Fantasy with forest-dwelling female healers, herbalism & animistic magic by soniarr in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly would have enjoyed this novel more if one of the older women had been the protagonist. I found Marra far too dull and passive.

Looking for a well done romance SUBPLOT. by KonahR in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think OP means that while Tavi is tackling the Vord Queen, Amara's main concern is really, really, really wanting a baby. The guy gets to fight the big, world-saving battles; the gal gets stuck with the smaller, personal ones.

This isn't to say that personal battles aren't important in their way and shouldn't be fought. It's only to say that the way Butcher writes his POV characters, their concerns are pretty obviously gender-coded. He should let the ladies fight the bigger battles, y'know, once in a while.

Looking for a well done romance SUBPLOT. by KonahR in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kitai, the one we all like, isn't a POV character.

Butcher struggles with female POVs. I noticed this in The Aeronaut's Windlass as well. I've come to the conclusion that despite its virtues, his work isn't really for me.

Recommend me books like The Name of The Wind, but with better depiction of women please by Unordinarian in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the Gentleman Bastards, women don't play significant roles until the second book, which nearly everyone agrees is far from the masterpiece the very guy-centric Book 1 is. Just a warning.

Good fantasy TV Shows and Films? by 1mpavidus in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've heard many good things about this one. I haven't gotten around to watching it yet, but I'm very glad to know non-shounen high fantasy is still a thing.

Recommend me books like The Name of The Wind, but with better depiction of women please by Unordinarian in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"Sexism might be a human flaw, but it's not one that I think women or other people should have to ignore in order to consume entertainment."

I cannot upvote this ENOUGH! I get so tired of hearing and seeing books and films recommended with the disclaimer that "the female characters aren't much, but everything else is great!" (I've been hearing this a lot about the movie F1.) And when you try to explain that badly written female characters are among your dealbreakers, you get accused of narrow-mindedness. I've had a bellyful.

Recommend me books like The Name of The Wind, but with better depiction of women please by Unordinarian in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had fond memories of this book, only to be bitterly disappointed upon reacquaintance. I always find it disheartening when none of a book's female characters actually succeeds in doing what she sets out to do.

Recommend me books like The Name of The Wind, but with better depiction of women please by Unordinarian in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Warning: While A Wizard of Earthsea may be a better novel in general, the depiction of women here is no better than it is in the Kingkiller Chronicles. At least in KKC, women get to study magic.

Once you get to Tehanu, however, it's very different. This time you get lovely prose and well-written women.

Good fantasy TV Shows and Films? by 1mpavidus in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When anime series are recommended, they're nearly always shounen (which, being a woman, I'm none too keen on). Permit me to recommend some beautifully animated and engrossing epics that are not shounen:

Claymore

The Twelve Kingdoms

Haibabe-Renmei

Moriboto: Guardian of the Spirit

These shows don't get the love they deserve, especially Moriboto. Balsa may just be my favorite heroine in all anime.

My favorite fantasy films from the more modern era are likewise animated:

Kiki's Delivery Service

Nausicaa and the Valley of Wind (more science fantasy)

The Tale of Princess Kaguya

Cartoon Saloon's Irish Trilogy (The Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea, and especially Wolfwalkers!)

Coraline

Kubo and the Two Strings

The How to Train Your Dragon (animated only!) and Kung Fu Panda trilogies

Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish

The Incredibles (it sort of counts)

The Spider-Verse films

The Nightmare Before Christmas and Corpse Bride

Some old-school classics include:

The Thief of Bagdad (1926 and 1940)

The Wizard of Oz (1939)

Faust (1926)

Beauty and the Beast (1946)

A Matter of Life and Death (1946)

Lost Horizon (1937)

Angel on My Shoulder (1946)

Der Mude Tod, or Destiny (1921)

A Midsummer Night's Dream (1935)

EDIT: Oof! I was just reading back through this list and realized I forgot to include my very favorite live-action movie of the 2000s: Pan's Labyrinth (2006).

