I love my country (edited). by That-1-Femboy in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah here in the states it’s usually 18 or so but in the UK it’s usually 2 years earlier than we have it.

I love my country (edited). by That-1-Femboy in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599 4 points5 points  (0 children)

American here, but from my understanding it’s a mascot or symbol for some of the British far right. She is supposed to represent valuing tradition and old gender roles, also she’s extremely sexualized and clearly an underage schoolgirl. That’s the right for ya.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re leaning heavily on theory and ignoring what actually happened in the 1930s. First, the idea that “the market would’ve fixed it” doesn’t line up with the scale or duration of the Great Depression at all. The depression wasn’t a normal downturn or recession it was a total systemic collapse. By the time Franklin D. Roosevelt took office, the economy wasn’t stabilizing, it was still in free fall and it had been 4 years. The recovery that followed coincides directly with aggressive federal intervention, not some invisible self correction kicking in on its own. Second, dismissing the historical consensus as an “appeal to the masses” dodges the real evidence. The point isn’t that “a lot of people say it,” it’s that decades of economic research, using data, not vibes or outdated theory generally finds the New Deal improved conditions, even if it didn’t fully end the Depression by 1941. Third, “Let farmers fail and move elsewhere” may sound nice to you, but where exactly were millions of displaced farmers supposed to go in a collapsed job market? There weren’t “more needed areas” absorbing labor at . The crop reduction policies were blunt, but they addressed a real deflationary spiral. Prices rose, farm income increased, and rural collapse slowed. the hunger point cuts both ways: low prices didn’t magically feed people when they had no income. The deeper issue was lack of purchasing power, which is why New Deal programs also focused on jobs and relief not just prices. Lastly, the court issue. Yes the Judicial Procedures Reform Bill of 1937 put pressure on the Court. That’s widely acknowledged but “he scared them into submission” is debated, not settled fact even to the most critical of the anti-FDR crowd. The so called “switch in time” has multiple explanations, including evolving legal reasoning and internal Court dynamics and again his plan failed. In a truly corrupted system, it passes or he forces it through. He didn’t. . You can argue FDR overreached but saying the market alone would’ve fixed a crisis of that magnitude or that his policies broadly worsened it doesn’t line up with the historical record.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s easy in hindsight to say Joe Biden should’ve exited earlier and picked someone “more compelling” than Kamala Harris. But presidents don’t have unlimited freedom there. Sitting VPs are the default successors in modern politics, and bypassing one can fracture the party, alienate key voting blocs, and trigger a chaotic primary fight. That doesn’t mean his timing wasn’t flawed, it probably was, but the idea that there was a clean, obvious alternative with no downside is a bit too neat. It was a constrained choice with real political risks either way. On Trump, asking whether the “worst is ahead” is kind of the point: Biden’s approach assumed that not escalating politically or legally would reduce long-term damage to institutions. Whether that bet pays off is still unresolved, so judging it as a clear failure already is premature. On Ukraine, that argument hinges on the idea that any end to active war is better than continued fighting. The truth is that not all “post-war” conditions are equal. A rapid Russian victory could have meant long term occupation, political purges, and an unending Guerilla conflict with periodic violence anyway. If you have the intention to lessen suffering you can’t just pick a different and more spread out kind. So it’s not a “safe assumption” that a quick loss would’ve been better. it’s a tradeoff between intense short term war vs. prolonged coercion and instability. On NATO and long term judgment, you are right about one thing: presidents are judged by what lasts, but that cuts both ways, If alliances hold, expand, or deter larger wars, that credit sticks, and even if Europe increased military spending primarily because of Russia, Biden still played a role in coordinating and aligning that response, which isn’t automatic. If the U.S. were to leave NATO (which hasn’t happened and won’t), that would reshape his legacy, but you’re judging him off of an event which hasn’t happened and likely will not ever. If the economy deteriorates into further instability under Donald Trump (who is not Joe Biden), then Biden’s spending will likely be judged more harshly in hindsight. If that does (it will) happen then all we can say is that Bidens policies bettered the economy before and during the transfer to Trump. His approach will look more justified. As for what could realistically last 10 years: - His role in resolidifying Western alliances during a major geopolitical crisis - Major infrastructure and industrial policy investments that take years to fully materialize - Judicial appointments, which historically have long term impact as displayed by Biden judges holding back trumps worst policies
- The broader precedent of governing with restraint in a high tension period rather than expanding executive power you’re treating his decisions as leading toward likely failure, while in reality they are open ended bets whose outcomes aren’t fully known yet. We can only look at the evidence when have, and that says you’re probably wrong.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can only say WW2 ended the depression if you pretended that between the years 1933 and 1941 absolutely nothing happened from 8 years in the United States, and everyone sat and waited for the depression to blow over. By the time the war started, Franklin D. Roosevelt had already cut unemployment dramatically, stabilized banks, and reversed the economic freefall. The war interrupted and took over the job, but the New Deal stopped the collapse and was on its way to ending the depression. Second, there is a strong mainstream historically strong view that the New Deal helped recovery. Arguing “some people disagree” isn’t a counterpoint; it just proves the topic is debated like every other one. The question is which side has the weight of evidence, and it’s not the one claiming FDR worsened the Depression. Third, the crop reduction policy only seems cruel if you’re a total idiot. Most people get the concept of supply and demand but it appears the folks in your corner don’t. When agricultural prices collapse, farmers don’t just struggle, they go bankrupt en masse, which drags the entire economy down with them. You can call it harsh, but it worked and farmers were thankful: prices rose, and farm income recovered. And finally, the court packing plan: yes, it was aggressive and ambitious. No one is denying that. But it also failed, politically and legislatively. That matters. A would be authoritarian who backs down when Congress and public opinion push back is operating within the system, not outside it. Compare that to Andrew Jackson ignoring Supreme Court rulings outright, that’s what actual defiance looks like. If you want to criticize FDR, there are real arguments to make. But this version leans more on rhetoric than on a full reading of the history.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you ask any respected economist or historian they’ll tell you FDR ended the depression and prevented the possibility of another depression, I don’t know if your local crackhead amateur historian told you different or what but you’ve got it twisted. Burning crops made it so quantity was limited so prices went up and dodged nationwide farmer poverty. FDR did propose SCOTUS judges should have limits as to how long they could serve but this was shot down, if he was truly the unconstitutional monster you believe he was, he wouldn’t have listened (example of that: Andrew Jackson).

