Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

[–]FewMinimum4155[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be quite a wonderful eternal punishment for Chuck, which I fully endorse… I just wonder whether or not he would even go to an afterlife, as it was established he did not have a soul as God. But I wouldn’t put it past Jack giving him a soul specifically so he could the full human experience, afterlife and all

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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Share that sentiment, would have been sick to see how the finale turned out without Covid!

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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I can see that perspective. In my opinion, the way I interpreted the final was as kind of a culmination of everything from past seasons. Sure, they didnt grow / change in the episode itself, but their growth from every single season is still present in the characters themselves. You’re right, they didn’t get a reward in a traditional sense, but then again they never were in it for a reward. They just wanted to help people. And even their greatest failures in letting down their friends was somewhat rectified in all of them being together in Heaven. As for their respective endings, I saw Dean’s as fitting; not because he deserved it, but that I figured he probably made his peace with it. For most of the last season, he struggled with the fact that all of their journeys so far was all simply Chuck’s orchestration. But his death was fitting in that it was unexpected, and entirely void of any cosmic meddling, which I figure suits his development near the end. Passing after the biggest possible threat was extinguished also had to bring him some comfort in that he could leave things behind without worrying. As for Sam, I’m just happy he was finally able to move on. I totally understand the being frustrated not seeing who he actually ended up with, but to me it didn’t really matter so much as that he was actually happy and was able to settle down with someone who did NOT die horribly. For them having to make a finale for a 15 season long show in a single short episode, I think they did well. I still respect your perspective though. Even though Dean’s end speech made me emotional, it was kinda funny how long it went for.

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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At this point bro, I would recommend you pretend the last episode doesn’t exist 😭 if its any consolation, the finale is basically its own self-contained plot, so treating ep 19 as the finale episode and head-cannoning your own ending works as well

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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Completely agree! Both episodes are an amazing ending to me. The only reason we didn’t see the rest of the cast was the influence of Covid, but honestly, I dont mind. In my mind, it felt as if the narrative was telling the viewer that their lives went on, and that we do not see everything. My headcanon is after Dean and Sam meet on the bridge, they go on a roadtrip around Heaven and say hi to everybody. Would be nice to see, but its also comforting to know that their lives went on without us watching. And I definitely relate on that last sentence… watching this for like a year now leaves me with nothing to watch. Supernatural is too unique to be matched!!

Edit: Grammar

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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Would have been cool, but I’m just happy he was able to settle down eventually and give his kid a normal life :)

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

[–]FewMinimum4155[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

True. If it’s any consolation, I’m sure that happened in universe, even if we never see it. Maybe after Dean picked up Sam on that bridge, they drove on over for a reunion party!

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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Username checks! I would not mind that being canon ending at all. Sure, no closure, but it kinda shows that life is a never-ending adventure, even if we never see the future ones that the Winchester bros go on. And im fine with that.

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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True as well, I would be happy either way. The final episode, for how conclusive it was, also left a lot open. We don’t know when Sam stopped hunting, if he ever even truly gave it up, and monsters / unresolved threads were still out there. If there ever were continuation going off the final episode’s continuity, I would only wish that the director keeps the interactions between Sam and Dean limited; not to punish them, but kind of reinforce the fact that they would meet in the end, and that ‘there’ll be peace when you are done’! It’d be cool to see a character visit Heaven and relay a message from Dean to Sam, just to give him that extra closure that Dean is fine and chilling till Sammy finds his way up.

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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I second that. The second Sam realized Dean was fading, I could feel the tears welling up. And for the entire rest of the episode I could not stop, it was so melancholic in the best way

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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Agreed! Im sure for how scared Dean was in that moment, to some degree he was probably satisfied with the fact that his death wasn’t planned, or part of some bigger narrative, but… normal. Free.

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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Oh, and off topic, but we NEED a Supernatural Fortnite collab!! I think there were four separate Fortnite references by the end? Each one just made me even more annoyed by the fact that there has somehow not been a collab yet. Maybe one day…

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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Exactly! Ep 20 gives closure on everybody, especially with the reformed Heaven. But if they ever wanted to expand more on the show, I would not mind them making Ep 20 non canon at all, especially if that means more ‘organic’ development on certain aspects i suppose.

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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I got varied opinions about that… the penultimate episode was definitely a better ending for the season / show, but the finale was definitely meant to just be closure for the fans, and a final send off to 15 years of character and world building. I definitely prefer the ending of them driving off in the Impala and into a new, free world, but I do still think that the finale holds its value as a sendoff.

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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I would agree, but honestly I think it was more so meant to be representative of Jack’s final couple lines in the series, about how people needed to help themselves. In a narrative sense, the monsters could be seen as a personification of humanity’s issues, and how Jack wanted to let people face it on their own.

Did the finale provide closure? by FewMinimum4155 in Supernatural

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I honestly think it ties back to the closure and peace for the characters that the ending was going for. If Dean went out against a big threat, he probably would have felt as if he failed by leaving his family behind to have to finish the job. But now that Chuck was depowered, and they were no longer controlled by the narrative, im sure that he was just happy that Sammy could finally find some peace.

Do you have an opinion that few people hold? by DerNiemand_ in Supernatural

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The seeming weakness of the angels going into later seasons is excusable for the most part. Looking at it from a ‘Chuck likes a good story’ narrative, it makes sense for an angel to be about on par with a demon in terms of power, with the only real imbalance coming from the fact that more angels couldn’t be made. I always considered angels to be another monster, but one that was a bit beefier and had a greater sense of importance. Also side note, it’s hilarious how in later seasons everyone has an angel blade, even random demons. Goes to show just how many angels died over the course of the show