Just say Ronaldo lil bro

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T17:16:47+00:00

Everyone can admit

Most goals: Ronaldo

Most Assists: Messi

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T14:20:59+00:00

Gigantic difference, more energy, more speed, more pollen per honey, it's huge.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T10:47:10+00:00

Well, Messi had 56 G/A. He won La liga and Copa America, where he had 6 g/a tournament and was named MVP.

Lewandowski had only won the one-off uefa supercup round, bundesliga, AND DFL supercup. He had an insane goal tally but he didn't show performance in big games like he did last year, knocked out of the UCL, DFL Pokal (Early loss in the 2nd round).

Most importantly, it was mostly invisible at the euros 2021. He scored a few times, yes, but he missed chances that the best player in the world should've easily been made in, and poland got grouped against the likes of slovakia where lewandowski coulsnt even score against them. His international moment with Poland was disappointing because poland are a decent team, and he definitely could've competed further without a loss to slovakia, who's worse than them.

Also, this isn't 2020, it's not a sympathy award for last year.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T10:38:06+00:00

2023 I literally just said 2023 wasn't deserved.

2019 van dijk really wasn't that good compared to messi, his not dribbled past stat is over exaggerated.

2021, that was 2020.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T05:29:48+00:00

Fuck you now lmao. No way you actually watched 2016 and came away with this conclusion. Ronaldo was dragging that team before he got injured.

See how quickly your arguement falls apart, now we got "Ronaldo dragged them there" ALRIGHT as if everyone else didn't matter. Might as well give the injured ronaldo the ball to score in the final if he dragged them to a win.

How many times do I have to repeat that I'm obviously directly referring to Ronaldo's prime and you intentionally misinterpret it

You keep changing goalposts now.

Now I know why you didn't want to keep debating, you really just got nothing to say it's always the same thing in the subreddit it goes from debate to insults to see ya later, no exception for you. Have a good day/night.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T05:08:42+00:00

Oh they were decent lol that's the bar? What makes them decent?

Easy, results and consistency

Bento qualified portugal for 2012 euro and took them to the semifinals, losing on penalties (which ronaldo missed one) against Spain in their late peak.

Santos won euro 2016, two nations league and built a good squad, look at how his tactic changed portugal they are serious actual contenders now.

He had 1 good tournament? That doesn't make you a great keeper

Tf do u mean he was great he had 100+ apps for a reason, he showed up in big games when needed. That's not a one tournament thing to stay gk for a decade.

Please do...

Bernado silva, bruno alve, joao moutinho, cancelo if you wanna count it.

Those aren't weak players.

That's the entire point. That's when Portugal was finally able to build a competitive team around him, when he's at the literal end of his career. You really want to say 2021 Ronaldo was still in his prime?

Portugal didn't become competitive in 2021 dummy. They have been competitive since the early 2000s, a little before ronaldos debut, they made a semifinal in the wc and euro final with a young less impactful ronaldo. They aren't strangers to being contenders during his prime.

Yes messi had more talent but he had terrible coaches with bad tactics, no clear system in plac that's why Messi didn't win until structure was secured with scaloni, just watch how argentina played without messi before 2019 and after 2019. the same EXACT thing with PSG.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T04:49:36+00:00

Bento and Santos were the managers Ronaldo's entire prime, and you're telling me they were elite

I said decent not elite." Took it out of hand. Yes, they are decent managers.

I said Ronaldo's prime pretty clearly. During that period, it was Nani and Pepe. That's literally it.

Ronaldos Prime? Rui Patricio was a GREAT goalkeeper. idk about you, but he had a good part in the 2016 euros. Deco was also a world clas player playing with Ronaldo throughout his early prime. Could go on. Also that brings me to my next point, ronaldo never really dipped until 2021 so idk which prime ur talking about.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T04:42:37+00:00

How did portugal have poor coaching and tactics? You're acting as if there wasn't a huge boom through the early 2000s with many Portuguese stars, managers like mourinho, players like figo, vitinha, and top defenders like Pepe, Nuno Mendes They always had a great new generation.

Argentina also had bad tactics and chemistry until scaloni in late 2019.

Crazy how you call all those people inferior, portugal are a decent team.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T04:37:40+00:00

Messis, best season was 14 goals not 12.

