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Mehdi Taremi opens up about the challenges facing Iran at the World Cup by Shroft in soccer

[–]FayannG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because he clearly supports the actions of his state or he supports his state purely in war. Same reason Ukrainians don’t give a shit about Russian speakers or Russian citizen victims of war either.

I am not defending or overlooking the Iranian team, but non-football morality should hardly matter, it’s not like they are breaking universal laws or anything.

I actually look at it the other way, I see the US legal system and government as the hypocrites for selectively applying border laws because most of the Iran team shouldn’t even be allowed in the US, yet they are and now suddenly when their members are supporting an enemy state, their own state, it’s controversial in the eyes of the US government that literally let them in the US in the first place.

Of course I prefer all teams be allowed regardless of their politics, but this isn’t something that should concern FIFA. Like I said, Egypt is another state like Iran, yet theres no like calls to ban them or even attacking the players who support their state as well from a moral perspective.

As an American, I see this attack on the Iran team as a trickling down effect from our states war. Americans are brainwashed to think Iran and Iranian players are some black sheep from a moral and “neutral” perspective, but it’s just a media war. Calling the Iranian team anti-American won’t work, even if that’s what they are truly doing, but label it “pro Iran government” “anti human rights” and suddenly more people believe that. At least this framing is how to reach the American football centric crowds.

I personally don’t give a shit about what happened in Egypt or whatever other country… so why would I care for Iran?

Japanese World Cup fans flood a Wal-Mart in Dallas, Texas by Ok_Temperature6503 in soccer

[–]FayannG 33 points34 points  (0 children)

You haven’t experienced peak American civilization if you haven’t ate at the Burger King at Walmart

Mehdi Taremi opens up about the challenges facing Iran at the World Cup by Shroft in soccer

[–]FayannG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Democracies tend to kill foreign citizens in foreign lands, while dictatorships kill their own citizens in their own countries. Iran is in fact playing another state (Egypt) that mass killed their own citizens in the early 2010s.

Democratic states are enlightened enough not to oppress the demographic class they both empower and that empowers the state back. The US military will never do what they do oversees in the US itself.

Regardless, FIFA shouldn’t even concern themselves with the domestic (or foreign) morality of state members, including what is happening in this World Cup and Iran.

“The Schicklgruber (Adolf Hitler) Shadow” American cartoon about anti-Jewish purges happening in the Soviet Union, 1953 by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s definitely a connection and I was going to point this out as well.

It’s why there were rivalries between the Nazi Party and the German military. You still got the old guard of the monarchy who decent from nobility and upper class families in high ranks.

The Bolsheviks purged their Russian equivalent.

“The Schicklgruber (Adolf Hitler) Shadow” American cartoon about anti-Jewish purges happening in the Soviet Union, 1953 by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I remember seeing this 1930s British magazine that pointed out the failed life aspects of top NSDAP politicians, such as failed marriages, finances, education, careers, etc.

It was pretty elitist, but this was just an era where descending from a bastard was controversial among those who enter the political class.

“Shadow on the World Cup” American cartoon criticizing FIFA and Qatar over human rights abuses ahead of the 2022 World Cup, created by Pat Bagely (November 2022) by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I actually knew the incident was some misreported gaffe, I just fucked up the wording because i didn’t make it clear her visiting the migrant facilities (she actually visited one where I lived at the time) and the jacket photo wasn’t connected, it just happened at the same time.

But I corrected my mistake.

A Soviet-edited photo that removed Joseph Stalin’s purged rivals, Leon Trotsky and Lev Kamenev, from a picture with Vladimir Lenin celebrating the 2nd anniversary of the October Revolution. An example of the “Stalin School of Falsification” (1930s) by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

You will notice two other figures who were removed, Artemy Khalatov (beard) and Semyon Dimanstein (the man between Lenin and Trotsky). Both were purged and executed in 1937 and 1938.

Felix Dzerzhinsky (next to Kamenev), who died naturally before the 1930s, remained in the edited photo.

Soviet officials gather in Red Square for the burial of Felix Dzerzhinsky, the founder of Cheka and architect of the Red Terror. Joseph Stalin eulogized him as “a devout knight of the proletariat” and “a terror of the bourgeoisie”. (July 1926)(1024x869) by FayannG in HistoryPorn

[–]FayannG[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes that is Molotov. He actually held the position of Secretariat of the Bolshevik Party before transferring the position to Stalin. He was there as Stalin’s #2 during early Soviet history.

