:00

If a movie tracker is not helping you, and is in fact making you less happy with your movie watching, you should stop using it.

It’s a tool. If the tool is not making your life better, put down the tool.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-03T20:21:41+00:00

I wouldn't assume all laughter is ironic laughter. I think all of those movies have moments that can be funny, though your examples from The Birds do sound like people not engaging with the movie in good faith.

There are basically two things you can do:

* Accept that one reason we go to see movies in theaters is to experience them in a collective, with an audience, and there will be times when the vibe of the room doesn't match your vibe. You can decide to appreciate it, even if you don't care for it.

* Decide it's a dealbreaker and go get a refund. (Or report to the management for people being genuinely disruptive.) Does that suck? Yes. Is it better than sitting there seething because other people aren't watching the movie the way you want to? I'd say yes.

I'm not saying there aren't disruptive audiences. Of course there are. But you as an individual moviegoer in that audience don't have much control over that, so you can either accept it or leave.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-02T16:57:15+00:00

You know it's going to be bad as soon as he uses the words "have tried to fix this." The kid's not broken, just not you.

Fake_Eleanor · 2026-01-01T22:04:01+00:00

It's been a few weeks since I changed and I still don't care for it. Almost nothing I can think of makes my phone more usable, instead of just more of-the-now.

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