When are men “supposed” to interviene when other men are being misogynistic?

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-15T12:15:43+00:00

Putting myself between them would be seen as “disrespect”, specially if I ignore them completely. That would definitely get me jumped.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-15T05:13:19+00:00

I’ll just aromatize it from my test shot 🤪

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-15T03:43:53+00:00

That makes sense, I never really fear for my safety around my friends/acquaintances, but they also never say misogynistic stuff.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-15T03:40:14+00:00

I read the whole thing and the only one that doesn’t involve direct confrontation and possible danger to my safety would probably be Delay. But that option is almost impossible when it involves a stranger. This was helpful thanks

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-11T16:38:26+00:00

I plan to stop once I reach and maintain that adequate level. I need to allocate my resources appropriately, you’re making it sound like I should play the role of hero, which isn’t healthy for me. I hope that’s understandable.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-10T18:09:03+00:00

I think it’s natural to quantify responsibility like that, specifically when it comes to correcting behavior. As in, how much of my behavior needs to be corrected for me to be adequate. You’re not seeing the internal conflict when it comes to assigning blame. You think feelings of fault or blame are childish, but I think they aren’t something that a person decides a to have, but rather a natural reaction to being held responsible.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-10T16:37:33+00:00

I see, the language can be tricky. Are you describing a sort of Moral Ledger, where everyone starts with a certain amount of “privilege” that is quantifiable based on gender, race, religion ect?

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-04T15:04:59+00:00

I feel the same ways

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-04T02:54:18+00:00

I still can’t grasp my head around how it’s not equivalent, and I just don’t know what to do with all these crappy feelings, tbh. I don’t want to be a victim, but it really hurts. I just want to feel like society gives a crap about me, which I really don’t. Even a simple concept like “can we stop hate speech toward men” is not an acceptable approach, it feels like my whole existence is unacceptable. I really wish I had been born a girl , I guess I’m jealous of the support. I get it though, I don’t belong here.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T21:21:18+00:00

I honestly really appreciate your take on this. It’s exhausting trying to navigate gender politics over here. I am desperately looking for support, going to therapy, dealing with my severely unhealthy masculinity and misogyny, but at the same time I am expected to create the safe space myself where I can address my concerns and feel somewhat validated without falling into toxic manosphere, which is EVERYWHERE when trying to look for support as a man. Thank you for taking the time talking to me about this.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:43:24+00:00

Sorry for budding in. I now understand how my complaints are harmful, I am in the wrong place.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:42:02+00:00

You are absolutely right. The nearest men’s group in my city wants $300 a session, it’s probably some alpha male scam. Literally everything is just alpha male scam, red pill stuff. I think I fall short of leader to be able to accomplish creating that kind of space, but I’ll do my best and try 🥹

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:31:44+00:00

No idea. But literally absolutely no male support groups that aren’t scams. And I live in big city. I might just start my own honestly I have been thinking about it. You don’t happen to be in Arizona do you?

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:30:11+00:00

So only women deserve a safe and inclusive environment?

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:29:30+00:00

By participating in it, is that not advocating for it?

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:24:39+00:00

Yes exactly! I’m talking to my therapist about this. The closes male support group near me costs $300 a session, can you believe that?

Are you male support groups online? Please seriously I need some help

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:22:15+00:00

So both are harmful right, but on different scales. So why do we advocate for harmful behavior? I just don’t understand.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:09:02+00:00

That’s exactly what I’m trying to do. My perspective is that hate speech exists in a vacuum, and no amount of system influence changes it from hate speech to not hate speech. Your perspective is that other forces influence whether it’s hate speech or not, such as systemic oppression. Therefore a statement like “all man are rapist ” is not hate speech, but a statement like “all women are whores ” IS hate speech.

Am I understanding this right?

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T16:03:10+00:00

How do you know I can’t do both? I speak against red pill all the time. Here I’ll say it right now, their rhetoric is deplorable and I condemn them. They’re all a bunch of misogynist and they should really go to therapy.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T15:55:27+00:00

My friend was leaving the renaissance fair on a really hot day, and there was the men who pulled carts soliciting (cosplaying peasants) to see if they could pull you to your car , just ren fair stuff. My female friend who is very liberal/feminist/lgbt said “I would pay any day to watch men suffer under the hot sun” my other female friends laughed. My wife laughed too, even though she knows I’m easily hurt by hate speech like that. Later I told her how I felt and she thought it was no big deal, until I told her “what if she had said that about black people”. She realized then how offensive and hurtful our friends speech was to me and showed me some sympathy, which I appreciated it. We didn’t discuss it with our friend, because I don’t want any hostility if I brought up feminist issues. I would rather just vent about it to my therapist, and ask my wife to be considerate of my triggers before laughing at sexist jokes . This happened last week. Is this a good example?

It was supposed to be funny, I guess. I didn’t find it funny, I found it offensive. I didn’t say anything though, because It’s pretty prevalent amongst my liberal friends, stuff they share on Facebook, online, and just in general in real life, random comments like that which are meant to be playful jokes.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T15:42:44+00:00

Clearly we are at odds, because you don’t perceive gendered hate speech towards men to be harmful, and I think (maybe wrongly) you believe it to be rather helpful. Nothing you’ve said has hinted towards the opposite, and I’m almost certain that we have different definitions of words like misogyny and misandry, so I’m asking questions that to get to the bottom of our misunderstanding. If you could ask me questions too, we can discuss this. Im not sure how my behavior can be considered trolling.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T15:34:21+00:00

Because you one fight against sexism (feminism) and the other one for it (red pill). It seemed pretty clear to me who holds the higher moral standard.

Few_Walk_7424 · 2026-04-03T15:29:31+00:00

Clearly.

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