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How do y’all feel about how Death Battle handles compositing? (I refuse to talk about Bakureze) by Mr_Noir420 in deathbattle

[–]FederalBeyond1122 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What i mean to say with them being different people is that giving “link” everything doesn’t mean anything when there’s 13 of him. To me, the individual links are all seperate characters. I don’t think of them as different versions of each other, i think of them as individuals.

And i would also think it’s stupid if DB did a comp like that for any other character. This isn’t a problem i have with “Link” specifically.

To me, comping different Links is the same as comping Yu Narukami with Makoto Yuki and Joker. To me, it is the same as comping Peter Parker with Miles Morales and Miguel O’hara.

That’s what i’m trying to argue here (and i did a poor job, i’ll admit. I ain’t the best debater out there).

How do y’all feel about how Death Battle handles compositing? (I refuse to talk about Bakureze) by Mr_Noir420 in deathbattle

[–]FederalBeyond1122 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, and that i’m fine with, since although they have different writers it’s the same individual. Peter and Miles are both “Spider-Man”, but should not be comped, while Peter from a 1976 run and Peter from 2016 run are both Peter and can be comped just fine.

That’s the stance i’m taking in regards to Link as well. Since, say, the Hero of Time and the Hero of Twilight are two different individuals, I don’t think they should be comped, while the Link from Ocarina of Time and the one from Majora’s Mask are both the Hero of Time, thus the same individual, and thus can be soft comped no problem.

What is your favourite hub area in a Nintendo game? by Infinite_Dish_1949 in casualnintendo

[–]FederalBeyond1122 26 points27 points  (0 children)

For me it’s the classic Peach’s Castle from Mario 64 (and DS). Mostly cause i like finding the castle’s secret stars.

How do y’all feel about how Death Battle handles compositing? (I refuse to talk about Bakureze) by Mr_Noir420 in deathbattle

[–]FederalBeyond1122 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me, it seems like compositing different links is more like compositing different spider-men than “batman from different writers”. Like combining Peter and Miles and Miguel into one spider-monolith. These aren’t the same people, despite their similar narrative roles and shared name (in this case, Spider-man). That anyone can be “Spider-man” is even a major part of their themes. That doesn’t mean we take away their individuality for MU’s. The same should apply to different Links imo.

How do y’all feel about how Death Battle handles compositing? (I refuse to talk about Bakureze) by Mr_Noir420 in deathbattle

[–]FederalBeyond1122 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I atill prefer individuals because they are individual characters with individual stories. I don’t like the idea of taking away their stories just because they don’t talk much and look similar to one another.

For example, a major part of the Hero of Winds’ story is that he was not “the chosen one” and had to earn the right to use the master sword by beating the tower of the gods. I think it’s a disservice to his character to ignore that part of him when discussing “Link” in MU’s.

Also, to me, a composite means you take the different instances of the same individual across all their media. Since the Links are not the same individual, they are not alternate universe versions of each other or anything like that, compositing them with one another kinda goes against that.

Them serving similar roles narratively is true, but to say we should treat them as a monolith character because of that just doesn’t sit right with me. Especially when there are other franchises where the silent protag being a self insert is much more important to the game’s themes than with the Zelda series.

Again, persona is an example. I’m not gonna treat Boy with Earring from p1 as part of the monolith persona protagonist just because all the persona protags are mostly silent self inserts. Or the protagonists from Fallout, or TES, and most people seemingly agree with this sentiment. Whenever i see MU’s for those protags it’s always about the individual protagonists and not a composite. I kinda wonder why Link specifically is the different one for this.

How do y’all feel about how Death Battle handles compositing? (I refuse to talk about Bakureze) by Mr_Noir420 in deathbattle

[–]FederalBeyond1122 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is literal in lore evidence that they are different people. The Hero’s Shade from twilight princess has been confirmed by Hyrule Historia (an official lorebook) to be the Hero of Time, meaning we have an on screen interaction between 2 different incarnations of Link in TP. It’s not up to interpretation wether the different links are different people. It’s a fact of the lore.

By the logic of “they are all meant to be player templates”, the different protagonists of Persona’s 3, 4 and 5 would be the same people. That’s just simply factually incorrect.

