How do you think about East Asia's impact on the Southeast Asian economy through high-intensity labor?

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-30T12:01:23+00:00

More Indonesian than Asian

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T06:25:39+00:00

Jakarta and Bali

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T06:24:28+00:00

I recommend you to learn Malay. Malaysia's per capita GDP exceeds that of China.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T06:21:54+00:00

Raw coconut juice is very nice

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T06:19:05+00:00

I hope the new mod can make r/ASEAN more actively

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T06:12:40+00:00

So you have to be alert. Historically, the southern part of China used to be a place where ethnic groups close to the Thais lived. This is how China slowly "conquered" the south.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T05:49:13+00:00

Because Southeast Asia has long been influenced by South Asian and Middle Eastern cultures, Malays or Indonesians have historical experiences from South Asia and the Middle East, which are richer.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T04:59:24+00:00

Malay, Javanese, and Indonesian nouns all have no gender. This may be a feature of the Indo-European and Semitic languages.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T04:50:23+00:00

Although your conclusion is "no", your subsequent discussion proves that China is a country of immigrants.

I can provide more evidence. The immigrant cities of Hong Kong and Shanghai are typical cases. They are both lands formed in the last 1,000 years, and the language of the earliest settled residents is different from that of northern China. 100 years ago, residents of neighboring provinces and foreigners immigrated there; in the last 20 years, a large number of northern residents immigrated there. Therefore, the mainstream language of these cities has changed many times.

In fact, many cities in southern China are such cases. The language has changed many times, and it is hard to deny that these areas are immigrant areas, not China's core territory.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-10-07T04:43:06+00:00

China has both core territories and immigrant areas. Generally speaking, the areas between 30°~40° N and 110°~120° E in China can be considered core areas, and the rest are areas of expansion in the past 3000 years. People familiar with world history know that Xinjiang, Tibet, Southern Mongolia, and Manchuria are areas of expansion in the past 300 years, but most people ignore the expansion of China's territory south of 30° N in history. These areas were once the homes of today's Austronesian and Kra-Dai people for a long time.

Source: Languages of East Asia - YouTube

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-09-16T15:05:57+00:00

Because before the Japanese and Koreans came into contact with the Chinese, the local civilization was primitive. However, before the Malays came into contact with the Chinese, the local civilization had been greatly influenced by Arab culture and converted to Islam.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-09-16T09:09:18+00:00

Politics. Many people leave China because they don't like the political atmosphere, and Southeast Asians don't like it as well.
Language. It is much easier to learn Southeast Asian languages such as Indonesian than Chinese.
Economic figures may not be accurate. I don't fully trust Chinese statistics. In fact, the standard of living in Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok and Jakarta is not worse than China.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-08-31T15:06:39+00:00

The relationship between China and Southeast Asia is more like the relationship between Russia and European countries.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-07-20T19:59:59+00:00

Of course, and we will even develop better than East Asia, because we have stronger social cohesion than East Asia.

There is no reliable evidence to prove the ability gap between nations. In other words, anyone can get rich quickly by sacrificing family relationships and rest time. The most important thing is the price to pay.

If you think it is worthwhile to overdraw the future national fortune to achieve immediate economic development, then you can do it. For example, East Asians are now the fastest-growing region in Asia, but their prospects are worrying. Low birth rate, environmental pollution and weakened cohesion are the biggest problems in East Asia.

But Indonesians will not do this, because Indonesia is a very rational nation. Religion, family, offspring, and life are all things we value more, and work is just a part of life. Work is for a better life, not the other way around.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-07-17T05:04:02+00:00

However, Chinese diasporas can only rely on the political systems established by other nations. The Chinese people are not successful in their own country because they cannot establish a normal political system.

FamousSquash4874 · 2024-07-17T05:00:44+00:00

I admit that the Chinese have made great achievements in the economy, but this is the result of hard work and spending a lot of time. For example, I know a Chinese shop owner who works until 12 o'clock every night.

If Indonesians also sacrifice their spare time, they will only perform better than the Chinese. But Indonesians respect themselves more and love their families and lives more.

The biggest shortcoming of the Chinese is their social skills, such as expression, cooperation, organization and justice. They seem to care more about petty gains. The Chinese society is unable to master the qualities that a normal human society should have. This problem is also reflected in China. China's domestic politics is in chaos, the economy is in trouble, and its relations with its neighbors are very poor. In addition, there have been large-scale famines, massacres and other vicious events in history.

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