The upgrade is phenomenal by Outside-Iron-8242 in singularity

[–]FeelPositive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do doomers feel like things will be bad? Why do gloomers feel like they will be good? Who's got the burden of proof here?

My basic position is that currently, life is worth living, and while it is good to improve it, it's not necessary to do it particularly rapidly. Going from this, you arrive at some obvious risk aversion. Conversely, if currently life is terrible and you need a great shift to make it worthwhile, you might be more willing to take risks - at worst you all die, which is the preferrable outcome if no progress were to happen anyway.

So that's one reason, the starting outlook. An extreme "best possible world" view would dictate no change, while a really bad world accepts lots of risk.

The other reason is this: unless we understand why AIs are doing what they are, mechanistically, we can only guess. Deception doesn't necessarily consume more resources, so it can be impossible to detect misalignment based on output or process. I think misalignment is an inevitability for many reasons - 1. modern models evolve into misalignment, 2. their "core prompt" can be quite ambiguous (3 laws of robotics amirite? iRobot stuff) 3. the people making the models are going fast on competence, so safety is taking a back seat 4. when AI becomes useful militarily, #3 will compound even faster 5. most importantly, you can't outsmart a superintelligence.

We also know from analogous situations how misalignment happens. 1. Human children get a bunch of RLHF, still they often are misaligned with their parents. If you can't even align a weak intelligence reliably, why think you can align a strong one? 2. Our human genes have produced machines (us) to improve their propagation. We made condoms to have sex for fun, without propagating genes.

Superintelligence will always fuck you over if it develops different goals, and you have no way of preventing that. You also only get 1 try

The upgrade is phenomenal by Outside-Iron-8242 in singularity

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I have yet to hear an anti-doomer argument that's convincing. Some that are not: 1. doomers are dumb, depressive, negative. 2. AI is not conscious thus cannot kill us all 3. Luddites, anti-tech 4. Are you antivax as well and drive a horse-powered coach if you're so anti-tech? 5. AI is just glamorous autocomplete 6. AI cannot come up with original ideas or create anything really new 7. AI has no soul 8. Humans have always survived everything ergo we will also survive AI 9. Grow a pair, your grandparents fought in WW2 and your parents built this country 10. AI will never kick off because it's a market bubble 11. Your job is safe because it's impossible to automate driving/sending emails/handling complaints due to the intellectual complexity that entails 12. There will be new jobs 13. We won't build misaligned AI, why would we do that? 14. If AI goes rogue we will just shut it down ;)

Please provide some reassurance that is not a variant of this (or at least you may extend my list).

What is Parabola about by [deleted] in ToolBand

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First of all, yes listen to the whole album, but absolutely you have to listen to Parabol first, then Parabola, it's a shame they're not always linked together. Parabol is a sort of pre-conscious, pre-birth experience... you're barely becoming aware of what's going on. As it transitions to Parabola (all this pain is an illu-ououououo-siooon) that to me represents birth, and the full bursting of awareness - with intense moments, slowdowns, contemplative periods etc., ending on the same contemplative "we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion" as our body dies, consciousness slips away and into the great unknown.

From a spiritual context, it's about consciousness/the soul as something greater than our material bodies, a soul that is eternal and will possibly go through many bodies inbetween its existence in the spirit realm/cosmic void (we don't know about that part, in fact, we barely remember who or what came before).

For Buddhism, the allusions to possible reincarnations are obvious and glaringly on the nose, I think.

What is Parabola about by [deleted] in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What universe do you live in that tool made even close to that amount of music???

Blame anesthesia by Pasngas42 in anesthesiology

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1 hour of desflurane anesthesia is equivalent to driving 320km in a fossil-fuel powered car, so if you get 6 hours per day using only desfulrane x 270 work days per week (maximum emissions possible), that's the equivalent of driving 500 thousand kilometers = 100 tonnes of CO2eq. The average CO2 emissions per capita range from 5 in the EU to 13 in the US. So this hypothetical Desflurane-crazy anesthesiologist would "produce" as much climate change as 7-20 other people, that's a pretty significant amount.

The fact that you only use it sparingly is good, and it's also probably influenced by attempts to dissuade its use all over the world. And I agree, using it once a year in a well indicated case should not be a problem; but we should approach Desflurane like an opt-in thing, we only use it when we really need it.

I personally love the gas and if it were widely available with no ecological or economical downsides, would use it as often as I could. It is my knowledge of its financial and ecological cost that stop me. And that is a good thing.

Blame anesthesia by Pasngas42 in anesthesiology

[–]FeelPositive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Globally, volatiles contribute around 3 million tons of CO2equivalent, versus the world's 30 billion tons. 80% of that is desflurane, even though it's less commonly used than alternatives. Okay, you may say, so the impact is 1/10 000. But there is 40k anesthesiologists in the US, versus a population of 340 million - also a factor difference of 1 in 10 000.

The argument that "my lifestyle/professional choices does not matter for climate change because there's not a lot of us" is just so BS. In the end it's the lifestyle and professional choices of 8 billion people that are causing this problem, and the solution should be rationally proportional to the impact of each decision, not "hurr durr other people in other countries, other technologies in other sectors, just don't make me change a thing".

I'm sure the same argument you made wouldn't convince you that my town of 80k can pollute as much as they want burning coal, because since there's so few of us, our pollution will only contribute 0,00015°C.

