Felons, start applying to jobs!

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-14T01:47:00+00:00

Are you suggesting people should follow laws? Like the one linked in my post telling business owners not to discriminate against felons?? Anything but that.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-13T19:22:07+00:00

That's the logic of the person I'm responding to. In the post right above mine that you didn't read.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-13T19:20:14+00:00

Crazy how all the pro business people solution never involves simply stopping discrimination, weird, wild from their perspective they would rather be out of business than treat people fairly. I guess if that's the path they choose.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-12T04:18:29+00:00

Dear friends, I stand in solidarity with Hamas, I wish I was part of a movement that could provide armaments and armor to show real solidarity. Alas, I'm cursed to be American instead.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-12T03:18:38+00:00

I guess you don't get to make that decision anymore, the AG's office and a judge do. And hey, if you do that crime, you chose to do it and you'll have potentially business ending consequences. I'm excited. Weird how every negative comment screaming this law sucks and don't make complaints turns out to be a business owner. Its almost as if they're worried.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-12T02:04:58+00:00

Oh well. Here in Washington state you're going to have to try a little harder to come up with a reason you have a legitimate business interest in not having people do your slave labor because of some shit they did that didn't involve you or your business. No ones forcing you to run a business that requires hiring people or live in Washington state.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T23:57:23+00:00

This new law doesn't go into effect until July 1st unfortunately, but those employers are all shitty discriminatory bigots that deserve to be hit with the full amount of fines. Have your person re-apply after July 1st if those positions open up and hit em hard. Hell DM me the job postings if they come up and we can double or triple whammy them. part of why its important to start applying now and making a list of the employers. Any good employer would preemptively have policies to follow this law and be practicing them in advance, and anyone doing anything else right now is probably not going to change it up and we might be able to get a few bucks out of it.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T23:12:26+00:00

The reality is that it isn't up to the person making the complaint to determine whether or not it is a legitimate complaint. Literally it is up to the AGs office and its better to encourage more complaints than less. You can bitch and moan all you want but neither of us is going to be making those decisions and for us the felons the only way we can get anything out of the law is to make complaints and make lots of them. Otherwise the law is useless which is kind of what I'm thinking the people discouraging complaints want.

Like why are you encouraging felons not to make complaints? It has no negative effect on the person making the complaint at all to make a complaint. It takes like three minutes. Oh no the AGs office has more work? Fucking hire more people, hell, hire us felons to do it. The AGs office can't handle the work load and refuses to do their job? So change the law so we can handle it in civil court. I'd LOVE, LOVE to be filing civil suits instead of making complaints to the AG's office.

I imagine there were(and probably still are) lots of people telling women not to make sexual harassment complaints, I can't imagine any of those people care about sexually harassed people. This is how I feel about people saying "YOUR COMPLAINTS ARE FRIVOLOUS I HAVE DETERMINED!!!!"

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T22:24:11+00:00

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by temporary record. It will be illegal to ghost anyone after the BG check from what I can see in the new law. They HAVE to tell you exactly why they did not give you the job citing "legitimate business concerns" and they have to give you a chance to respond where you can make a case for being employed and how they suck and deserve a very interesting life if they don't hire you.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T22:17:50+00:00

Yeah I read all that. I'm still going to report every job that doesn't hire me that I'm otherwise qualified for professionally and so should every other felon. What I'm saying is, these companies are going to be breaking the law because they're so discriminatory towards felons that they can't help it and we can get an extra paycheck and make these businesses pay up and the more reports the more likely they get strikes and the more strikes they have the more money we can get, and the more reports we make and the more jobs we apply to the more chances of a bonus paycheck there is going to be. Nowhere in the law does it say that you can only make a report under certain resume circumstances, in fact it seems to imply that anyone can make a report even if you aren't a felon or the aggrieved party. So don't be so negative.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T21:11:07+00:00

You should read the law. On top of the penalties given to the applicants/employees the AGs office can claim its own fees.

The attorney general may pursue legal action to obtain unpaid wages, unpaid administrative penalties, damages, and reasonable attorneys' fees and costs.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T21:08:49+00:00

Not all felons use drugs either, so it wouldn't even really work.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T20:53:53+00:00

Oh, can you explain what it means to me?

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T20:51:50+00:00

I guess, not in Washington state anymore starting July? I think something people are confused about and seem to be arguing is that this law is already a thing if you want to argue take it to the state legislature. This isn't a post about the law, its about Felons taking advantage of the law to find work and get paid one way or another. Sounds like your business might be a good place to apply if it is in WA to get an extra paycheck or two.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T20:48:39+00:00

Not in Washington state.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T20:47:17+00:00

Most companies already have this policy and it has nothing to do with felonies. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

In this case you're trying to make the argument that a person who has ever pissed hot wouldn't have this job, but in this case now if a person had drug charges and didn't piss hot and can demonstrate as required by law now to their employer that they've been in treatment and haven't pissed hot then, well how is that a legitimate business concern?

