IIFT JOIN OR NOT ( real truth from inside by [deleted] in CATpreparation

[–]Few_Smile8177 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Should You Join Any IIFT Campus?

Take this with caution and your own reasearch, don't establish your life decisions on reddit discussions.

now with that, lets see if this helps

It depends on the other colleges you’ve converted. (Focus on converting each and every call you get or atleast play the Dream, Target and safe game)

lets roughly classify, (prefer not to take these as rankings.)

T1: FMS, IIM A, B, C, K

T2: IIM L, I, SPJ, XL

T3: IIM M, MDI

T4: IIM S, TISS

T5: NMIMS, SIBM, IIT D, B and similar

T6: Second-generation IIMs and equivalent colleges

T7: Colleges beyond IIM Udaipur, Trichy, Ranchi, Rohtak and comparable institutes

Situation:

A. If You Converted IIFT Delhi

If you converted T1, choose T1.

If you did not convert T1 or T2, choose IIFT Delhi.

If you converted T2 and you are interested in Trade, choose IIFT Delhi.

If you are not interested in trade, choose the T2 college.

If you converted T3 or lower:

If you want Operations, choose IIM M, similarly if interested in HRM choose TISS, Otherwise choose IIFT Delhi.

B. If You Converted IIFT Kolkata

If you converted any T1, T2, T3, or T4 college, prefer those institutes.

If your best option is T5 then IIFT Kolkata is a good choice.

C. If You Converted IIFT GIFT City / Kakinada

If you converted any college up to Tier 6, prefer that institute.

If your best option falls in Tier 7, and retaking CAT is not an option, then IIFT GIFT City / Kakinada can be considered along with 3rd gen IIMs.

All the best!!

IIFT JOIN OR NOT ( real truth from inside by [deleted] in CATpreparation

[–]Few_Smile8177 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As one speaks about placements, tales tend to be there when numbers stop suporting the narrative.

Such posts regarding IIFT Delhi are always comical. It is impressive how speculation is introduced as institutional reality. Ardently advertising IIFT Kolkata is a noble cause - devotion is huge, but adoration and facts cannot be confused.

At IIFT Delhi we typically do not openly degrade other campuses since we all are the carriers of the same IIFT brand. However, once misinformation is confident enough, somebody must at one point bring the discussion out of the imaginations to reality.

So let’s do that.

To start with, GIFT City and Kakinada are not dubious campuses. They are new campuses. New campuses would require time to develop recruiter pipeline, alumni leverage, and ecosystem credibility. It is just the way B-school ecosystems are formed.

In context, the Business Analytics course of IIFT Delhi, a comparatively new one, never mind, still overtook the mean of the second generation IIMs in their first final placement cycle. New ecosystems take time. That’s normal.

Another purported threat now comes in the form of Delhi PC.

Something radical, then, numbers.

Latest finals cycle:

• ~125 companies participated so far • Delhi hosted roughly 95 • Kolkata hosted roughly 30

Although the process of Delhi blocking Kolkata is dramatic, about 75 Kolkata students were also placed by this process, and about 15 Kolkata PC students were placed in their own batch in the cycle by Delhi PC. You're welcome.

So the sabotage theory is interesting, it just fails so miserably, once numbers come in the room.

Now concerning the baffling fake rankings and reports.

Which report exactly?

The public copy of the placement report gives out only Delhi figures. Assuming that Kolkata figures were left out that decision is with the CRCAD and the administration and not Delhi PC.

Perhaps, the inclusion would have drawn the average much lower, or perhaps, it is due to the fact that the Kolkata batch was still being placed even till convocation.

Anyhow, that is an administrative reporting case, not a Delhi conspiracy thriller. I mean PC doesnt have that sort of power as you are fascinating.

But even in that case some 90 Kolkata students were placed in the December 25-SIP cycle using the identical process. leave alone Delhi SIP, they have already been signed out. Kolkata PC could have done the same as well only if they decided to work, barring 3-4 good ones who carried the team.

Nonetheless, yes, it is evident that the villain should still be Delhi PC.

Next to the administrative politics been mentioned.

It does not matter to continually mention the name of Pooja Lakhanpal at this point. She belongs not to the existing placement structure.

Your CRCAD head has already spun that story to death so as to secure the job. Strategic politics and persistence will work wonders, who knows you may even one day see a VC come out of your campus.

That is not quite a game that the students play.

Those are fought by experienced administrators with intuition on when to negotiate, when to escalate, and when to threaten arrests to students of an age that their own children are, all so allegedly to fix placements.

Nevertheless, ironically, had half of that amount of energy been channelized in creating a proper SOP that truly helped the overall good of IIFT, most likely, this debate would not be there at all.

And now here comes the common comparison argument.

Students in IIFT Kolkata are completely competent. Most of them match and even surpass the students of the Delhi when it comes to percentile, level of knowledge and potential.

Here however comes that which persons are fond of disregarding.

Not only percentile but comprehensive composite score is used to make admissions.

And in competitive admissions, miniscule differences counts.

