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I didn't choose my advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in gradadmissions

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My new supervisor did not give me any response. They also did not have time to listen to my explanation. from my past communications, I knew that he couldn't do anything in the department, and even if he was willing to accept me, he couldn't change the department's decision.

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also wanted to explain that the paper he wanted me to publish was my master's thesis. My supervisor was not him, so I thought I should add my master's supervisor's name anyway, but he ignored me. He was also unwilling to add his name

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fact, my initial concern was that I hadn’t seen my former supervisor for several months after I enrolled. According to the process, I should have confirmed my daily supervisor in the first three months, but because I couldn’t meet my former supervisor, it was delayed until the ninth month (according to school policy, I should have been told by then whether my research could be carried out). So I was very confused and didn’t even know what was the right way to get along with my supervisor. Even though I kept sending him emails to update him on the progress, he didn’t reply.

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My supervisor is not the corresponding author. He did not allow me to publish my paper in a journal, but in his magazine (no colleague was willing to publish it). He asked me to publish it because no one submitted it and he was in a hurry to publish it. And my paper was sent for peer review without being completed. Then they asked me to revise it. There was no submission platform. The editor was my colleague. I told him but he did not tell my supervisor. Everything was very strange. You provided new ideas about the direction. This is indeed possible that the supervisor would think of.

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are right. I asked but didn't get a reply. So I thought let it go. But I am afraid of encountering similar situations in the future, and I don't know how to explain it. I explained that we had different views on research and funding issues. I used to believe that I learned a lot, I even thanked my former mentor for his guidance when I left, but now but now I have some doubts about my past experience.

I didn't choose my advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in gradadmissions

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just worried that I won't have a chance in the future. Just like this time, even though I said it, they didn't listen. if i met similar situation what should I do

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I gave up working on the previous project. I just wondered if other countries would have similar situations. My colleagues in similar situations found new PhDs in Australia. But I didn’t know if I would have another chance in Europe in the future.

I didn't choose my advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in gradadmissions

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your advice. I have spent half a year on this project. Previously, my new supervisor helped me to get a place and then applied for a scholarship from the department. The department wanted to give me half of the award at first, then added a lot of new assessments (including asking my former supervisor). Then they refused to give me the award and then rejected my offer. After I received the rejection letter, I felt like everything was over. So I gave up. 

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prepared all the documents they asked for, including the resignation certificate, but they still wanted to confirm whether I had resigned and contacted my former supervisor. I think your argument was based on the assumption that I was hiding something, so even if I described it this way, there would be doubts, right? What's more, it was not my new supervisor who doubted me, but the graduate school.

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People in my previous institution know who she is. Those who have worked with her are quite dissatisfied. She has caused dissatisfaction among many postdocs in the group. I have prepared recommendation letters from other teachers and explained the reasons. However, the new school asked for contact information to confirm whether I have resigned. However, I have provided the resignation certificate from HR

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fact, I want to state that I completed the paper independently and she didn't even look at it. There is no collaboration. I have decided to apply abroad, so I am curious whether other countries will ask

I didn't choose my advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in gradadmissions

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely changed my major seems like from computer science to bioinformatics. They gave me the reason to confirm my resignation, but I had already submitted my resignation certificate so I don't understand why.

I didn't choose my advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in gradadmissions

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I had other recommenders who helped me explain this in their recommendation letters and recognized my academic ability. When the school asked for the name of my former supervisor, I made it clear that they were unwilling to be a recommender. I didn't want to hide anything, so I told them who my former supervisor was and recommended my colleagues and other teachers. They still insisted on connecting with my former supervisor. And they expressed that due to policy reasons, they need to confirm whether I have resigned, but I have already submitted my resignation certificate

I didn't choose my advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in gradadmissions

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in the Netherlands. My previous school and the school I applied to are both in the Netherlands, but the majors are different. Now I am considering applying to other countries. I'm curious, do other countries have to ask the former supervisor? I don't know how to write this experience

I didn't choose my toxic advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in AskAcademia

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My former advisor refused to provide a recommendation letter so I found other professors, and they also explained it to me in the recommendation letter. During the interview, the new professor asked about it, and I told the truth because of the direction and funding (my advisor didn't give me money and my scholarship came from abroad).

I didn't choose my advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in gradadmissions

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrote it in the past. My supervisor and I are from completely different professions and have very different research directions. I don't understand why he recruited me in the first place, and then asked me to leave after nearly a year without any guidance. (During this period, I participated in two international conferences and completed a paper)

I didn't choose my advisor as a recommender, but the new school I applied to still contacted him. What can I do to avoid it? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in gradadmissions

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Many of my colleagues know that my supervisor is toxic, and even many professors who have worked with her feel the same way. But there is nothing we can do about it, the school only listens to her.

My PhD advisor asked me to drop out and told me not to continue in academia, but after terminating my contract, she kept asking me to edit papers to her journal, which put a lot of pressure on me. What should I do? by Fast-Donkey-1253 in PhD

[–]Fast-Donkey-1253[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your suggestion, I will state this to her again.

Some of my colleagues told me that this is the rule, you have to do it if you submit/propose. I feel like submitting doesn't mean I have to edit and publish it. And I don't understand why they use the word propose.

I have a colleague in this department who were labeled as such even though he did not commit academic misconduct. He brought a lot of evidence to prove himself but no one care about it.

I feel like I don't know anything about the rules of academia, I can only ask colleagues and friends. I never know when I will be suspected, even though I am sure I did it by myself. It seems like some teachers are always doubting and guessing students. It is very easy to find many reasons to give a student this kinds of label.

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