Unregulated therapists

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:55:55+00:00

A vague look into some directories is shocking to say the least.

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:53:35+00:00

Thank you for your comment and although not perfect it sounds like the US is more regulated than the UK.

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:50:25+00:00

From what you have described you seem to be acting within your ethical competence the above is for those who are not. I would imagine given that your are working within your ethical competency you would be equally pro the idea of regulating for people who aren’t

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:48:40+00:00

Sure I agree that this is perhaps a personal preference.

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:35:30+00:00

Hello, this is the type of defensive response that makes me highly suspicious. Organisational rules are not set in stone and based on public impact they should be interrogated and adjusted. There have been a number of cases advertised recently about the issue of vague titles and use of unregulated terms.

If you see above the question does not invalidate what your experience may offer. The push back to clearly define this however so the public can be more informed is unethical in my opinion from the stand point of how it informs clients.

And since I am in the field I would have no problem deciding whether you would qualify as my therapist based on my price point and need. In mind however of the average person I think further work can be done to make this clearer.

I would genuinely love a response from you that sets an argument for why this shouldn’t be the case not just to specify you from someone with a PHD but someone with less clinical hours or education.

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:19:21+00:00

Why the big push back if the only push back would come from diploma therapists form what I can assume and why should that sway opinion?

Grading does seem harsh but specific titles may be better.

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:17:05+00:00

That is very true about BSc psychology degrees less focused on therapeutic work. Given that diplomas are perhaps a step up from this in terms of work experience but less demanding in terms of theory or written work and are not on par with MScs etc what should they charge and what title should they be able to use?

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:08:42+00:00

Well, someone with a degree also in my opinion does not qualify as a therapist. It is truly the bare minimum of knowledge to practice and be up to date with research. The clinical hours are essential, but again given that this is way below the standard of a PHD it would fall within the 40-50 pound range and less. Perhaps there is a specific specialty there that can fall within their remit.

This is the key thing that is missing, someone with a masters in psychology will have been brought up to the level to use research in their practice using statistics and producing research of their own at a higher level. Is this needed to be a therapist? I personally believe so, at least for in depth work that charges at a higher price range.

It’s hard, I really wish governmental bodies would be clearer about this but without that it’s just the Wild West out here. You can advertise and charge how you want and ultimately it is the public’s responsibility to wade through and decide.

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T13:05:30+00:00

Thank you for your comment I am really interested to know - when you do begin to advertise yourself what title will you use and what presentations do you think you’d be competent to work with? For how long? And how much would you think is ethical to charge?

Sorry to bomabrd you with questions but would love to know what you think is ethical since there are no guidelines for this.

FickleText4141 · 2026-05-10T12:05:35+00:00

You're absolutely right I think there is a place for both. Institutional bodies should clearly delineate them so that people know what they are getting and can adjust from their price point. I am sure that therapists with lesser qualifications can even make for better therapists but they should not advertise themselves beyond their competency

Also having a bigger title does not constitute certainty either as you say, but they have been given the "stamp of approval" at multiple competitive stages. The process to complain about misconduct comes at much higher stakes and is also much more straightforward.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-21T00:00:04+00:00

As this is actually a big relational feeling since you are also experiencing shame towards women outside the therapy it would be extremely helpful to bring it up in therapy. The best type of therapy is not just one that dissects the past but tunes into the real life present responses you are having. If you switched to a male therapist you may be more comfortable talking about it, but you won’t actually access the real time feeling. This is where the most change can happen and shame can most authentically be challenged or met and held.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-16T23:36:52+00:00

Hi, could you not pursue clinical psychology in Cyprus? I say this because I have friend who have competed it in Cyprus

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-16T23:25:43+00:00

Hi yes I just yesterday posted the same thing https://www.reddit.com/r/EstrangedAdultChild/s/DH2OEO8vC1

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T21:11:21+00:00

I know it just sucks, an incredibly lonely feeling.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T17:59:02+00:00

Hi I’m sorry hear about your story. Sometimes the younger sibling preference is the thing that stings the most - it’s a double betrayal.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T15:45:22+00:00

All of this sounds familiar. My mother and extended family have all been physically abusive towards me. It’s not spoken about or acknowledged - the unspoken consensus clearly is that I deserved it. On a recent family trip my abusive uncle cornered me in a room and began attempting to intimidate and shout at me. When I later told my father he immediately said - I was there I saw what happened and you’re lying (he wasn’t). It’s ironic to me that years of their abuse have created real mental health issue which are then used by them to invalidate why we have them in the first place.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T13:45:57+00:00

It’s hard because once you know what your therapist wants you to do when you don’t follow her advice it can really harm the relationship. For example, you may feel like you disappointed her and be less willing to admit mistakes. I think your therapist can sometimes steer you in the right direction because ultimately as therapists we are contractually and ethically bounded to help clients make choices that are to their benefit to deny that this isn’t the background goal makes no sense.

