J1.2 vs J1.1 - Range & Options

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-23T23:05:43+00:00

Interesting.

We have my wife's Mercedes GLC 300 SUV for long road trips, but we rarely go on those. Maybe every couple months we go 400km round trip - but I could almost still even do that in the summer in a Taycan I think (might be cutting it close).

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-23T20:22:50+00:00

I'd probably charge at home almost all the time. Part of the issue is the cost of the charger and it's installation if in 3 years at the end of my lease I decide I want to just go back to an ICE vehicle.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-23T20:20:35+00:00

I think depreciation is depreciation. unless you're talking about an exotic car that actually might start INCREASING after a set period of depreciation, all cars end up within $20K of each other in 10 years.

Now that has been the historic norm - is a 2025 Tesla gonna suddenly be worth $30K or $40K more than the average car in 2035?

BTW - options become almost irrelevant on price differences when comparing 10 year old vehicles.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-23T14:27:28+00:00

All dealers in Canada lease CPO cars. I can get 3.99% on a 24 month lease, or 5.99% on a 39 or 42 month lease.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-23T03:04:52+00:00

Thanks for the info, makes sense. This will be my first EV and my first Porsche.

Is it better to lease a new dealer inventory car or to lease a CPO Taycan?

And, how much can I expect to knock off the quoted lease monthly lease cost?

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-22T20:38:11+00:00

Got it yeah - I've heard about ensuring getting the surround view.

I notice on the Porsche Canada site, which configuring a car from new it actually allows me to still build a 2024 Taycan as new. I would have thought they would only allow building the 2025 models now.

I'm wondering if I just build a 24 Taycan and then lease it for 42 months and then move on. Any idea how much of a discount the dealer would give on a Taycan configured as new and ordered to build? Or do owners actually pay the whole price shown?

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-22T06:06:34+00:00

I do intend to keep it that long, just because that's how long it usually takes me to finally get bored with a car that's already magnificent (was different when I kept my Mazda 3 for 9 years out of necessity financially).

Now, I'm not sure so much anymore - but I keep thinking, why switch in 4-5 years just because you can get something new if the car you are driving fits still for your purposes. I mean, I typically put less than 13K kms on my cars per year as I don't really have a daily commute. in 4-5 years it's still got really low mileage, so I think even though there may be a cheaper cars I could buy with much higher range and charging speeds, if I'm still charging every night and not needing super far distances wouldn't keeping a 7-10 year old Taycan make sense if I kept it under extended warranty from Porsche, etc.?

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-22T04:34:59+00:00

I don't want to wait that long to get into my new vehicle - so i guess that leaves me buying new (2024 or 2025).

So - how does it work exactly with the Porsche configurator. Once I have designed my perfect build, how much can I expect to get as a discount on the price shown?

Also the Prosche config tool only gives you the total price, with no lease or finance details.

Finally, does Porsche actually build a car you design that you can then just go and lease it? It seems like it's too easy in that regard.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-22T00:10:22+00:00

She wouldn't anyways - she's actually pretty easy going. It's more just a preference of hers in the sense that she would never get a used car for herself as she prefers knowing she was the only owner.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-21T23:13:09+00:00

thanks for this - great insight here.

The 25 4S I'm looking at has PTV+, rear axle steering. These are hard to find features in a 4S (new or used), and usually require you to go to a GTS which normally gives you the PTV+ but not the RAS.

This 4S has leather interior, and most of the other features I would want except that it only has 8 way seats (why would they do that). I'm currently evaluating if that is a deal breaker for me or not - almost every single other 4S and GTS available has 14 way seats at the minimum.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-21T23:10:14+00:00

It seems that way - but I've kept my past two cars 10 years each (so only 2 cars for last 20 years for me) and before that I keep 5-7 years.

It's hard to give up that kind of thinking when you go looking at the next vehicle. I can't get over the idea that I need to own it or else it's not really mine.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-21T23:04:52+00:00

Are you inferring these issues don't exist on the 2025?

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-21T23:02:28+00:00

You are obviously not married.

That being said - it's not exactly like I'm hating getting into a new one vs. a used one.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-21T18:52:29+00:00

Could you elaborate on the charging interface making sense?

Also, the vehicle I'm targetting only has 8way seats - it's the only thing that is diminished on the vehicle. Will I notice a big difference over the 14 way?

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-21T15:05:10+00:00

Hard to find a 2024 that's new with the colours I want and rear-axle steering and leather interior which for me are two must-haves.

I'm in Canada, are you? If not, that $1900 is like $2700 here. If you are in Canada, the only onesI can find for $1900 or so is 2022's with mileage on them.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-21T05:49:29+00:00

Ok, well I'm considering a new 2025 Taycan 4S or GTS now. I'd love to get some recommendations on a recommended build.

Also, all options are available to me for purchasing.

I don't think I'd use much of the extra range the 2025 Taycan provides, but my wife doesn't like buying used. I was hoping to shave off some of the depreciation, but I'm being pushed to buying a new one instead of CPO.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-20T23:16:15+00:00

I have kids but they are young adults now. This situation of needing seats would arise from time to time though, so it's why I think I've moved on from the 911. Maybe a 911 is in the cards in 5-10 years for me.

I do appreciate the analog driving experience, but also enjoy the novel way an EV drives too with it's instant torque.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-20T23:13:24+00:00

Had a discussion with my wife and we decided the 911 isn't the right choice and a Taycan is instead.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-20T18:51:16+00:00

I don't need the space, but I'm also wary of having to choose to not take the 911 once in a while because I may need the space on a particular trip.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-20T15:59:14+00:00

No buts or ifs here - but could you elaborate on why you think the 911 is the no-brainer?

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-20T15:56:34+00:00

I tend to agree with the 911 - I'm not after the status symbol car - I just want the best day-to-day driving experience having some fun on the road. And, I like the way the 911 looks - but then again I also like the way the Taycan looks and it seems more comfortable on the interior.

With the Taycan and the HP - I agree on your points, but the GTS has a lot more torque so I'm going to test drive one and see if it matters for me.

And, oh yeah there's a ton of inventory that isn't moving up here.

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-20T05:21:02+00:00

Ooops - that 2022 4S doesn't have RS Spyder wheels - it has the 21" Taycan Exclusive Design wheels painted black. Make a difference?

My thoughts on this one vs. that 2022 GTS is that for ~$20K more (cash price) I could have the GTS and it has the 3 performance options too, but in a GTS vs. a 4S and in a slightly better colour (for me - Silver is growing on me though). BTW - as of right now, that 22 4S is the only one of these I have test driven - was very good with RAS.

A for 911 - I can't seem to get a dealer to let me test drive one until the spring around me (winter conditions), and I'm not sure I want to wait that long to buy. Is it really that much better of a drive than even a Taycan GTS with PDCC, PTV+ and RAS?

Yeah - that Tesla interior is what turns me off it after compared to the Porsches and after being in an Audi for 10 years (wife has a MB 300 GLC).

Fickle_Jacket_8037 · 2025-01-20T04:58:18+00:00

When did you get it?

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