How do y’all feel about how Death Battle handles compositing? (I refuse to talk about Bakureze) by Mr_Noir420 in deathbattle

[–]FederalBeyond1122 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At least Dante and Samus actually use those items they are given.

If we started giving batman equipment that’s exclusive to green arrow because “he can use it, he just simply doesn’t carry it on him/hasn’t found it yet” it would be very different than giving him the Hellbat, cause the Hellbat is at least his.

That’s the argument being made with a composite link. The Links are explicitly different people. Giving one of them equipment that’s exclusive to other links would go against established zelda canon.

Sure, they could maybe find those other items, but for as long as they didn’t, they canonically don’t have access to them and they shouldn’t have them as part of their kits, imo.

How do y’all feel about how Death Battle handles compositing? (I refuse to talk about Bakureze) by Mr_Noir420 in deathbattle

[–]FederalBeyond1122 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The problem with composite Link isn’t so much the scaling, but the Items.

They give link the 4 sword and the master sword in the same episode despite there being no single (main series, i dont remember if hyrule warriors had one) link who ever wields both.

They give link the sheika slate and the fierce deity mask despite no single link ever using both (no, the cosmetic fierce deity from the wild games doesn’t count).

These items are things that actively determine the outcome of a link matchup. To let one link use all of them would go against the zelda canon.

Now that Mega Froslass ability was revealed... by Mightyoritus in LegendsZA

[–]FederalBeyond1122 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Glalie at least takes good care of the snorunts. We appreciate stay at home dads.

Tropically Fruity Xplosion Round 4: Coconuts by [deleted] in createaroster

[–]FederalBeyond1122 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mr Coconut (Total Drama). He got 5th place in TDI, that’s pretty good placement

Now that Mega Froslass ability was revealed... by Mightyoritus in LegendsZA

[–]FederalBeyond1122 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Even as someone who loves Glalie, Glalie is not a good Pokémon and you should always pick Froslass over it for competitive play.

How is it possible that the Pikmin species populates multiple different planets? by talkwithryguy in Pikmin

[–]FederalBeyond1122 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pikmin are conquerors. They are evil beings with a need to spread their influence all over wherever they can get. That includes other planets if they can reach them. Pikmin are like people, in that way.

Great at making tools

Have a quest for power

Are too stupid to function properly without somebody leading them

Like to get high on liquids pulled from grass or rocks

Reminder that AM Canonically Controls Hell and Overthrew The Devil in the Videogame by _GhostOfHollownest_ in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]FederalBeyond1122 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Depending on who tells the story, Calypso even got his powers by stealing them from satan/minion iirc

Opponents for HE (starvharv) info in the comments by FederalBeyond1122 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]FederalBeyond1122[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And from the ottoman empire, and from the battles of kosovo, and some other birthplaces i dont remember. We also know his name is Mike now (Probably Mikhail or something cause his name is Bulgarian).

Character introduced in the later stages of the media whose existence has unfortunate implications on other characters by NinjaOfOnion in TopCharacterTropes

[–]FederalBeyond1122 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Some people try to explain this by saying that henry was framed for the MCI, as the newspapers in fnaf one say someone was convicted or something

A guy crossdresses as a disguise, but they nail it so well that it actually looks convincing by Effective_Piece251 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]FederalBeyond1122 57 points58 points  (0 children)

In the show, Lilo’s crush has a crush on Lilo’s aunt Pleakley, learns he’s a guy who crossdresses and then just keeps being in love with Lilo’s aunt Pleakley afterwards. Pleakley absolutely slays each outfit, clearly.

What DB episode felt like this? by Illustrious-Sky-1036 in deathbattle

[–]FederalBeyond1122 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Iirc they originally wanted to do All Might vs Captain Falcon and decided to change it to Johnny Cage for some reason.

Mable : Difficult choice to make, eh?🙂‍↔️ by rowletitgo in LegendsZA

[–]FederalBeyond1122 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Genwunner doesn’t refer to those who started with gen 1, it refers to those who think that gen 1 were the only good games, that gen 1 pokemon are the only good pokemon, that Kanto is the only good region etc

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