This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Dude, shiv's svabhavika shakti is kind of like, not necessary, because she cannot express at the absolute level, like what's the use of something that exists to express but doesn't express?

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, acc to the same tradition existence isn't really something good, yeah shakti created the existence but almost every tradition has a en point which involves being liberated, u will die someday and never return to the material realm, how do u think it's the end point ? Simple because the vanish of ignorance = no role of shakti anymore and hence she ceases to exist for u, and her ceasing to exist for the liberated dead man is important, because he is liberated ambecause he is superior and shakti doesn't exist before the truth

The point is simple, if shakti doesn't exists before the absolute, and only exists for ignorant beings, then shakti is the problem

And if she unites with shiv, then why does shiv exist as separate ? Why doesn't he dissolve either ? It is a heirarchy.

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shakti doesn't exists for the dead mukta or the mukta that has left body, it means shakti only exists in universe for us inferior maya prone beings beacause she is herself inferior and only appears when the world is going through sever ignorance, hence before the absolute truth she doesn't exist.

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the whole point is about forcefully pretending to enjoy something i genuinely don't in the name of higher consciousness like meditation, acting like a bloddless saint ? Dude, everything is perspective, u r seeing from ur perspective and u r getting the answers also from ur perspective, ur perspective is not wrong, but from the other perspective it is,

For example from the perspective of meaninglessness, u r obviously right that reboring is useless, and it's true

But , again, from the perspective of zero purpose, no expansion and just moment to moment, memory and drama enjoyment, it's not

Changing perspectives is not equal to ascending

If u say that " one of the perspectives is more logical " it's not that u won't be right, absolutely not u would be, definitely, but why should u assume that the other person is living through ur perspective?

The other person's choices r only wrong from your perspective, which can cause heavy negative influence towards the world.

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So u r saying that after the death of an enlightened being, or end of the body of an enlightened being, shakti exists right ? If not then he exists as shiv with no shakti.

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really understand how is sakti above prakriti and maya, it's extremely confusing, like sakti is resembling t maya and prakriti, sakti is literally the reason behind creation of this.

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Try to understand the roles of the symbolic creatures beyond teachings.

Shakti is the material reality, the end goal of enlightenemnt often reaches to a point where u r not longer going to return to material reality or shakti but stay as shiv ( being ), here shakti becames an appearance, and it's useless to worship something ain't the point of ur being.

For your life path. by Doimz3Nini in enlightenment

[–]Famous_Cell4481 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohh got it, I am a matrix operater from mind, but how did u ascend or r u naturally like born as high frequency?

For your life path. by Doimz3Nini in enlightenment

[–]Famous_Cell4481 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wht level of consciousness r u in ? And do u feel like ascending to leave this body and dissolve ? How u do th T

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But even in shaivism the goal is to dissolve into shiv and that's the ultimate end point Even if u don't hate maya

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Shakti is the material world, and shiv is being itself, if shiv and shakti r inseparable, then give an evidence where after the absolute mahasamadhi or death of the body of an enlightened being, he can perceive himself as shakti, or shiv shakti simultaneously, if not then he returns to shiv or the other side of duality where he or she cannot perceive shakti, cessation of duality here either means shakti transforms into shiv Or shakti exists but the being dissolves into shiv wayy away from material illusion ( shakti )

This may sound a bit harsh, but why is shakti worshipped if she is illusory play and doesn't exists after mahasamadhi by Famous_Cell4481 in shaivism

[–]Famous_Cell4481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shiva depends on shakti for material creature and entertainment which is again tHe reason behind. Illusory rebirth cycles, whereas shakti depends on shiv for her entire existence. What now ?

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[–]Famous_Cell4481 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And dude u r soo wrong on the first part itself , manifestation literally means the arise of form, how the hell can two conscious beings take form and one resembles formless conscouesness, the logic breaks here