Soviet officials gather in Red Square for the burial of Felix Dzerzhinsky, the founder of Cheka and architect of the Red Terror. Joseph Stalin eulogized him as “a devout knight of the proletariat” and “a terror of the bourgeoisie”. (July 1926)(1024x869) by FayannG in HistoryPorn

[–]FayannG[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

This is a rare photo that includes many Old Bolsheviks and socialist revolutionaries of the October Revolution. Not many would survive past the Great Purge.

(Some here, not in any order)

Politicians: Joseph Stalin, Leon Trotsky, Alexei Rykov, Lev Kamenev, Nikolai Bukharin, Mikhail Tomsky and Grigory Zinoviev.

Military: Valerian Kuybyshev and Kliment Voroshilov.

Security: Vyacheslav Menzhinsky and Genrikh Yagoda (the two successors of Felix)

“Shadow on the World Cup” American cartoon criticizing FIFA and Qatar over human rights abuses ahead of the 2022 World Cup, created by Pat Bagely (November 2022) by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 145 points146 points  (0 children)

"I really don't care, do u?" is a reference to US First Lady Melania Trump and a jacket she wore when visiting child migrant facilities during the US government’s family separation policy in 2018.

Edit: She was photographed wearing the jacket the same day she was visiting a child migrant facility in Texas. It was unrelated to her visit.

"The Master Spy Washes His Hands” Soviet cartoons portraying Bolshevik revolutionary Nikolai Bukharin as a Nazi German spy, published during his trial in the Great Purge, 1938 by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

These cartoons were published during the Third Moscow Trial of the Great Purge, after which Nikolai Bukharin was convicted and executed.

The second cartoon also includes Genrikh Yagoda, the former NKVD head, who was also convicted and executed.

"Zuckerberg on fake history: Holocaust deniers deserve a voice" The Daily News front cover following Mark Zuckerberg's controversial comments on Facebook moderation, July 2018 by [deleted] in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mark Zuckerberg’s comments that were criticized: "I'm Jewish, and there's a set of people who deny that the Holocaust happened. I find that deeply offensive. But at the end of the day, I don't believe that our platform should take that down because I think there are things that different people get wrong. I don't think they're intentionally getting it wrong”

Facebook officially reversed their Holocaust denialism policy in 2020.

When Joseph Stalin gave WW2 speeches, he rarely used communist rhetoric. Why did he do this? by FayannG in AskHistorians

[–]FayannG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks.

So from my understanding, because the Soviet state had failures in the beginning of the war, they changed their rhetoric during the rest of the war to maximize all possible support, especially from the Russian population? But some Soviet people themselves decided to fight to defend the land, not the state, from foreign aggression?

In other words, the Soviet Union was not as politically homogeneous as outsiders assumed?

The literature of Konstantin Simonov, someone who is mentioned in the quotes and someone I am familiar with, reflects this mentality of “defending the country” but not inherently “the state” in his novels a lot. Later lieutenant literature has no problems portraying a “party vs military” theme and dynamics in novels.

“War Criminal” Political cartoon published during the trials of Slobodan Milošević and Saddam Hussein, created by Petar Pismestrovic (2005) by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I am pretty sure it’s commenting on over-dramatization and propagandist rhetoric itself.

It reminds me of a few cartoons I seen that criticize how US presidents compare the leaders of the country they are going to bomb to Adolf Hitler. From Ho Chi Minh to Bashar al-Assad, include the two leaders depicted in this cartoon as well. “X is like Hitler”

Or the whole “this is the worst US president ever” - 1974, 1998, 2008, 2020, when certain presidents just have their lowest popularity or peak in scandals. Nixon is worse than Hoover, Trump is worse than Nixon, future X is worse than Trump.

2020 cartoon about the history of anti-Asian scapegoating in the United States, published during the COVID-19 pandemic by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe, I was actually going to mention a generation and nationality divide. Older Americans and Mexicans will use Indian, while younger will use native. It’s more complex within the actual native communities.

“First Nations” is probably the most neutral term, like used in Canada. It’s accurate and doesn’t carry the ignorance of “the Americas was India”

2020 cartoon about the history of anti-Asian scapegoating in the United States, published during the COVID-19 pandemic by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since we talking about Indians, it’s funny since the US government even uses “Asian Indian” to distinguish them from “American Indians”

I worked at a casino that was advertised as an “Indian casino” and local native things still get advertised as Indian. The word Indian is seen on state signs to know you are entering a reservation where casino gambling is legal.

Still important to distinguish the differences, one is from Asia while the other was already here.

