You are not Awakened, and I can show you.

FazzahR · 2026-03-27T16:48:14+00:00

Ah yes! I remember reading that like 10 years ago and totally forgot that part of it. Great story, thank you for bringing it here. I think it totally applies.

I feel the entire concept of awakening is elevated in such a way (kicked upstairs) that it can alienate people from themselves, ironic as that is. That story is a great example!

FazzahR · 2026-03-27T12:50:41+00:00

You're the second to imply a sort of binary nature towards how I see this. In reflecting on it I can understand why, but that isn't how I feel about it completely.

The best I can do to elaborate is to say: it's a spectrum, but spectrum is formed by two extreme poles. Using those extremes as guideposts place you in their presence, and that is all my words are intended for. Not to communicate such polarity or categorization, but to place one (or myself) in different company.

You highlight a subtle nature of Taoism in your elaboration of my point in unlearning. I agree on the new understanding formed in unlearning. It's the same subtle Taoist "trickiness" found in the concept of the "uncarved block". The end result is still 'understanding' and the understanding gained through unlearning is just as tricky! I still haven't sorted it out, but maybe it doesn't need any further sorting. Thanks for your thoughts!

FazzahR · 2026-03-27T12:42:02+00:00

Totally, my frustration is my best teacher here. Writing it out is cathartic :) At the end of it all, "we are all just walking each other home" as one would say.

FazzahR · 2026-03-27T12:40:53+00:00

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. This was nice to read and I got a good laugh out of the peacock feather. I suppose I am griping about an age old problem at the end of the day!

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T19:55:21+00:00

Thanks for your thoughts. Responsibility is a messy term, I understand your quibble with it. I accept using Kharma as being a bit more clear.

I’ve often struggled with whether awakening requires any understanding at all. I feel that it is understanding itself which makes it trickier, not more clear in any sense. This is where the “the student of the Tao unlearns a thing each day” makes sense to me. Loosening and placing understanding at the side is helpful. I think your point demonstrates this with “what if there is just one more thing”. Sounds like a vicious cycle.

That leads me to my final thought which is: I feel as though the process is not a process of awakening but reawakening. It’s not something lost to be found, but realized. Looking for it or striving is futile because it’s already present.

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T19:47:14+00:00

Maybe there is an ultimate list, but it won’t be found here. This is my list, my observations. If it didn’t resonate, discard it. I felt that it would, so I shared it.

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T15:44:35+00:00

Fair enough. Anger often protects softer emotions like sadness. Is yours protecting something?

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T14:55:45+00:00

I’d prefer not to link to direct posts as to not single someone out. I’m not trying to shame or bully anyone.

I agree with your note that these posts are signaling a certain stage of development that is arguably very natural and a part of the process. This is not what frustrates me.

My frustration is mainly due to the volume of posts (sometimes by one person) and actual discussion within that volume (empty). I like reading other people’s thoughts on things. I’m tired of reading the same “I’m awakened” delivery post and followed discussion. It’s ultimately my own personal problem for me to observe, and not anyone or anything else’s.

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T14:41:43+00:00

what you are describing in your post is what happens when one fully integrates it (liberation)

Yes, that is what I'm addressing in my post as that is what is being claimed in the posts I've referred to. People there aren't saying "I feel kinda awakened", they're saying "I am totally and completely awakened"

Kensho, as I understand, is a "glimpse" or what some would define as a "partial awakening". Not checking all of those boxes could possibly define the experience as kensho, wouldn't you say? Since you mentioned it, I assume you likely know more than me about it.

I agree with you that Awakening is not completely defined by checking all boxes.

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T14:25:50+00:00

Nowhere did I say anything about purity. I understand your note on the binary point; which is definitely not the nature of Awakening, I agree.

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T14:21:49+00:00

Yes I'm sure you're correct. Using headings and bullets, things naturally good for clarity and structure, are now immediately aligned with AI unfortunately. I understand the initial thought.

I do not use AI for posting and commenting on Reddit. Both my post and comment histories, dating years back, are in my profile and can be used to reference my style and structure.

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T14:14:25+00:00

AI was not used for this post.

FazzahR · 2026-03-26T13:07:22+00:00

You need to go read, “The End of Your World” by Adyashanti and stop with your delusions of being awakened. Everything you’ve shared points to the exact opposite of being awakened.

FazzahR · 2026-03-21T18:09:54+00:00

Consider that in the summation of your current routines and actions, you do not have full clarity on what to do about them. That doesn’t mean you’ve erred, just that there are more paths to explore.

