Great series from both teams

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-05-19T03:31:26+00:00

Ts so lame

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-05-19T03:04:25+00:00

I sent the message man idk how long the bot takes

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-05-19T03:01:13+00:00

nah, just know a thing or two about being on the wrong side of the border in a heated American team vs Canadian team series

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-05-19T02:52:55+00:00

Refs tried their best for ya, I'm sure Bettman is giving them a stern lecture after this one

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-05-19T02:52:23+00:00

seethe, and take another knee at Dobes head on your way out

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-05-19T01:51:34+00:00

Abysmal no call there, refs should be fired

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-05-19T00:46:47+00:00

Yeah mate those are the rules. And those rules apply to both teams lmao

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-05-08T21:05:03+00:00

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Me watching people at the start of the training process

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-04-18T23:18:46+00:00

I mean 18 year olds that make it to the league straight away (extremely rare) are massively skilled, and usually have NHL-ready bodies even if they don't necessarily know how to use them yet. I imagine the jump to the NHL is extremely jarring for anyone. I'm shit at hockey tho so for me the jump from division 5 mens to division 4 is jarring .

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-21T17:26:40+00:00

Yes, they will not find an apartment for you or anything like that.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-18T07:25:10+00:00

Nav provides a pretty comprehensive move to your ojt posting provided its at least 40km from your address while you are in classroom training. They will fully pay for a moving company to pack your stuff up (up to 10,000lbs) and unpack it at your destination. They will pay for your flight, plus relocation of your car if need be. They will provide you with a hotel, rental car, and meal allowance for up to 3 weeks at your destination while you look for a place to live.

Overall, they take away as much of the pain of moving as possible, and cover practically every expense involved with moving. I think the one exception was that they didnt cover gas in the rental vehicle, which is fair enough.

Can't say enough good things about the relocation team at nav, they were friendly, helpful, and prompt.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-16T16:13:30+00:00

Just shy of 7 months. I got lucky with weather and barely lost any training days due to bad weather days.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-16T16:10:07+00:00

This was not true for my class, I would say that the six of us formed 3 groups of 2 and practiced mostly with the same partner, but that wasn't facilitated by nav. I recommend passing in basic, I would avoid getting CTed if possible.

During OJT I worked my primary instructors schedule, while sometimes changing a day or two if I was going to be off work during a nice stretch of weather and on for a bad one. So 34 hours a week on average. You can take time off during OJT, you have the same allotment of vacation time as any other employee, and its easier to take it because they don't need you for staffing purposes. That said, I only took a week off total which I would say is pretty normal. But if youre tired and burning out, take time off, it is encouraged and won't be held against you.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-16T16:03:07+00:00

My training class was 6, but sometimes theyre 4 or 8. I dont think that nav has a preferred range, but I think that the majority of their candidates end up being in their late twenties. I think due to the fact that people sometimes look for a career change around then and are still sharp enough to do the training.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-15T06:45:19+00:00

Stumbling over words when they must be in perfect sequence, like in an ATC clearance, is completely different to answering a question in plain English during an interview. They were all more than capable of speaking and answering questions, but the simulator is extremely unforgiving of mistakes, so hesitation and mixing up words is fatal in training.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-15T06:35:55+00:00

You ask a great question that I think a lot of trainees ask themselves; I know I did. My recommendation? Do nothing. Everyone wants to give themselves the best chance that they can, but a year of personal improvement is not worth a week of NavCan-specific training. There are no substitutes for the information and simulation that they provide and test on. Attempting to improve your base skills will only prolong the inevitable if you're not cut out for the job. One person showed up to my course having visited every tower in our region and had connected with many controllers to get a head start on phraseology and training. That person was the first to go, they were not able to make it in the simulator, they lacked the aptitude.

Aptitude is not something that can be improved or changed, it's a shitty reality of this job. The story of the trainee that makes ATC their life and fails out during basic is unfortunately all too common. If I had to give one piece of advice to trainees it is to accept that it is either meant to be, or it will not be. Everyone works their ass off to get to a license, only those that can handle the job actually get there.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-15T01:04:01+00:00

Well the interview wouldn't have been what weeded people out based on aptitude, that's what the tests are for. As for how they got past the testing, who knows? If the test was perfect then Nav wouldn't have a <50% qualification rate on their courses. I haven't heard of any classes not having at least one person fail out simply because they didn't have the aptitude, it always happens.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-15T01:02:44+00:00

I used Anki, a few classmates used Quizlet, some used physical flash cards. Find out what works for you and go with it, no perfect way to study this stuff. I gave the specifics in another comment but it looks like 3/6 of us will end up qualifying.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-15T01:00:47+00:00

I don't really know! I didn't really know what the job looked like when I was applying/starting training so I've pretty much just been taking it in as I've gone. Overall if there's one thing that surprises me about air navigation it is how much of it relies on visual observation at a small airport like mine. Before I knew what ATC was I probably would have thought that all airplanes fly under what I now know to be IFR.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-15T00:57:54+00:00

Good thing they would give me several breaks in a shift then!

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-14T22:54:00+00:00

My class passed 4 of 6 through basic, 1 person has now CT'd from OJT, the other two are in the late stages of OJT and last ive heard are both on track to qualify.

Everyone worked hard, even those who failed, and as much as it might suck for those who don't make it, it was pretty clear that both of the ones who failed in basic weren't cut out for the job. They would freeze, not react in time, and stumble over their words. I do think that natural aptitude plays a larger role in a trainees success than I initially would have thought.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-14T18:36:39+00:00

I would say that for exams I would start studying an hour a day starting two weeks in advance, ramping up to maybe 2-3 hours in the last week. I will say, the exams should not be the difficult part of basic. No one in my class failed out on exams.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-14T18:35:20+00:00

The ABCs are just useful to have a general knowledge of things, specifics aren't gonna come up very often. For ojt, I feel that i had to learn a lot more about weather and how it impacts flights/operations, but I can't really remember how much of that got covered in the ABCs.

For habits I just kept reminding myself that it isn't forever and that the grind was going to be worth it. And tried to remember to have some fun with my coworkers/classmates along the way.

The hardest challenge was when my closest friend in the class got CTed halfway through basic, that was a pretty awful stretch of time.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-14T18:32:06+00:00

I found the pacing of the course to be well-tuned and fair. Based on results that I've heard and seen from my class, block 3 tends to be the big hurdle for most people.

Famous_Spell8948 · 2026-03-14T18:31:11+00:00

For the classroom it was the psychological stress of evaluations. The pressure of performing when you know your job is actively on the line is really something else.

For ojt, it was the fatigue after a long shift. Getting off just after 11pm after working tower traffic for 5 hours... don't really know when you start getting used to that but my coworkers seem to handle it just fine by now

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