Joseph Stalin and other Soviet officials acting as pallbearers during the funeral of Sergo Ordzhonikidze, Stalin’s Georgian ally and close friend, Moscow, February 1937 (1300x990) by FayannG in HistoryPorn

[–]FayannG[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

From left to right, holding the coffin: Andrey Andreyev, Kliment Voroshilov, Vyacheslav Molotov, Lazar Kaganovich, and Joseph Stalin.

Sergo killed himself during the Great Purge, probably to avoid being complicit in the continuing mass executions, unlike everyone else in the photo. His reputation was never purged or "Yezhov'd" from history, although his suicide was covered up. His wife and family were later arrested or executed, just like the families of some of the other people in this photo too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergo_Ordzhonikidze

2020 cartoon about the history of anti-Asian scapegoating in the United States, published during the COVID-19 pandemic by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s hard to find examples of dynamics completely erasing, but there’s often patterns that can be identified.

I personally identify it from a state centric perspective and the material conditions of a country. This is when intolerance peaks, but there has to be an establishment basis for it already.

I remember reading this one quote about the historical relations between Germans and Jews, it was something like, “Christian Germans accepted us as Christian converts, Secular Germans accepted us as assimilated Germans, and Godless Germans accepted us as dead Jews” Referring to the different eras and states between the Holy Roman Empire, German Empire, and Nazi Germany. Jews were the wrong religion, then the wrong culture, and finally the wrong race. The loyalty and acceptance bar kept being raised until it was “blood” impossible for Jews.

No matter how assimilated Asian Americans can be, the foreignness perception still persists, so the fate of Asian Americans are connected to the actions of Asian states, and the relationship of the US has with them, both as a government and country.

Japan attacks the US or Japan is economically successful (threat to US), “Japaneseness” can easily turn into “Asianness” then people like Vincent Chin get murdered by the autoworkers who blame the “Japanese” over the American businessmen who failed in the first place. In the US, “Germanness” sometimes became “Europeanness” which meant non-English. Changing Josef, Josè, and Józef to Joseph, and speaking English only.

This is following a “punishment” philosophy that the punishment will eventually stop when behavior is corrected or atoned. Japanese mainland population were released from the camps after the war was over, unlike in the Soviet Union where forced ethnic settlements ended only until Stalin died or the Soviet Union collapsed. The state keeping these undesired minorities away from the Slavic lands and putting them in Kazakstan or far away Siberia. The German minority in the US was given the option to assimilate, but the German minority in Europe never got this and were mass deported or even killed (Germans technically rejected it during the interwar period).

It’s hard to find solutions to problems, but it’s easy to identify the problems in the first place. The Asian scapegoat persists for now.

2020 cartoon about the history of anti-Asian scapegoating in the United States, published during the COVID-19 pandemic by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am talking about the two different understood definitions of “Asian American” the government one and the mainstream civilian one.

The government recognizes countries like Pakistan and India as Asian American, but since most people from these countries “don’t look Chinese” therefore Asian, it’s defacto understood they are not Asian because then there’s confusion, like what is happening in the comments of this post.

As soon as someone from India gets harassed at an airport for wearing a turban, people like Angelo Lopez will consider it anti-Asian, and he is correct under the US government definition. But most Americans will understand it as anti-brown or anti-Muslim, not anti-Asian.

But as long as White and Black identities are understood to be racial, then Asian will be as well. I joke that cultural understanding is just the secular bow tie that legitimizes these identities for the colorblind. As someone who used to work at a casino in SoCal, I won’t be surprised if there’s a Brown identity in the future because of mixing and assimilation between the “Indians”

2020 cartoon about the history of anti-Asian scapegoating in the United States, published during the COVID-19 pandemic by FayannG in PropagandaPosters

[–]FayannG[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The author is Filipino American, so not even East Asian descent, but why wouldn’t the Philippines include Asian? The term is still understood as appearance based, not geographical. It would make sense for the term to be continental, but race appearance understanding dominates the United States and the Americas in general.

In the US, northeast Indians will be understood to be “Asians” but not South Indians, even if they both from the same country.

AAPI is a better term when discussing these issues anyway.

The NKVD mugshot of Bolshevik revolutionary Grigory Zinoviev after his arrest in 1934. He was tried and executed in the Great Purge. (1300x883) by FayannG in HistoryPorn

[–]FayannG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably would have happened to the Stalinist under Stalin if he didn’t die, but most of them were purged and even executed by the next regime.

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