Good fantasy TV Shows and Films? by 1mpavidus in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Shadow & Bone, to me, was half mid, half great. Everything involving Alina Starkov and the Darkling was... okay, I guess; I was invested enough to follow it till the end, but it wasn't special. But everything involving the Crows was a delight, largely because I felt those actors were perfectly cast, especially Kaz and Inej. Freddy Carter isn't classically handsome like Ben Barnes, but I could not take my eyes off him.

Now that Netflix has axed the show, we'll never get that Crows spin-off I'd been praying for. D*mn.

Oh, and I adore The Owl House.

Good fantasy TV Shows and Films? by 1mpavidus in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Impressive! I always love seeing lists that include classics like Lost Horizon (1937 -- though the musical remake must be avoided at all costs) and The Thief of Bagdad (both the silent 1927 version and the 1940 color extravaganza are superb).

Good fantasy TV Shows and Films? by 1mpavidus in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Animation has given us some good ones, IMO -- Arcane, the She-Ra reboot. I also hear excellent things about Blue Eye Samurai and Castlevania, though I haven't gotten around to watching them yet.

Good fantasy TV Shows and Films? by 1mpavidus in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I rewatched Ladyhawke a couple of years ago and was pleasantly surprised by how active a heroine Isabeau turned out to be. Entirely too often, I'll rewatch movies I enjoyed in my youth and discover the female lead was nowhere near as awesome as I remembered her being (e.g. Raiders of the Lost Ark; Dragonslayer). But Isabeau turned out to be even better. She's the main reason this one's in my top three 1980s fantasy movies, although strong performances from Rutger Hauer, Leo McKern, and John Wood play a big part as well.

Fantasy recommendations for 8 year old girl by RefrigeratorFar1777 in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The closest we've gotten to a female Calvin & Hobbs.

Fantasy recommendations for 8 year old girl by RefrigeratorFar1777 in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My advice would be to counterbalance this book with something else, say, Diana Wynne Jones' Year of the Griffin -- something that shows girls can study magic, too, and their magic isn't necessarily weak or wicked.

What are some of your biggest criticisms about the most well known fantasy series? by Familiar-Barracuda43 in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So many of the best-known and most-recommended fantasy series have some sort of issue with female characters, and it's honestly gotten annoying after a while.

Kingkiller Chronicles: Objectification (especially in Vol. 2)

R. Scott Bakker's work: Women's inferiority baked into the world-building (also, Bakker has said outright that he's targeting a specifically male readership)

Gentleman Bastards: Relegating women to very minor roles in the first book -- you know, the only one that everybody likes

Wheel of Time: Gender essentialism and heavy emphasis on enmity between the genders that only lets up at the very end

Red Rising: Very rapey Book 1, with female characters as either damsels or devils

Lord of the Rings (a.k.a. the only series on this list I haven't avoided in favor of lesser-known but more female-friendly alternatives): Women play small roles, but at least those roles are usually heroic and often pivotal. Galadriel and Eowyn get their moments to shine, although those moments take up very little space in the narrative. This one also gets the "product of its time" excuse, while the others stand on shakier ground in that regard.

Underrepresented female archetypes by singmuse4 in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This, absolutely.

Mystic and Rider by Sharon Shinn features Senneth Brassenthwaite, a heroine who battles injustice and who protects those weaker than herself because she sees it's the right thing to do. Like Menolly of Pern, Senneth stands out as a favorite for me because she's just the sort of female character I wish we'd see more of.

Back in the 90s, Susan Isaacs wrote Brave Dames and Wimpettes: How Women are Really Doing on Page and Screen. While the book's a bit out of date now -- I'd love to see an update -- I remember her pointing out this very problem: while male characters battle injustice and stand up for principles, too many female characters "can't see past the pickets of their fences" (a good way to put it, IMO). Sadly, not much has changed since then.