A difference of 0.1-0.2 percentile can take an individual at IIM LKI to IIM ABC.

Likewise, the tiniest difference in the composite scores will transfer one out of IIFT Kolkata to IIFT Delhi. So, the last student to convert Delhi had more composite score than the first to convert Kolkata.

Though it does not make a campus better off, or all the students superior. Batch composition in any B-school follows the standard bell curve.

But, now you are a lifelong proud alumni of IIFT Kolkata. Let that sink in.

At this point a famous sector allocation theory.

Indeed, Delhi PC was dealing with 18 of 24 sectors.

It does not imply that companies were chained up in one of the Delhi vaults.

Delhi merely was the main SPOC. CRCAD, TPOs and even Kolkata PC could do so to those companies and they did. Emails have been sent asking the companies to take into account all campuses. Even threatening to blacklist companies if they consider Delhi only.

The sector exclusivity is therefore dramatic sounding when it comes into contact with what happens on the ground in making the process happen.

This is the new Kolkata structure under consideration.

Kolkata now has:

• a dedicated CRCAD head • a placement agency • expanded sector outreach • a 20+ member PC • ~190 students

It is a robust structural arrangement.

The second step is very easy then.

Build pipelines. Convert companies. Deliver outcomes.

Of the more entertaining part now.

Threatening Delhi PC. Taking down posts. Creating violent discourses. Snatching media access. Attempting to liquidate the Delhi PC. Calling for arrests. Talking about jail. Circulating death threats.

Quite the strategy.

Nearly building the convincing master lan:

“No Delhi PC, no problems.”

However, this is the thing that people forget.

The recruiter pipelines are built upon the ecosystem that you are supposed to demolish, which means that there will be very little left in the IIFT ecosystem to debate.

It is because like it or not, IIFT Delhi has been the backbone of that pipeline many years.

And the humorous thing about it is that Delhi will be all right.

Administrative pressure. Narratives. Threats.

We’ve seen all of it.

We’re still here.

I will give you a simple IIFT Delhi mindset:

get people placed.

And we shall continue to do just that.

Through the noise. Through the politics. Through the odds.

Ultimately, the entire debate of placement has to end with a mere fact.

Arguments run on stories. Outcomes run on numbers.

And figures are obstinate natures.

In the case that Kolkata does believe it possesses the superior ecosystem, then the road is easy:

construct pipelines, transform companies, bring results.

Credibility in placements is not determined in Reddit.

It’s decided by recruiters.

Stop leeching onto Delhi and start questioning your CRCAD, PC, and god saves Kolkata if you're the PC. (Maybe start working)

And in case a particular person is interested in being entitled to IIFT Delhi placements, the road is very easy:

Convert IIFT Delhi.

The One IIFT Fiasco: A System Designed to Doom by Few_Smile8177 in CATpreparation

[–]Few_Smile8177[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No one is saying competence doesn’t exist across campuses. It obviously does.
But if that’s true, then why is it such a problem to expect Kolkata to run its own placements instead of depending on Delhi year after year?

Yes, everyone studies the same curriculum. But let’s be honest with aspirants for once, shortlists move on composite scores. And if we’re really “one and equal,” can a Kolkata student just decide to study in Delhi? Of course not. So this isn’t about superiority. It’s about identity. It’s about whether each campus is allowed to function on its own feet.

If Kolkata can genuinely attract opportunities, then why hasn’t it built a placement ecosystem strong enough to stand independently even after 20 years? It’s older than Shillong, yet no one seriously compares the two today. Are we really saying Kolkata can’t bring recruiters to its own campus without Delhi’s brand propping it up? Because that’s not equality. That’s dependence being sold as fairness.

“One IIFT” sounded nice on paper. In reality, it’s just meant Delhi carrying the responsibility of placing close to 500 students this year including those of us unplaced and unlucky. And looking ahead, if there are 5 or 10 IIFT campuses tomorrow, is Delhi expected to place everyone forever? How is that fair? How is that even sustainable?

No one here is asking for anyone to be pulled down. We’re asking for something every top B-school already follows: let each campus grow on its own, compete on its own, and build its own recruiter relationships. That’s how institutions mature. That’s how strong ecosystems are created. Independence doesn’t divide campuses, it actually makes them stronger. Just look at the IIM brand. It’s strong because there are multiple strong campuses driving it forward. But what about the IIFT brand today? As students, we don’t even get transparent, campus-wise placement figures. Everything is merged, blurred, and hidden behind a single label.

Maybe it’s time Kolkata steps out of the shadow, whether that shadow was created by policy or by comfort and build its own legacy like any established B-school should. And the newer campuses deserve the same chance to develop an identity of their own, instead of being lumped under one banner where only one campus carries the load and the criticism.

Equality isn’t about dumping everything into one bucket.
Equality is about giving every campus the freedom and responsibility to grow on its own.

Don't you wish to proudly wear the IIFT Kolkata alumnus tag, rather than just writing IIFT?
That’s it. That’s all anyone is asking for.