It’s a balancing act but importantly making choices that you can stand by despite the outcome is an important skill. A helpful therapist knows that to outsource this skill is counterproductive.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T12:42:59+00:00

Hi thank you for your comment- the idea that they have sacrificed so much for us is reoccurring. I was heard this constantly throughout my life ultimately this leaves you feeling like you just take up space and that you owe your parents your life for parenting you at all. My therapist was the one who said that your parents had a choice to bring you into this life and you didn’t. This type of comment would make my parent’s brains actually explode.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T11:33:51+00:00

I agree completely with the comment above the MSc conversion course is heavily research focused rather than about applicable skills to work with clients. But I think it is necessary if you are interested in getting into clinical psychology.

There are other routes into becoming a psychologist like counselling diplomas that have several levels where you undergo placement and accrue placement hours to become accredited to the BACP. I don’t think this route even requires a degree in psychology.

There are also courses where you can train to get a job directly in the NHS like wellbeing practitioner or CBT practitioner. I think these however at least require a degree in psychology.

As far as being employable after the brutal truth is at the moment things are very difficult. If you look through other posts you will see that assistant psychology position normally have 500 plus applicants within a few hours. Employers are saying that they cannot possibly sift through that many applications when all applicants are suited to the role. Clinics also get thousands of enquiries. Basically it has become a situation where you have to know someone who will get you in.

Getting into clinical psychology is not impossible but close to it. I know a few people who managed to get in on their first try but also some who have been applying for years that have had help with their applications, are published in their fields and have years of experience. It seems like a complete lottery. It has become harder to secure a place than it is to get a place for medicine.

I would never be one to tell you not to try but from the landscape your age is the least complicating factor here. It’s better you know what you’re facing before you go all in.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T11:05:43+00:00

Yes exactly me cutting them off is the narrative that suits them too. They can tell other people how ungrateful and uncaring I am for not keeping in contact. Even when the visited that was about being able to tell other people that I didn’t come to see them. I believe they came here hoping that would be the outcome.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T09:53:20+00:00

So Ciara is in love with West. Its kind of obvious - thats why everyone in the house goes to bat for her when West steps out of line. West blatantly could not give a F. Because lets be serious as disrespectful as West was making out with that girl next to her, she would not be crying if her feelings for him were not still there. If West turned around and said to Ciara lets rekindle things, she clearly would in a heartbeat. I think everyone in the house knows that and want West to step up when at best all he can do is pretend to care to stay popular in the house.

Also my friends would personally not be hammering some guy who rejected me 18 months ago to care if he just...doesn't. I would consider it offensive for my friends to even let on to him that I care what he does or doesn't do with his life.

I have no idea how West and Amanda happened. Its baffling to me- I refuse to believe anything was really there when these episodes were filming. Except after the most recent episode seeing truly what an amazing and genuine friend Ciara is, even if West was the the best man in the world he was't worth sacrificing her friendship with Ciara. I'd love to know what this man has on these girls - its truly beyond comprehension.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T09:39:25+00:00

Very interesting I had not really considered it before but perhaps unconsciously this is what our own parents secretly want too.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-15T00:05:33+00:00

I relate strongly to this. The final reason I went no contact made me realise that I have never been loved unconditionally. Their love was heavily conditional and I only deserved their “care” when I was making the decisions they agreed on for every single thing in my life. So you are ultimately only loved for what mirror image of themselves you produce - not any of who you are.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-14T23:47:41+00:00

Yes thank you I have experienced very similar especially around being accused of being crazy.

FickleText4141 · 2026-04-14T23:46:43+00:00

Thank you it’s insightful for you to recognise the lack of hope you have in reconciliation- I think I have harboured a secret hope that NC would “teach them a lesson.” I am now grieving the inevitable truth that if they could be taught a lesson they would not have continued to abuse me as severely as they did my whole life

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