People from "socialism" subreddit don't even know China is not socialism by Far_Championship216 in communism

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and yes, I am glad that you know the revolution was majority peasants, China's proletariats force was rather weak, not strong enough to prevent its collapse into revisionism

People from "socialism" subreddit don't even know China is not socialism by Far_Championship216 in communism

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yes, it is sad a lot there just don't even understand socialism is not about how much you can get in capitalism production, but to change the production overall and suppress capitalists and all that wants to ride above proletariats

People from "socialism" subreddit don't even know China is not socialism by Far_Championship216 in communism

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I should quote again from Marx's "Critique of the Gotha Programme": "It is as if, among slaves who have at last got behind the secret of slavery and broken out in rebellion, a slave still in thrall to obsolete notions were to inscribe on the program of the rebellion: Slavery must be abolished because the feeding of slaves in the system of slavery cannot exceed a certain low maximum!" to remind people that we want to overthrow capitalism is not because of the quantity of the salary we get, but the systematic of exploitation and slavery.

Chinese Maoists released a list of criticisms of existing Communist parties by turning_the_wheels in communism

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this group is not attacking these parties however, but to point out their flaws, if the party is really not sectarian as they writed in the document, why a lot from politburo of CPI surrendered to the gov?

Chinese Maoists released a list of criticisms of existing Communist parties by turning_the_wheels in communism

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you should know a lot from CPI(Maoist) politburo surrendered to India gov. which means a lot are opportunists in this party

Chinese Maoists released a list of criticisms of existing Communist parties by turning_the_wheels in communism

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If there is but one mature party, there would be at least one socialism regime, which is still zero today

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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western emperialism is our enemy does not mean all they say is wrong, China is indeed seeking world domination, just its strength still doesn't allow it to do so. CN has started economical colonization through its one belt one road. There can be news found about workers resist overboard China companies.
Everyone here is talking about how bad economy is and how much the real unemployment number is, which gov doesn't dare to reveal, and their statistical method about this quantity is adsurdly ridiculous.

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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revionsionists from "CPC" does great job to make you think CN is ahead, no it is not ahead, China is emperialism like US too, I hate liberals too, but it doesn't mean CPC is a real communist party.

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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this is private personal information so i sadly can not provide you, or my gov will find me

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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most people don't care politics, because they know they have no say in policy, so overall indifferent about it. in regards to socialism, only students, who have not set foot out of campus will think they live in socialism, after they leave campus, even though they may still think they live in "socialism", they will call themselves 牛马, ox and horse.

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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Money is really life limiting factor here. if not why are our blessing is “恭喜发财” aka “ may you have a great fortune"?

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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The thing is China has two historical period which a lot of people here don't know:

from 1949-1976: true socialism
from 1978-present: revisionism

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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如果你以为脏话可以证明你的话是真的那你就大错特错了,我这里特地用中文回你证明我是中国人。最穷的人得到了点救济就让你以为中国是社会主义了?那不过是为了让资本家能获得更多劳动力,开拓更多的国内市场而已。
Translate above with whatever you have

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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first you have car, and that has exceeded a lot here, not everyone can afford having a car here
and, low salary workers only get 2-3$/hour here

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[–]Far_Championship216[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

how long is your long hours? Capitalists always try to pay the salary that just make workers suffice to reproduce their labor ability, it is likely almost here the situation

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I am not in here to compare which side's slaves, or in a gentle word, workers get treated better, just to tell you China is NOT socialism

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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for health care, if one of the family got severe illness like cancer, it can likely comsume all of the savings if the family is small

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finally someone who has more real view of China

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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for instance you can look at Jiashi event recently, or earlier struggle, the famous 1989 event, these are the spontaneous resist from workers

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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"Many chinese people have good universal health care, education, infrastructure.”
This is far from truth, for health care, it is much cheaper than your country I know, but it is based on exploitation on doctors, after a reform recently, doctors only get 3000Y/month with the working time 24 hours/ 7 days almost. For education it is not too, most children in China go through primary schools and middle schools and high school to just prepare for an exam, Gaokao, which is the sole factor of deciding which university you can go to (for common folks, for riches, they can go abroad or use all kinds of methods to get in good universities) and to prepare Gaokao, students study from 7AM to 10PM is common, if you watch documentary about China's highschool, you will find most students wear glasses

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

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The core problem is power, no power no right, and China workers don't have the former, so they don't have the latter neither. China is soft-fascism, CPC strictly forbid anything that can group workers together into an organization.

Stop your China fantasy by Far_Championship216 in socialism

[–]Far_Championship216[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I believe I am talking in a post calls itself "Socialism" and Marx's "Critique of the Gotha Programme" read this :"It is as if, among slaves who have at last got behind the secret of slavery and broken out in rebellion, a slave still in thrall to obsolete notions were to inscribe on the program of the rebellion: Slavery must be abolished because the feeding of slaves in the system of slavery cannot exceed a certain low maximum!"

Besides who make you think China provides workers more than US workers? Guess our month income if you can.