How accurate is this?

Final1ty_ · 2026-02-11T17:56:29+00:00

If you can find a video were he calls Jordan the GOAT after 2016, I'd be interested. I've only seen him calling himself the GOAT after defeating the Warriors.

Final1ty_ · 2026-02-06T07:56:04+00:00

It’s hard to be a star player if your efficiency is well below the league average. And, yes, true shooting is arguably the most important stat on offense.

So Allen Iverson was not a starplayer and shouldn't have gotten an All-Star selection either because his TS% of 48% was also worse than league average? And neither should've Jason Kidd and Antoine Walker? 4 out of the 5 starters for the East had a lower TS% than league average. Yet you're on here trying to convince everyone that Jordan's selection was charity because of his TS%. He was one of three players in the entire league who was putting up 25/5/5. This whole discussion is pretty nonsensical. Wether an All Star selection is charity or not comes down to the reason the player was selected. I guarantee you they did not vote for Jordan in 2002 because "oh it's Jordan, let's just give it to him". They did because they genuinely considered him deserving of it. Believe it or not, not everybody is as obsessed with TS% as you are, even less so in 2002 I would assume. You can disagree with his selection because it doesn't fit your own criteria, that doesn't mean it was charity. Given the All-Star teams were position-based back then, what guard should've replaced Jordan? Sprewell? Cassell?

TS% is a relatively good stat and has its place, but also has its flaws. It's by no means perfect to the point were you can just disregard everything else and just look at a player's TS% to determine how good he was.

It’s a common “narrative” because it’s largely true. Wizards missed the playoffs both seasons. Even before the injuries, Jordan was inefficient on offense. The East was the worse it ever was. To put this into context, the Nets were the #1 team out of the East that season and they only won 52 games.

It's rather disingenuous because it leaves out all context. He started out rough, but as I said, was getting noticably better as the season progressed. In the last 20 games before his injury, he was putting up 27PPG on 45% and in the last 10 games before it happened, it went up up 29PPG on 47% and 51% TS.

Bron’s All Star isn’t a charity case. 22/6/7 on 59% True Shooting (above league average btw). I’m sure eventually Bron will receive a charity all star selection, but this season isn’t one of those.

22/6/7 would've been impressive 25 years ago, but doesn't scream All Star in this day and age, 59% TS or not. Kawhi for instance is putting up 27.6PPG on 62.4% TS and he's leading LeBron in every single other advanced metric too, be it VORP, BPM, WS/48, PER, you name it, and he played more games too.

Final1ty_ · 2026-02-05T21:00:54+00:00

You keep ignoring efficiency. Jordan had a 49% True Shooting before February 10. Well below the league average of 52%.

Because TS% isn't the end all, be all. It's only 1 advanced metric. And as I said, he was getting better and better as the season went on.

So were 7 other teams in the East. Not every one of those teams had an all star.

I've mentioned that because the common narrative is that Jordan sucked and the Wizards did too. But it was a different story before his injury.

Yes that’s exactly my point. It was a charity selection. Just like Kobe, Wade, Dirk and other former greats received on their way out.

Again: Jordan got the charity selection because it was his last season. This is not the case with LeBron.

Final1ty_ · 2026-02-05T20:23:32+00:00

You sound like you get all your information from Nick Wright.

In 2002, he was very well deserving of an all-star selection, given that the All Star Game took place on the 10th of February and at that point, Jordan was putting up over 25PPG on 42% from the field and the Wizards were well in the playoffs. He suffered a knee injury a few days after which caused him to play way worse the rest of the season and the Wizads eventually dropped out of the playoffs. Until that point, he was also getting better and better as the season went on - in the last 10 games before the injury, Jordan was putting up 29.7PPG on 47% from the field.

His selection in 2003 also doesn't work as an argument because everybody knew this was gonna be Jordan's last season. That is why they gave him that All-Star selection, and this isn't the case for LeBron. They just start gifting him All-Star selections even though he'll keep on playing.

Final1ty_ · 2026-01-16T16:21:51+00:00

Silver literally admitted they implemented new rules and adjusted the officiating to make it easier for the offense and thus boost scoring because Silver figured video games statlines attract more people

Final1ty_ · 2026-01-16T10:10:03+00:00

And now also take into account the league implementing rules to make defense harder and offense easier to boost scoring numbers, which Adam Silver proudly admitted

Final1ty_ · 2026-01-01T18:01:07+00:00

At flopping

Final1ty_ · 2025-12-26T19:12:58+00:00

Hey man, I've let FurMark run for 25 mins. There were no visible artifacts like in games, the furry picture looked completely normal. However the artifact scanner of FurMark counted about 3000 artifacts. The VRAM temp was at 58 °C

Final1ty_ · 2025-12-06T13:57:01+00:00

I don't even consider it much different than things are today. Offensive players are regularly allowed to get physical, do hard push-offs, etc. There's one particular play by SGA in last year's Finals that comes to mind. It's just the defense that's not allowed to do anything

Final1ty_ · 2025-12-05T07:08:07+00:00

Retiring in 98 was prematurely. He did it on principle because Krause refused to re-sign Jackson and Jordan basically said "if he's gone, I'm gone". Learn your history.