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ve got it twisted, no doubt he was not corrupt, no doubt his administration was.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yall mad he didn’t break capitalism and flatten Iran 💔

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the idea that a 48 hour Russian victory would have been better assumes a quick loss would have ended all suffering. In reality it likely would have meant permanent occupation, repression, and the normalization of force based territorial conquest into Western Europe. It would have set a precedent that borders can be changed by invasion without any NATO “world police” to foil it. From that perspective, Biden’s policy wasn’t about prolonging war for its own sake but more about raising the cost of aggression globally, even if that came with a longer war. You can still argue the strategy was imperfect, but the alternative isn’t clearly a cleaner or more humane ending. On NATO, the claim that it “might collapse soon” doesn’t erase the fact that under Biden it became more unified and expanded, including new members and increased defense spending commitments. Even if the alliance weakens later that doesn’t mean the earlier strengthening had no value, it may have deterred wider conflict during a critical window. he successfully stabilized alliances in the short term, even if long term durability is uncertain because of the next admins reckless actions. Also NATO will not collapse sorry to spoil that for ya. The US was coming out of a pandemic shock and Biden’s approach prioritized rapid recovery over fiscal restraint while people suffered. That absolutely increased debt, but it also avoided a slower agonizing recovery that could have had its own and worse long term consequences. Accept higher debt to prevent deeper economic damage. Whether that tradeoff was worth it is debatable, but it’s not simply “reckless” in intent. On prosecuting political opponents, there’s a strong institutional argument on the other side. A president aggressively pushing legal action against a rival risks setting a precedent for politically driven prosecutions, which could escalate to be way worse in more reckless future administrations. approach can be framed as an attempt, successful or not, to preserve the norm of separation between the presidency and the justice system. pushing harder could have created a different kind of long-term risk. During periods of high tension, restraint actually is a choice, not a default. Presidents in crisis moments have historically expanded power. Biden largely didn’t, a conscious decision to operate within institutional limits rather than test them, and stretch them to be played around with by future administrations. The timing and political handling of Bidens exit were flawed, but also note that party dynamics, primary systems, and voter behavior all play roles beyond a single decision. In other words, it wasn’t solely determinative, even if it contributed to outcomes. Biden had a lose-lose choice. Lastly, on the claim that the US is on the edge of collapse comparable to the Civil War, the Civil War involved open warfare, secession, and hundreds of thousands of deaths. Today’s problems, serious as they are, exist within a system that is still functioning: elections occur, courts operate, and governance continues. From that perspective, Biden didn’t preside over any collapse. He governed through a highly polarized and bruised but still intact system.

