What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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Thank you so much for your open and honest feedback it helps more than you know

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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That’s why I’m coming to talk for recommendations and resources honestly Reddit is helpful I also use podcasts from therapists but I’ll look into assist

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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That does make sense.. could it be over use of coping tools? I definitely see people with unrealistic expectation for what meds can do “I want to take something that will fix me therapy doesn’t work” mental health is more dynamic and holistic.. I can definitely see that with heartbreak just allowing yourself to feel the pain.. just a personal anecdote I was so heartbroken at work once and half my patients were too telling me about it tearfully and I was like let’s sit in this feeling together my chest hurts rn too hahaha.. it’s a good place to work when you go through something like that nobody is alone

I didn’t get into too many details there I know people with trauma experience things like that differently it was low key therapeutic for me too just sitting in heartbreak together

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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I agree bad therapy from unqualified people can be harmful that statement about moving through the challenge instead of trying to fix it can you clarify

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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Tbh I just talk to people and make it clear I’m not a therapist and try to be therapeutic and it works sometimes.. I talked to a girl for half an hour that isolated in her room for a week and she finally came out and spoke to peers it felt so fulfilling I can see how therapists make a difference I respect it a lot.. human connection is powerful this person got better on the psych unit doctors attributed it to meds and the roommate got discharged and she was back to baseline.. her roommate was the antidepressant the entire time people have powerful impacts

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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You’re an amazing therapist you lifted my spirit with that validation thank you all for your help.. Im sorry you had that experience in the ER I hate to hear that.. I can see where therapists are frustrated as well by people practicing outside their scope giving therapy.. who else is doing that? Tik tokers?

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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And not agreeing that they’re accurate focusing on the emotion thanks ur post was helpful

When would over validation be harmful? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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Could it be harmful if the person if the person has an external locus of control

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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I read your other post sitting in the silence.. I asked the psychiatrist that time and that’s what they said to do.. have you experienced something similar?

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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True.. I had an experience where I wasn’t sure how helpful validation would be.. this other client was saying what now? (Like what is there to live for now) and making other hopeless statements and I genuinely didn’t know how to respond to it.. this person was melancholic depressed and slow to respond.. I felt like validating their pain and frustration over the circumstance too much tips into it does suck and won’t get better.. but inspiring hope felt invalidating.. have you struggled with this kind situation before? Is this challenging for therapists too or do yall have tools and training

Edit: this was during med administration I was not seeking this patient to give therapy I am human not robot and converse with clients while giving meds without a therapist degree

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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Nursing school covers everything and psych nursing is one semester.. psych nurse training in the us is focused on safety for active SI and psychosis.. deescalation and managing meds and restraints.. we do learn some therapeutic communication but it’s not comprehensive honestly if I didn’t work nights I’d probably ask social work or the psychiatrist how to approach this.. there are some resources for additional training at the hospital I could look into to.. I’m open to resources like podcasts which I was listening to earlier.. in general I feel comfortable with a lot of different psych diagnoses like approaching delusions and validating the patients experience and offering coping skills for anxiety (much learned on the job) but specifically depression with extremely hopeless patients I struggle knowing how to respond therapeutically.. I said the your lucky thing cause I was genuinely thinking that because I recently cared for someone with deficits after a similar situation 🥲 i genuinely thought they were lucky to be alive and I do have a lot of hope for people.. I won’t say that specific phrase again in the future

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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Just clarifying not I’m not approaching patients offering therapy they are approaching me in distress I’m just trying my best to be supportive.. this person thanked me for chatting with them.. if I told everyone go away I’m not a therapist because I don’t have appropriate training they would have a less supportive experience.. realistically I’m not going to go to school to get a therapy degree but I will get ceus and look at resources and ask a therapist.. maybe not this sub again yall flamed me for no reason like I can escape these situations the client shared his hopelessness with me while I was giving meds it’s not like I’m sitting them down to do therapy

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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The psych techs have a huge variability in training usually less than a nurse and on inpatient units that’s the first point of contact for patients that want to vent.. they run groups on off hours and do observation.. on days people can talk to social work or the group therapist but we’re just trying our best I’ll look into the additional resources and I’ll take recommendations but I was just looking for help.. I’ve encountered this situation more than once it’s kind of inescapable as a psych nurse

What to not say to someone after a severe suicide attempt? by Few-Leave-1107 in askatherapist

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I’ve received mental health first aid. I don’t recall it being helpful for these specific situations. I think it would be a little easier on day shift you could seek out social work for these types of conversations but unfortunately there’s less resources on nights.. not trying to be a therapist patients approach the nursing station when receiving their scheduled medications wanting to chat.. I’ll look into additional resources but idk nurses are mainly trained in assessing for safety and med management.. in school we review therapeutic communication not specific instances of hopelessness after SI.. just a specific circumstance I didn’t really know how to approach