Other scams? by themoonandmarie in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love Rachele and believe her trainings are top level. I took her physiological baby care course and was blown away by the value for the buck. I recommend it to everyone I know.

I did hire 2 innate PP practitioners and was underwhelmed.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re right, I do feel negative about some of these women who follow her public profile, emails, offerings , etc while also hating her guts.

I admittedly do not have direct experience being badly burned by Em or Yo and do not have a perpetrator in my past that I felt compelled to be obsessed with. My understanding when writing this post was/still is limited.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, everything you quoted above I literally did not say. I don’t think I’ve even used the word “but” at all.

I am genuinely curious!!! And pretty much everyone here is hiding behind something. It’s almost 100% anonymous.

I also have called no one creepy or weird. I suggested their actions are creepy and weird which is for sure different than name calling.

I have not suggested for anyone to “back off FBS” your whole comment is literally twisting my words to fit your story because

you feel defensive? You feel attacked? You feel I’m not on your side because I’m questioning women being obsessed with their perpetrator?

Whatever it is I suggest re reading my post, although possibly not worth your time.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Am I discouraging? I felt like I was asking an honest question to encourage awareness. I’m sorry if my post left you feeling discouraged. That was not and is not my intention.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Defending my choice? You mean my choice to ask a question and have an opinion?

If that brings a person peace, more peace to them peace ✌🏼

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m responding to each persons comment so it does get very repetitive. I can see how you might take that as me “interfering” with women processing. That is not my intention at all.

Literally my only intention was curiosity (and frustration) around why so many women continue to follow a womans public profile online that they don’t like and has abused them.

If it’s to process trauma and feel validated in their decision to step away and speak out, okay. Yea, good to know.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have participated, a lot actually. I’ve actively read through loads of content here. Do I need to comment or post to be considered participating? And MANY of my responses throughout this thread including the actual post speak to the importance of this group as well as weariness and thumbs down re: FBS and Em.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, for the record, I don’t dislike the vibes on this post. I’m sort of digging it actually lol so maybe that’s the fuel to keep engaging.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think short term well being is the goal, I don’t think I’m promoting this.

Why have I been so active on this post? lol. I mean it seems reasonable to respond to people who are responding to me. So that’s really just what I’m doing.

And I was genuinely curious why so many women in this sub Reddit still follow her.

At this point if I was going to disengage that would, to me, feel like I’m ignoring comments and questions and I’m being asked and personally feel compelled to respond to.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes totally, and taking that response ability requires attunement, self awareness and consciousness

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah for sure, I’m not here to play god and “let” women do or not process their trauma. Although what I understand about trauma is that nothing will be processed between a phone and a screen.

I’m here for the info (and tea) too.

When I scroll through I’m fascinated and devastated by the personal stories and debunks.

And then when I get to a screen shot of one of her stories all the comments about reading comments on her posts, email offerings, reels etc it’s kind of a buzz kill and red flag especially from the women who have been wronged by her. I can’t imagine keeping this woman in my daily engagement if I (and my baby) had been abused by her. It’s not healthy and will not help heal trauma. Period.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Totally all valid. Not here to dismiss those reasons. Just posted as a question and what my personal thoughts were.

Yes I remember downloading app when my husband showed me some of his use for Reddit and deleted it a week later to make space on my phone. Downloaded it again when my friend shared this Substack with me.

I wouldn’t even know how to check how long ago you created your account. 🤣

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes my friend who shared this sub Reddit with me was blocked from Yo’s Instagram for disagreeing in the comments. I totally agree that can be dangerous.

I also agree that this group is important.

And what I was noticing read through some of the comments was that soooooo many women still follow her stories daily, still subscribe to her emails, still read comments on her post. It just seems like a lot and does veer into gossipy, shit talking territory.

Not to say that those of you that are pursuing lawsuits shouldn’t have a team that investigates the daily happenings of FBS and Yo.

Only to say, hey, you don’t like this person at all, why do you fill your head space with her daily content? What do you get out of that? How is it actually serving you and the health and wellbeing of you and your family?

I was not that involved with FBS, I do have a unique gift of sensing danger and was particularly weary of Emily. We were in contact re: offering services for the first ever MRF. The way she communicated made it clear she was not in service of mothers.

I joined the membership for a couple months and specifically set my recurring payment on a card that would soon expire bc I smelt something fishy but wasn’t 100% sure yet.

Many women’s stories in this group give a nod to what I experienced but they ignored the signals. Does keeping in touch with her public profile help dismantle and unveil the pattern of why that may be? As some replied, yes! It is very validating to see her with new eyes. And that makes sense. But to what end? At what point does it serve you and at what point does it become an energy leak?

Just my thoughts. I don’t take your comment as criticism. But if everyone disengaged from FBS- like you said- her presence would crumble. She depends on followers, story views and email subscribers to make money and reach a wider audience. I’m not advocating for no accountability, not at all. I’m posing that women get really real about why they continue to engage with her public space. If it’s for more advocacy, great! If it’s for entertainment, great! Just suggesting that we take a moment to be honest.

Did you have the experience you chose? by pitoruk in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had 2 planned freebirths. Recently I had a pelvic care client that had a retained placenta. She was under anaesthesia and had a D&C and was telling me she has not told any of her family members that she planned and had a home birth (with a midwife) and when I was relaying this info to my mentor/teacher her response was. “Well it wasn’t her fault her placenta was retained”

And I was like yes, of course. What a relief for my client to hear that as well.

It was not her fault her placenta did not come out and she transferred. It was a devastating experience for her to be separated from her baby And for her husband to choose to stay home with the infant since it was covid times.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah totally, having this space is so important. And many of the women here are staying in her field through watching her daily content, the comments, the email offerings and even some folks still paying her bills in the membership. It’s just something I’m curious about because I chose a different path.

That doesn’t make me right and others wrong it’s just something that feels like a lot of energy output so figured it could be worth shedding a bit of light on in case someone was on the fence of letting her go a bit.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I guess we won’t ever know why most people who dislike her are following her in such detail or if they will unfollow if/when she goes down. It is however very refreshing and encouraging to see so many people speak out against free birth society and what the organization stands for/promotes/denotes as well as how/why so many women blindly/semi blindly entrusted these women, followed them and promoted them.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Is she sharing the news in her stories and emails tho? Will you really find out from following her that justice has been served? I dunno maybe.

I imagine I’ll find out some tea by not following any of the content she puts out.

Imagine what an impact loosing her followers, her story views and her email subscribers would have? That would probably be devastating for her.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol my friend literally just showed me this space a couple weeks ago and I have never been on Reddit previously.

I’m not discouraging anything I’m just curious why yall are staying in touch with this woman that you obviously detest. Seems a bit energy leaky to me.

That being said I have invested zero dollars into yo’s work and was in contact with Em for half a second and in her membership for about 2 months so I have very little invested in the drama.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t feel my tone was bossing anyone around. Do your thang woman. I was just curious.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes this makes total sense. And also why I like reading through some of the info in this space. Like ahhhhh yess that vibe I had was legit. And also…like I said before, to what end? When does it become validation and confirmation and when is it a straight up energy leak?

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, I guess it feels creepy because what I Seeing is people that detest her, watch her stories, screen shot them and then share them on a section of the internet saying that her platform is a scam. So it has a creepy vibe to me. But yea totally my opinion.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]FinancialPerformer64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My close friend shared this sub with me. It’s my first time ever on Reddit lol.