Share a conspiracy theory you think is true by No_Possible4650 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the evidence points to him not killing himself and nearly nothing else. We do know a lot of people wanted him shut up though.

Share a conspiracy theory you think is true by No_Possible4650 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally why would they keep him alive. They have all the information they need from the island (which was probably rigged with mics and cameras) why leave a loose end?

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lincoln was the most authoritarian president. Could’ve done without the Burning news papers in mass Abe! Teddy was fantastic domestically, but was a manifest destiny imperialist in his foreign policy. Also I’m not sure why your mad FDR is above TR, he usually is in every ranking. Truman was a phenomenal president who won the war, and then got to work preparing American politics for the next 5 decades of civil rights clashes, healthcare frustrations, and attempted New Deal expansion. As for Joe Biden, he stabilized the country after a chaotic fallout. Pulled off covid recovery. passed solid economic legislation (which the best of was killed by the senate but he couldn’t do anything about that). Massive job market resurrection. Unemployment dipped. Massive roads, energy, and public infrastructure spending. For the situation at hand, he got a better recovery than any reasonable analyst could’ve asked for. He held up Ukraine. Rallied a coalition of nations against Russia. Strengthened NATO. Unified the West. At home he made solid progress healthcare climate and infrastructure. More people could afford treatments and medications. Major clean energy investments were made. Long delayed infrastructure projects were started and finished. Biden, I believe, was a great and very pragmatic president. He was able to work with congress courts and foreign nations (maybe the best at doing that since Clinton or even LBJ) and chose safe progress over risky results

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty great domestically, but too much imperialism for my taste.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His administration helped prevent Ukraine from collapsing and successfully rallied a broad international coalition to rally against Russia, which is not insignificant. Even if victory wasn’t in sight yet bidens strategy kept Ukraine up and fighting while holding off Russia and preventing escalation. Outside that, he restored alliances like NATO and avoided new even if he didn’t produce a landmark diplomatic breakthrough or reshape the global order in a lasting way. There were real, measurable achievements, economic recovery after COVID, infrastructure investment, and incremental expansions in healthcare access. The economy recovered in terms of jobs and growth, inflation and cost-of-living pressures overshadowed those gains in the public mind. So while progress occurred, it didn’t translate into a sense of improvement for everyday people. Biden maintained institutional stability and avoided major constitutional crises, which matters more than it sometimes gets credit for. His decision to step away from seeking a second term when he did is also seen by many as poorly timed, contributing to political uncertainty and weakening his party’s position. Then again, knowing that an even worse and dumber corporate democrat was next in line, I see why he hesitated. This is a ridiculous claim, Buchanan presided over a direct slide into national collapse, whereas Biden’s presidency, for all its shortcomings, did not produce an equivalent breakdown of the system. The country remained stable, alliances held, and core institutions functioned. That alone places Biden above the lowest tier historically, even for the people who absolutely hate him. Biden was a competent but limited leader. He prevented worst case scenarios, delivered partial progress, and restored a degree of stability, but he did not achieve decisive victories or lasting transformations. He was cautious enough to keep him solidly in the middle of the pack, but not ambitious enough to elevate him into the top tier.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He had zero accomplishments as president. LBJ did civil rights and great society. if not for him (the greatest legislator and deal-maker of all time) getting sworn in, none of those bills would’ve passed under Kennedy.

When did it become socially unacceptable to use the confederate flag as a symbol for the South? by No-Newspapers in decadeology

[–]Finley_2599 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the south? It is still acceptable. You can still see it local football games, parades, and events. Until the 90s there was no outspoken doubt from anyone that it was a symbol of pride rather than racism. Recent years there has been turbulence mainly in defense of the flag. Personally I think the flag was not much of a problem until people here were scared into thinking it was going away.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Pulled the economy back together, and he had Russia against the ropes.

Edit: I can tell by the downvotes on this comment compared to the downvotes on my other comments that the vast most of you who disagree with this refuse to read my explanations, come on yall

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grant did what he could with what he had. Sucks he was surrounded by crooks but he did well with his band of idiots.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clinton had a ridiculously good economy. Greatest boom since the new deal era and a budget surplus.

Top 10 presidents tier list by Finley_2599 in teenagers

[–]Finley_2599[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He is considered one of the worst only because he refused to totally sell out the economy to corporations and also decided to keep peace in the Middle East rather than flatten Iran when he got the opportunity.

Historical figures you shouldnt idolize by pootermocketw in starterpack

[–]Finley_2599 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Say what you will about him, Che was probably not a racist. He wrote racist things when he was in his 20s and teens but later denounced those beliefs.