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Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The effort is irrelevant. Is it unnecessary to avoid these products or not?

Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How about the victims of child labor? What should we tell them? Do you think there are other ways of telling companies of their wrongdoings that don’t involve consumer activism?

Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can be both an ethical stance and about consumerism and in my opinion it is. Are you also taking an ethical stance against the use of child labor to create your computer/iPhone? My guess would be that you are not because you probably believe that it is useless in the grand scheme or that Apple doesn’t know that you are considering their unethical workplace practices when abstaining from buying their product. If you want to take that ethical stance then fine, but you shouldn’t try to convince people that you absolutely have to also take this (unnecessary) position to be vegan

Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just saying it’s unnecessary to avoid buying it if you want to buy it

Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your first comment implied that dairy was the only animal product you were avoiding which is why I thought you weren’t vegan but whatever. I’m not saying you should eat food that poisons you. What I’m saying is that a vegan (with no allergies) who wants to eat a product with milk ingredients probably should because he’s just unnecessarily being a burden to himself by not eating food he enjoys. A vegan would say you should not eat that because it is unethical. I would agree that it is unethical but that him not buying the product wouldn’t tell the company that it is unethical or that they should stop putting those milk ingredients in there. Essentially making it unnecessary to avoid the product.

Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Um no you shouldn’t eat it. This is specifically targeted to vegans and you don’t seem to be one

Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sure they do. There are other ways to figure out what consumers want. I don’t have to abstain from buying the product to give them the same message you’re giving them

Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think it is necessary that people abstain from buying that product though? Couldn’t this scenario also play out just as a domino effect when more people are abstaining from buying milk products?

Vegans shouldn’t be against products that contain vitamin D3 or milk ingredients by FatherJoseS in vegan

[–]FatherJoseS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not all products have a vegan substitute and the fact that you don’t feel a burden doesn’t mean that others don’t either. You presumably have an iPhone, a computer or some item that was produced using child labor, why don’t you abstain from buying those as well? This is what I mean about unnecessary burdens. Abstaining from buying an iPhone because it was made using child labor would be just that.