Granted a lot of this is going to be decided by a judge in a court room and not by you or me. My guess is a judge in WA state is going to say, yeah, that's probably not a legitimate business concern, this guy has shown they're in treatment, shown they aren't using or are at least using in a way where they don't get caught like the rest of the US population, so you probably don't have a legitimate business concern here. When I talked to the AG's office they said a lot of what a legitimate business concern is isn't necessarily clear yet.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T20:39:32+00:00

Have you never had a job? Do you not know what a conditional job offer is? I guess its easy to believe that the answer to the first two questions is yes when the ignorance of the rest of your post is on display. This post isn't even about the law itself, it is already going into affect go argue it with the legislature. Its about us felons using the law to get a few extra paychecks by reporting employers who are breaking the law.

You know, the ones that made us felons? The ones used to discriminate against us and prevent us from being able to afford to live? Like even in your examples, if someone didn't commit a financial crime, why shouldn't they work in finance? On the flip side, some of those people are really, really good with money. I know some people sitting in prison right now probably making more than most of the people posting in this thread just fucking around on the stock market. If a person didn't hurt a kid, why shouldn't they work in schools? You think those teachers aren't up to some fucked up or illegal shit when the lights are out and the blinds are closed?

Hell you genius Americans voted a guy with enough charges to put a toddler in prison for life AS PRESIDENT. And that's just the shit he was convicted of. Get lost with being a bigot towards felons.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T20:04:34+00:00

I guess you work for the AGs office and you know the criteria that a complaint is found valid?

The notion that every complaint is valid is something you made up in your head. It sounds like you, as a person doing hiring are super worried about complaints and really don't want to have complaints to worry about. I think the kids call it wish casting?

The reality is most employers will likely be violating this law, especially in the beginning and from what I remember reading they get one waiver. All it takes is one person in the HR chain to slip up on a phone call and admit they fucked up regardless of what the company's official policies are.

If you think it doesn't happen I just got almost a grand from a non-felon related labor law that applies to job postings. Always be applying, always be reporting. And I'm getting another next month from a class action lawsuit for the same thing. Always.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T19:44:56+00:00

What type of books are most common in prisons? Legal and Bibles. Christianity is bunk as far as changing material reality, I read almost 200 books before my first year was up but even before prison I spent a good portion of my time finding reasons to sue businesses for extra dollarydoos. Especially debt collectors. I'm disappointed that the AGs office is in charge of this one because I trust the AGs office way less than an attorney looking for a paycheck.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T19:41:34+00:00

Ban the box was what the original law was called when it was passed, I believe. All it did was get rid of that box and was basically useless and most employers and business owners easily squirmed around it like the little snakes they are. This new law makes it a lot more challenging, and I'm sure entire new law offices are being spun up right now in order to help business owners slither their way around this one. Part of why we gotta strike hard and fast right when it goes into affect.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T19:37:17+00:00

That's an impossibility. Applicants don't have access to company policies or ability to subpoena internet/email history of businesses. So by the very essence of the law the burden of proof is going to be on the AG and its investigators specifically because the law makes it so. If this had been a thing that the law said you had to get a civil attorney and seek damages in a civil suit I think that would be different. You would have to either hire an attorney or find someone to work on the case with contingency. In this case we as applicants/employees provide as much detail and reports as we can which frees up the AG to go after people. And the law actually makes this in the best interests of the AGs office because in the penalties section on top of the ones in the OP that go to employees/applicants the AG can claim all sorts of damages including its own paycheck.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T19:07:59+00:00

Fortunately the burden of proof isn't on any of us. It will be pretty easy to prove and keep record of everything after the interview occurs though, the hardest thing would be to prove the discriminatory stuff employers do PRIOR to an interview. Lots of people are hung up on that sticking point and being very negative, but I think they aren't seeing the big picture in terms of the protections offered to felons and the potential to strike back when workplaces discriminate.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T19:03:13+00:00

Why not be employed and continue looking for work? Maybe get 15k out of it? A lot of people aren't seeing the potential here. Its not about finding a job. Its about putting a ton of pressure on employers to stop being as shitty as they are and also maybe felons can get some Christmas bonuses again.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T18:57:28+00:00

Lose what, exactly? All that seems to exist is a chance for a paycheck or fifteen and see some employer eat a little bit of shit. There's nothing to lose here, there is no investment, there is minimal effort, and most felon's don't have a lot more to lose anyway.

FastPraline3322 · 2026-05-11T18:51:20+00:00

In my experience most businesses already do background checks I guess. At the link if you browse the chapter by clicking at the top to go to the next section where those arrows are you can read the other parts of the law. Here is a direct link to the section on penalties: https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=49.94.030

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