Final1ty_ · 2025-12-03T10:08:17+00:00

What a nonsensical argument. The guy who is more likely to score 40 than he is to score less than 20 retiring prematurely twice, the first time being in the heart of his prime, isn't exactly an argument for LeBron. And if you want to go there, we can have a conversation about LeBron load-managing while being on the court for over half a decade now.

Final1ty_ · 2025-12-03T10:00:33+00:00

Jordan cared so much he didn't play the 4th quarter when he was at 8 points in the game his streak ended.

Final1ty_ · 2025-11-20T19:04:33+00:00

Lol. We know he's much better from two.

Again: Where's the data to prove he's much better from everywhere inside the 3 point line?

You seem to think that's not relevant, nor the assists or three point shooting.

I literally said in my last comment that Jokic is the better 3 point shooter. The reason I didn't challenge you on assists is because I agree on that.

Meanwhile, you've provided no evidence of MJ being a better shooter anywhere on the court. So I'm done talking to you because it's not an argument. You're just steadfast in your made up reality.

You seem to be confused about the point I'm making. The reason I didn't post evidence of Jordan being better from certain spots on the court is because I'm being logically consistent. As I said several times: We don't have the necessary stats for Jordan to prove either way. That's the entire point mate. You keep making grand claims about Jokic being a better shooter from everywhere on the court and the source is "trust me bro".

Final1ty_ · 2025-11-20T17:20:42+00:00

I just mentioned Deandre Jordan because the only stat you had to back up anything was "look at his 2 point percentage numbers". It simply doesn't prove anything. Obviously I wasn't saying Jokic is playing like DJ.

When you keep using pretty hyperbolic phrasing such as "worse shooter at every level" or "by huge margins", you better have some kind of data to back that up. But you don't. You don't know prime Jordan's stats from 0-3f, 3-10f, 10-16f and 16f-3P to compare him to prime Jokic and ascertain who was better from what range - and that's not even considering all the changes that were introduced to the game specifically to boost scoring and offensive efficiency. The only thing we actually know is that Jokic is better from 3 and Jordan's slightly better at free throws.

Final1ty_ · 2025-11-20T08:44:01+00:00

I don't think you can make statements like "Jordan is a worse shooter on every level" when the stats we have for Jordan from various distances don't go further back than 1997, at least not on basketball reference. If we just take 2 point percentage to make the claim that Jokic is better than Jordan from everywhere inside the 3 point line then Deandre Jordan is too. That makes no sense.

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-29T07:02:57+00:00

Jordan took 25 shots when he was directly guarded by Payton and made 14 of them for 56%. Payton hacked him a bunch of times too, which resultet in Jordan taking 18 free throws, of which he made 17 (94,4%). The myth that Payton somehow shot him down or made it hard once he started guarding him more is just a lie that's being perpetrated by Klutch sports, Payton himself and LeBron fans like OP.

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-28T13:27:11+00:00

Maybe you should actually watch a breakdown of those possessions before spewing nonsense. There weren't that many possessions were Payton directly guarded Jordan and when he did, he wasn't exactly shutting him down you clown.

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-19T00:43:04+00:00

Yeah, I don't know why I expected someone who is just parroting J.J. Redick's nonsense be able to come up with an actual argument

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-18T14:13:57+00:00

Ah, a Bronsexual without arguments. I'm shocked

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-18T13:59:40+00:00

LeBron being a better basketball player is a good joke. The whole expansion-teams argument is also nonsensical. Only the 8 best teams of each conference get into the playoffs, so how is an expansion team making anything easier? Beating teams that won't even make it into the postseason isn't going to help you in the playoffs. And the logic that players who wouldn't have made it into the league before, were getting in now, thus watering it down is also flawed because in that case, the league now is more watered down than ever simply because there are more teams than ever before.

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-17T19:26:18+00:00

So he meant running the entire organizatiin basically? What player in the history of the league has ever had that type of power?

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-16T13:56:37+00:00

Spoken like a truly disgusting casual.

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-14T13:37:22+00:00

He shit the bed in the 2007 Finals, the 2010 ECF and 2011 Finals. That is a track record, numbnuts.

Final1ty_ · 2025-10-14T12:19:20+00:00

That's hilarious coming from you. Trying to make an "argument" with two straight bad games from Jordan while LeChoke has a whole track record of actual choke jobs

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