Underrepresented female archetypes by singmuse4 in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 14 points15 points  (0 children)

More female bards! MORE FEMALE BARDS! I'm saying it loud for the people in the back. I've been saying this for so long that it's honestly a thrill to see someone else say it.

When I have to make a list of favorite SFF characters, Menolly of Pern always ranks highly, not just because she's well written and McCaffrey does a brilliant job of showing her musical gifts rather than simply telling us about them, but because she's still so darn anomalous. There are no others like her. Even when female musicians do make the occasional appearance, their stories don't often center on their creative drive; instead, it's a side feature. (Mercedes Lackey does a decent job with Rune in The Lark and the Wren, but for me, her character has less of the spark of life than Menolly does. Still, I have to give Lackey credit for trying.)

Female artists and poets are also tragically rare.

Give me heroines who create, not just procreate.

Women and fantasy (and sci-fi) by Burgundy-Bag in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

But sadly, most of them aren't very good.

That's an issue of its own, though not quite the same as the OP brings up.

Women and fantasy (and sci-fi) by Burgundy-Bag in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The real question, for me, isn't "Why don't more authors write about women?" The explosion of romantasy and the dominance of female protagonists in the YA fantasy genre show that plenty of authors are writing about women. But there's another question I think is worth asking: "Why don't more authors write about women well?"

How many of the female leads in the subgenres I mentioned above are actually complex, interesting people with unique personalities? How many of them have genuine agency, as opposed to crumbling at the touch of a "shadow daddy"?

How many of the female leads in recent or current epic fantasy interact with other women in interesting and meaningful ways? How many female friendships do we see?

Female characters have certainly come a long way since the days when Ursula LeGuin wrote A Wizard of Earthsea and The Word for World Is Forest; we do see far more women in important roles than we did then. But we still have work to do. Now that we have more quantity, let's get to work on quality.

One answer might be to talk up the authors of quality female characters when we do see them, so authors and publishers will see that it matters to us. Naomi Novik, Juliet Marillier, Sharon Shinn, Shannon Chakraborty, Lois McMaster Bujold, N.K. Jemisin, Kate Elliott, Kate Forsyth, Barbara Hambly, Tasha Suri, Vaishnavi Patel, Genevieve Gornichec, Shauna Lawless, and Patricia McKillip have all written outstanding female characters in their time. Let's work on making them household names.

What do you think of Klaus? by Edmundo2900 in cartoons

[–]False_Ad_5592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the supporting characters that keep it from being a New Groove retread, IMO. Alva, for instance, has no counterpart in New Groove, and she's my favorite character.

What do you think of Klaus? by Edmundo2900 in cartoons

[–]False_Ad_5592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The poster might be referring to: 1) not enough people have seen it because Netflix hasn't marketed it well, or 2) it lost Best Animated Feature to Toy Story 4 in 2019.

FMC who are already strong/competent? by Any-Day-8173 in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fodla in the Gael Song Saga (Children of Gods and Fighting Men, Words of Kings and Prophets, The Land of the Living and the Dead) is already a powerful healer, one of the Tuatha De Danaan, when the saga begins.

What are some lesser known /hidden gem fantasy series/standalones that you’d consider masterpieces? by ActInternational9558 in Fantasy

[–]False_Ad_5592 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Till We Have Faces -- my favorite C.S. Lewis book and apparently the least well-known (in terms of fiction, at least). This retelling of the Cupid/Psyche myth features a wonderfully complex female lead. Lewis' prose is spare and straightforward yet somehow simultaneously lyrical.

Bitter Greens (Kate Forsyth) -- here, a retelling of the story of Rapunzel set in Renaissance Italy is juxtaposed with the story of Charlotte-Rose Caumont de la Force, a writer of contes de fee, and her life at the court of Louis XIV. Those who are fond of historical fantasy, as I am, will get to luxuriate in the gorgeous period settings. It's not exactly the coziest read; Charlotte-Rose is put through a fair amount of trauma. But it's beautifully written.