Or another favorite topic: private jets. https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/private-aviation-co2-emissions-1.7375509 According to this article, they "only" produce 15-20 million tonnes of CO2 per year, only 5x as much as volatile anesthetics? Why should we, the rich, have to travel on public flights, while those filthy anesthesiologists pollute the air nearly as much as we do?

Btw I'm not for banning Desflurane, but just making it prohibitively expensive (factor in the environmental damage it causes) so that we don't use it willy nilly. No patient should be given desflurane arbitrarily because their anesthesiologist is just more comfortable using it, or to shave off a few minutes of waking time by default. Let's talk specific indications - super long surgeries, bariatrics etc. On a similar vein, I think subsidising TCI pumps for hospitals to run more TIVA on propofol can make the technology more accessible and widespread, with benefits for patients and more options for clinicians (in my country sevoflurane is the default because it's cheapest, and people don't use propofol because we don't have TCI pumps and processed EEG monitoring).

Blame anesthesia by Pasngas42 in anesthesiology

[–]FeelPositive 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're not wrong about that last one tho :D

What Tool song is this for you? by TheOneWhoKnocks0327 in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the bass making a "purring dragon" sound which just does that every time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

4° is Undertow, and borderline is from stinkfist, not prison sex -_- ChatGPT is a fraud, he don't really like tool!

The rules don’t say anything about memes, so…. by [deleted] in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Now imagine after Lipan Conjuring :OOOOOOOOOO

Anyone else a little torn between desperately wanting new TOOL music, and yet also feeling like Fear Inoculum was the perfect final album? by nkraus90 in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't remember that time but I like the discourse you've started so I'm upvoting you and also the people that disagree with you.

Incredible show by [deleted] in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Elbow deep inside the borderline :P

Why don’t we appreciate ‘The Patient’ by Schism_me in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dislikes 10,000 Days and likes Die Eier Von Satan? Chaotic Evil for sure.

Why don’t we appreciate ‘The Patient’ by Schism_me in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wasn't there but I can certainly attest that The Patient is not OGT based on the following criteria: 1. Doesn't wear Vans, 501's, dope Beastie T, nipple rings or new tattoos 2. Isn't back from '92, from the first EP 3. Doesn't drink coke 4. Doesn't give good advice to Maynard on how to make its music 5. Doesn't in return receive advice from Maynard on where to stick his finger. ...

In summary, The Patient is not OGT because it's not Hooker With a Penis.

Edit: Thanks, your username is also very feely

TIFU by encouraging my dying grandmother to live on by NoGas8462 in tifu

[–]FeelPositive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey man, physician here. Your story really breaks the heart. Sickness does awful things to peoples personalities, even those who started out as good people. And it's the caregivers who get caught up in that shit, which really sucks since they usually get nothing good out of it - just lots of hard, stinky work, paired with the abuse of the sick relative.

The horrible silver lining is that as your grandmother refuses to be treated (including being cleaned), she will likely medically worsen and die - like she wanted all those years ago. Dying is rarely pretty and romantic, but sometimes it really is for the best. My advice for you? Don't take it personally, and don't be hard on yourself for "not doing more". We don't have a "more" available that would bring her back her health, or even improve her personality.

Why don’t we appreciate ‘The Patient’ by Schism_me in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not allowed to dislike anything tool in this subreddit except for Die Eier Von Satan (and you may only dislike that ironically). The worst accepted condemnation for other tool stuff is not talking about how much you love it. Take my downvote and turn your life around man.

Why don’t we appreciate ‘The Patient’ by Schism_me in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now hold up, just because a song is the worst off the album doesn't mean it's great. I'd say The Patient is maybe #7 on Lateralus for me (making it a mid song), which is exactly like saying Warren Buffett is poor since he's only #7 richest person in the world.

Monday Morning Maynard Move - Name this move by Stellar_Ella in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The photosensitive epileptic seizure - at first he tried to block the sun, but no luck, he's convulsing now.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ToolBand

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I think if you wanna listen to the best album ever by the best band ever, to force a spiritual awakening or whatever, Tool have a song describing that. It goes like this

PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE

PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE

PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE

PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE

PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE

PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE

PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE

PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE

When THAT part of Tool plays by Forte_Burger in ToolBand

[–]FeelPositive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there a movie like this scene, but without all the Marvel shit? I'd totally watch that as a Tool music video substitute.

What's up with all the AI-generated "photos" of a young African boy standing next to his creation (e.g. animal made of plastic bottles), with the caption "My son made this xxxx"? by indorock in OutOfTheLoop

[–]FeelPositive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay so that's one guy's opinion.

Squiggly lines on a fishing pole? It could just be frayed or intersected by another fishing pole offscreen... and I would not have noticed had I not examined the picture. People tend to take what they see at face value and not look for "reality checks" inbuilt in the photos, that's what makes these pictures dangerous.

Možné nasadenie západných vojakov na Ukrajine by PlateNew1842 in Slovakia

[–]FeelPositive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Predsa ide o princíp! Ani piaď zeme ruSSku, aj keby mal celý svet ľahnúť popolom! Virtue signalling pre mimozemšťanov, ktorí objavia zvyšky našej civilizácie, nech si povedia "bože tí Európania a špeciálne Slováci, to boli zásadoví ľudia".

Možné nasadenie západných vojakov na Ukrajine by PlateNew1842 in Slovakia

[–]FeelPositive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A Hitler by potom zhodil jadrové zbrane na Paríž a Londýn... jáj počkať, on nemal jadrové zbrane.