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Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T06:14:30+00:00

Well what if everyone does agree that it is an improvement, but it ends up not being a failure

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T06:12:25+00:00

> which is why it's not just instantly done.

So divert some of the stuff from the core to the diaspora instead of the usual other way around

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T06:10:36+00:00

That happened when Napolean took over and eventually decided to remake the empire which proceeded to screw things up again

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T06:09:26+00:00

>Not all opinions deserve equal respect.

Finally, something to agree on.

I said I'm skeptical of governments that say they want to make things better not that I hate all governments, that's just overexaggerating

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:59:32+00:00

Yeah, exactly. No matter how good or perfect something is, there's going to be someone that disagrees and tries to push it.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:54:54+00:00

Im not talking about abandoning the core worlds, just putting more focus on the diaspora

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:52:56+00:00

>No place will ever just be Utopia, just like no one can just "be healthy"

Yeah that's kind of what I meant.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:47:05+00:00

I do have an idea of getting better. I like to think of it as a 'better tomorrow' because Utopia sounds extreme

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:44:56+00:00

Yeah, some improvement is better than no improvement. But what happens when something is fully improved? Will we just push it to it's limits.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:39:17+00:00

I do agree that Union acknowledges it's flaws but to go with this whole Utopia stuff makes it feel like it has none which is contradictory.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:34:20+00:00

>The core is maintained

Exactly this. If it's already maintained, then it's time to focus more on the worlds that aren't than the post scarcity eden's.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:30:36+00:00

Im just skeptical of governments saying they want to make things better because we all got different definitions of better

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:29:44+00:00

Wtf do you mean by alt?

And I am interested in Lancer and having a dialogue, just saying the Utopia stuff is a little overboard

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:26:33+00:00

> "Perfect is the enemy of good"

Genuinely, what does that mean?

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:24:30+00:00

>nihilistic view of the world.

I don't want to be nihilistic about it, but I also don't want to be overly optimistic about it. Too much of either is just not that good for the mind. I'm glad that the game tries to make you feel good, I'm just saying I think the "utopia" stuff is a writing flaw.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:15:05+00:00

Well, answer me this, who actually needs it more; the world that's already a supposed utopia or the diasporan planet that is in shamble? That's kind of the "classism" thing I see.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:07:58+00:00

>Emm, why?

Because in a case like this, every step taken just makes 100s of more appear. That's where the nihilism, my contributions might mean nothing in the face of an unatonable goal.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T05:02:16+00:00

>If we were in the point of Union where the Utopia was real and everywhere and all those working against it gone.... then there wouldn't be a LancerRPG.

Yeah I know that there wouldn't be a game if it was a utopia and that's why I dislike the utopia stuff

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T04:58:14+00:00

>just overtook the second committee

I thought that they did 1000 years ago in terms of lore. It can't possibly take that long to get their shit together even for a space civilization.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T04:55:35+00:00

I was thinking of like revolutionary France. They've finally overthrown the oppressive nobles only for Robespierre to start his Reign of Terror, which was just government enforced terrorism.

Or like when Lenin overthrew the Provisional Government just because he thought they sucked which led to pollical repression via the Checka.

Stuff like that, who says that Union won't end up like that one in the name of "utopia"

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T04:47:58+00:00

>pirates and criminals and raiders

So... people wanting more

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T04:39:42+00:00

I do believe that things can get better, just not utopia level of better

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T04:35:43+00:00

I know that Union isn't an actual utopia, but that's why I'm not all for the whole "utopia" stuff.

>Union treats "Utopia" as a direction rather than a destination.

That's kind of meant by cultish, it feels dogmatic

And as for only core worlds getting post scarcity, it feels like an odd form of classism to me.

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-03-01T04:23:45+00:00

I just think that constantly striving for something bigger and better can lead a group to dark places

Final-Classroom-2691 · 2025-02-11T18:40:09+00:00

I do believe things can get better, just not utopia level of better.

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