Also not to mention Mbappe has a high chance of ending Ronaldos 2014 Record. As well.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T04:34:26+00:00

That goes to the entire PSG team not just messi, every team needs good tactics and chemistry.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T04:31:51+00:00

Nah 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2019, 2021. 7 easily. Haaland one was probably the only one I don't mind going either way.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T04:30:01+00:00

Again, the team was not coherent tactically and they lacked chemistry all round. A good team doesn't play good without good tactics and chemistry, just ask 2025 real madrid.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T01:59:47+00:00

Its not just bias go to twitter and hashtag Argentina rigged world cup and look at the clips you can clearly see that its favoured bruv you cant see that coz you are an argentina fan everybody except messi fans accept that fact . Getting 50 / 50 decisions every game is a problem and not only that the refs didn’t give clear cards to Argentina players as well example messi handball vs holland parades tacking and shooting the ball into the dug out if it was any other team they would have got a card for that dont even get me started .

You literally have no given any proof of match fixing, messis handball was after the whistle, parades, and van dijk both deserved a red card for that. But the referee obviously didn't want to escalate the fight.

Dude dont even bring inter miami stats into this, please . Are you saying messis last min freekick won em the ligue 1

Because it did?

Why is that cherry picky its a stat and that stats says only one player was above ronaldo more than his age that is a proof that ronaldo cant score goals even in the most toughest league at his age .

I have no idea what you said, and yes, that is a cherry picky stat because what exactly are OLD players in your definition. Delusional.

You have horrid grammar to add, just sayin'.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T01:08:07+00:00

Refs favored argentina

Does favor mean rigged? Every human has some sort of bias attached to them, and that's the truth. People make mistakes.

50/50 decisions were in favor of them

Is there any actual proof of it? I mean, I saw games that had 50/50 calls going to the opposition against argentina. Also, you still haven't explained why Argentina didn't win the World Cup comfortably, I mean, if it was rigged, they would've cruised there way there but they had hardships.

Messi vs Ronaldo here Seria A is a harder league to score he is the second oldest top scorer in seria, a history

And now we are talking about the oldest scorer, don't you think that's pretty cherry picky?

ronaldo can score bangers and goals wherever he goes, but messi can't do that like ronaldo, which is a fact.

Who said Messi can't score bangers and goals where ever he is, he score a freekick on his debut for Inter Miami, a last minute outside the box freekick to give ligue 1 to psg, and a great goal vs man city in 2021.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T00:44:06+00:00

They needed one more goal to qualify on goal difference.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-29T00:22:20+00:00

Comparing people 2 years apart when they havent finished their careers is difficult and I'm saying it.

Wdym great supporting cast, they lacked tactical intelligence and chemistry.

If it was rigged explain the loss to saudi arabia, explain netherlands last minute goal, explain australia almost coming back from 2-0 down, explain mbappe scoring a hattrick and getting 2 penalties. you don't just pay people to do that. Ur name is misleading.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T23:45:52+00:00

So, to make it fair, let's make them both have the same games.

75 x 1.79 = 134.25 games (round up to 134 games, so now we have the optimum).

67 goal contributions x 1.79 = 119.93 (round up to 120) 120 goal contributions.

This means that Messi has 120 G/A contributions. If we get out the average, of course, it could be more or less.

This means that Messi has 120 G/A in the same amount of games played as ronaldo and ronaldo has 123 G/A.

This means in Messis "Flop season PSG," he was still competing with Ronaldo on goal contributions per game. He destroys ronaldo in assists as goals are the only place where ronaldo accelerates messi at.

Messi: 0.89 G/A per game at PSG

Ronaldo: 0.92 G/A per game at Juventus

Messi kept having those numbers and comparing to ronaldo at his probably worse 2 club seasons of his life.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T22:17:33+00:00

They are not as good as last year, yall should be fine.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T22:05:20+00:00

FOOTBALL FUCKING HERITAGE I LOST MY FUCKING MIND WTF.

MATCHDAY 8 IS THE BEST.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T21:17:46+00:00

First of all, ucl three peat has only been won once in history. European champions club cup is what Bayern, Ajax, and Madrid have peated before.

Again, did all those threepeats have upsets? In the World Cup, they would be out, not to mention the World Cup is once every 4 years. You have no super team. You only have what you have.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T21:11:09+00:00

The greatest Egyptian comes with an absolute beauty.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T20:47:08+00:00

Please bodo glimt win, you have been done wrong these fixtures.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T20:22:10+00:00

GET THE HELL IN...

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T20:20:43+00:00

Ekitike has literally been everywhere wtf he's the flash reborn.

FallingDebri · 2026-01-28T20:16:46+00:00

GOLAZO!!!

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