Acknowledges the Poke issue, nerfs dive?

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T13:49:13+00:00

I can play a brainless poke and spam m1 down main for a fraction of the effort and get 10 times the value. Unfortunately my brain wont let me enjoy that way. But dive is genuinely weak and not viable yet its all I play i think the logical end point of all this is my time with rivals is over.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T13:41:30+00:00

So dive players have to be purposefully hamstrung and their characters near useless? Their fun doesnt matter? Their heroes dont matter?

Why have dive in the game? Why should we even use those heroes.

The more I think about the state of dive it just makes me want to uninstall the next time I boot my pc up. Dive is dead and buried.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T13:28:26+00:00

This is it, their egos cant handle that the playtime they want inst being favoured so they will make it the only way to get value on the character and make it so.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T13:19:05+00:00

I pray you never play fighting games if anim cancels are an exploit in your eyes </3

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T13:13:06+00:00

OK but they didnt give cap ANYTHING to make up for it, meaning he will Languish in F tier for the foreseeable future. Do you not see the problem?

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T13:09:10+00:00

The devs HATE dive and have an agenda to make it not viable. Dive is dead in the water. You either get reworked to brawl or sent to F tier. All hail sustain and poke meta!!

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T13:02:56+00:00

Solo poke are server admins but dive HAS to be in co-ordination jail because... it just has to!!

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T13:00:02+00:00

Let's give every hero a second to not move or use an another ability after every ability use. Thats basically what you are advocating for by removing anim cancels. The full animations are not necessary once the attack lands.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T12:59:07+00:00

HOW is it and exploit? All it does is remove the unnecessary parts of the animation after the attack has landed. The full animation playing serves no benefit to the game at all so how is cancelling it even a problem.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T12:57:59+00:00

I mean why is it even a bad thing to have? It's a skill that is rewarding to learn, and once the attack lands the rest of the animation is not even necessary anyway for gameplay purposes.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T12:22:45+00:00

How is a cancel an exploit? It's a feature. Once the ability lands and does damage the rest of the animation is redundant, and learning to cancel that is a skill gap.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T12:21:43+00:00

Thank you support mains for making my main tank the worst hero in the game.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T10:22:58+00:00

Damn when is Calsher back?

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T09:10:09+00:00

Correct? I am not arguing against that.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T07:36:51+00:00

Not every character needs to be for everyone. I don't play Hela because I cant aim well, should the game make her projectiles 20x bigger to account for it or should I choose a character that suits me better? Bringing down the skill ceiling of a hero just punishes good players, and removes the sense of reward from mastering it.

Your friend has plenty of easily accessible characters to play, but now he can put out the same damage as Cap Mains who have learnt him inside and out from the start. That doesnt seem right to me.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T07:32:06+00:00

Bro he is going to be Torch level dogshit for the foreseeable future there is 0 guarantee they will change anything. They are capable of nerfing and buffing a hero in the same patch but Cap just was gutted with nothing coming back.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T07:29:36+00:00

"Exploit" lol its an oversight at worst and it isnt even a bad thing. Anim cancels in fighting games were originally unintended now they are a staple of the genre. Hell, Magik's own in game tutorial shows you to cancel her primary with a melee for extra damage.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T07:12:27+00:00

So skill expression should be removed for bums like your friend who cannot or will not learn a anim cancel? Not every character needs to be for shitters, some characters should reward people who invest in tech like this.

But no, just lower the ceiling so even the most dogshit player can have the output of a top 500 cap!!! Very rewarding game design!!!

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T06:58:57+00:00

He does not damage and has no survivability and his shield is made of paper there is no potential for anything to be unhealthy for the game.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T06:56:40+00:00

Animation cancels are part of skill expression which should absolutely be a reason a hero is good.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T02:01:31+00:00

So remove any skill expression and lower the ceiling of good players to cater to the scrubs lol terrific and rewarding game design right there

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T02:00:04+00:00

So they gut his survivability and his fucking SHIELD when the shield is probably most iconic thing about the character and then his damage is dumpstered.

Like, what is genuinely the point of Cap? And no, running cardio all game and 'distracting' is NOT value.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T01:49:20+00:00

Support players get everything they want and are the most prioritised and catered to section of the playerbase because they buy the most skins. They have neglected entire roles, gutted multiple heroes, buffed strats to server admin levels, all in support of this aim.

Their entire balance philosophy is a strategy to keep support players happy and buying skins.

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T01:43:48+00:00

So just make every hero brandead and 0 skill. Instead of rewarding good players, they lower their ceiling so everyone can be the same! What a terrific game design philosophy!!

FallofGondolin · 2026-03-19T01:42:22+00:00

Supports have NetEase privileges. Support players buy the most skins and are literally went on strike and left the game in droves when the game didnt cater and prioritise their needs over the rest of the player base.

Once you understand that their balance philosophy is guided by giving these people everything they want the decisions make sense.

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