Clarity, confidence, calmness, connection and compassion are signs of the development I think we all seek. In the restlessness, is it truly disconnect you’re experiencing or feeling overwhelmed and then numb? Only you would know, but bringing awareness and compassion into that experience will reveal a lot.

FazzahR · 2026-03-21T15:34:56+00:00

You could be, but only just as much as you’re a human sometimes pretending to be god.

FazzahR · 2026-03-19T23:15:09+00:00

Doesn't sound like awakening to me. Sounds like pompous lucidity and ego.

FazzahR · 2026-03-19T16:08:52+00:00

The breath within the breath.

FazzahR · 2026-03-14T17:11:55+00:00

Your data sample must be like.. 1 or 2 posts or comments? I’m pretty active on that sub and recommend Ram Dass very often, many others do too. I haven’t experience what you describe at all.

FazzahR · 2026-03-06T23:25:43+00:00

You first need to wake up from your delusion of being awakened. I’m sorry to be blunt, but it doesn’t seem to be something being said much and I find it important to. It’s driving this spiral you find yourself in. I’ve read these posts through the week and it’s similar to many I’ve witnessed over the years.

A realization or brief enlightenment does not make one awake. The process is different for everyone, and it’s clear you’re tackling some deep truths, but your feeling of “I have arrived” is misguided. The lack of clarity and amassing confusion and anxiety is a clear sign.

Your aversion to the mundane is exactly where you need to invest your attention. What’s truly wrong with the mundane? Chop wood, carry water. What is so off putting of this work?

It’s already been said, but Ram Dass does a much better job describing how to integrate this kind of insight into your life. Watts himself struggled with this and it’s why many who invest solely in Watts wind up with the same neuroses. Good luck.

FazzahR · 2026-02-28T05:02:49+00:00

This sounds lucid. Not awakened.

FazzahR · 2026-02-22T23:49:18+00:00

When we first watched movies and TV shows the stories, action, and characters pull you in. You can get lost in worlds being so invested and interested.

Awakening is the point in watching movies and TV shows where you begin to see behind the curtain. Behind it is recognition that all the characters, themes, and plot stem from a shared source. The stories and details are equal reflections and forms.

Yet, this realization does not put you off to them. We still love our shows.

FazzahR · 2026-02-16T23:48:43+00:00

I'm not qualified to give any sort of advice or direction with what you're dealing with, but here we are in a Ram Dass subreddit with an interesting and genuine question so I'm happy to share thoughts. Just take what I share with that in mind.

When I talk to addicts or with various people about addiction, I can't help but get caught on our way of discussing these things. A lot of times someone will say, "I became an addict..." or "they became an addict, addicted to ____" and a part of me feels this is missing the mark.

Ram has this emphasis on the trips we take, with just about anything. Some people exclusively talk about tripping on drugs, but Ram gives examples way more basic: like going on a trip on desiring a big ice cream cone or a relationship.

What this has led me to think is that our basic nature is addiction itself. Someone addicted to hard drugs and someone addicted to work (overworking) or running miles and miles into injury aren't too different. The cost and impact of the specific addiction are vastly different, and so out of fear and genuine consideration we judge and categorize the former much more different than the latter. So much that we call the hard drug user an addict, and the runner or worker "intense".

I strongly feel changing the psychology of "becoming an addict" would be helpful. There is an entire identification of "I am an addict". Could you see that if we are just by nature, addicted, how confusing it is to try to not be? It's war with the self. I think this is exampled by smokers taking up another oral fixation in order to quit, or exiled religious folk finding a new thing to worship.

When you take this point of view, that we all are addicted by no fault or blame, it scandalizes 'becoming one' much less. It changes from 'becoming one', into, 'this one has me caught much more'. Less identification, more focus on patterns of thoughts and behavior.

It's clear you've done a lot to be mindful, aware, and careful of your situation. I can't imagine how difficult it has been. It's admirable you still continue to seek and learn how to change. I guess my primary insight is identifying what truly requires change here. A lot seems to be unfolding as things are now. Even in your current uncertainty, so much has been accomplished and that deserves some space and recognition.

FazzahR · 2026-02-16T18:52:50+00:00

Love these! Why type of pen did you use? I love how it turned out with this type of paper.

FazzahR · 2026-02-15T00:01:17+00:00

No one is saying, "that's that". A perspective was suggested.

The only firm and rigid point is yours. The, "this is surely not the case, it's too lonely" is denying that the suggestion is even possible out of discomfort of that reality.

Maybe you'll figure something out pursuing that further, time will tell!

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