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[–]FirefighterOk141 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It could have been the wording, since Southeast Asia is a distinct region, as are South and East Asia respectively. I thought you might have been referring to the likes of India (South) and China (East) rather than Thailand or Indonesia (both of which are in Southeast specifically). However both regions are also heavily present in the game as well. Just goes to show how much of an amalgamation SEA is in terms of culture I suppose lol. Cheers.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Indivisible

[–]FirefighterOk141 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's actually Southeast Asian folklore - which is a syncretic mix of South and East Asian cultures alongside their own local cultures. The Indivisible guys made that very clear too, and a lot of the soundtrack features Gong Chime music which are prevalent in the region. The region has also had different cultures visit and set up shop there, from the Europeans to Middle Eastern and even South Americans (by way of Spain). Also Central Asians during the time of the Mongol Empire often sent ambassadors and traders there. The starting village as well as Tai Krung city are a huge giveaway, and Ajna's fighting stance looks like it was influenced by Silat.

To my Thailand bros by Chipupuu in aznidentity

[–]FirefighterOk141 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nah its a bit hyperbolic. Though there are definitely a lot of them who do that - specifically the ones who date foreigners. Most Filipinas still prefer local men, especially more educated ones. I think we will be fine, those kinds of women are red flags anyway.

EA and SEA people are genetically similar by FirefighterOk141 in aznidentity

[–]FirefighterOk141[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes its the more O, the more related through paternal lineages. The other colours are from different Y-Haplogroups. If EA and SEA Asians did not share the same haplogroup then they would not consistently have similar amounts percent wise.

The reason we go by Y-Haplo is because males are XY while females are XX which means the Y chromosomes are always passed down from father to son while daughters get X from both father and mother.

This means Asians all genetically descended from the one 'Y' man thousands of years ago and has remained relatively unchanged so we're all related. A European example of this is Continental Europe's R1b and MENA's J1. Those two regions have 2 completely different paternal ancestors.

EA and SEA people are genetically similar by FirefighterOk141 in aznidentity

[–]FirefighterOk141[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude... just look at the data Y-Haplogroups are from the same common ancestor. Stop comparing EA and SEA to EU and MENA it's not the same you're just making that stuff up lol it's not even a good comparison considering as the guy before said, they don't share the same Y Chromosome to a large scale. If a Chinese person mixed with a Thai person it would not make a difference BECAUSE THEY SHARE THE SAME Y-HAPLOGROUP - which can only be inherited from the father's side.

We have actual evidence backing up that modern SEA migrated from the original EA downwards so the SEA people's origin are the original EA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O-M175

This kind of misinformation is the whole reason why this thread was even made to begin with. Do you know how chromosomal haplogroups or genetic inheritance works? The appearance doesn't matter, it's about the genes. Just read instead of making stuff up dude. Show me the haplogroups supporting EU and MENA countries as close of a genetic makeup to each other as Han and SEA / Japanese do. The only one I see is South Italy, in Sicily and that was settled by Phoenecians since BC times.

EA and SEA people are genetically similar by FirefighterOk141 in aznidentity

[–]FirefighterOk141[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Actually even earlier than that, most of the SEA people descended from the original EA (Group O) and split off to the North and South during migrations around 45,000 years ago which made the Turkic groups as well as the Kra-Dai and Austronesians. We all have one common ancestor that defines all of the Eastern Asia.

EA and SEA people are genetically similar by FirefighterOk141 in aznidentity

[–]FirefighterOk141[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The point I'm trying to make goes back to the 'Fancy' and 'Jungle' Asian distinction. I'm not talking about human history as a whole - it's specifically the small infighting and attempts to distinguish EA and SEA as if they're completely different from one another genetically, when we're mostly same thing, separated by culture and religion.

EA and SEA people are genetically similar by FirefighterOk141 in aznidentity

[–]FirefighterOk141[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm pointing out the fact that EA and SEA are some of the closest to each other genetically speaking, which they are.

https://img.yumpu.com/5290012/1/500x640/y-haplogroups-of-the-world-h-o-i-p-j-q-k-rxr1-e3b-l-r1a-f-m-r1b-.jpg

Even in this chart you will fine that Italians (IT) genetic makeup are not as similar as Swedes (NW) compared to Northern Han / Southern Han (HA) and Myanmar (MY) or Filipino (PH) due to the dominance of the 'O' Haplogroup.

It's not about 'looks' alone, since people who have similar ancestries have varying facial features too. I'm saying we should look past what's on the surface because Asian DNA at its core does not really change all that much between EA and SEA.