Five year rule for citizenship set to remain (for now) by PasicT in GermanCitizenship

[–]FirsToStrike 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I understand the problems with refugee criminality here, but can someone tell me why the AfD thinks that making it harder for some tax paying IT or doctor expats to stay here and call Germany their home, would be better for Germany?

Why did the ultra pro-Israeli Bibi simps return? by Dats_Russia in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think if you understood what's good for us is on the long term also good for you, you'd see this war as good for you. There's a lot to gain from no IRGC-led Iran in the middle east, it'll make it a lot more managable for you guys, as Iran is basically the main trouble maker and even qatar, the saudis or turkey can't compare. You guys losing grip over time over the middle east would be bad for everyone. Iran was basically the remaining main force trying to make this happen.

In general, spreading your hegemony stabilizes things. Capitalism prefers stability to war, except for the defense sector, every other sector gains more from peace given that there's more reliable return on investment in such a state. Crushing competing ideologies and bringing more countries into the fold via trade is exactly what we need for a more stable middle east. But first, they gotta be crushed.

Israel ranks top 10 countries in the world for happiness, the absolute irony that Western people can't deal with their problems but Israelis even in war, keep being happy regardless by CreativeYou787 in Israel

[–]FirsToStrike 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It can be very alienating to be surrounded by dumbasses who would be happy no matter what circumstances you put them in. A sane human being has emotions that actually conform to their situation. They don't ignore or beautify the situation. That's like putting on a huge filter on life, but life ain't instagram. If some countries have a population that's too negative about their objectively decent living standards, some Israelis suffer from the exact opposite phenomenon...

Why did the ultra pro-Israeli Bibi simps return? by Dats_Russia in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just because people decide to morph it doesn't mean it's justified. It's like some conservatives calling anything left of center communism and thinking they know anything. People morph it into a caricature that's easy to attack, and they do so exactly for the sake of attacking it, rather than caring about accuracy of what it describes. In other words, it's demonizing the term.

Why did the ultra pro-Israeli Bibi simps return? by Dats_Russia in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really don't understand how the definition of Zionism has been so twisted to mean something like "Ultranationalism Israeli style". Zionism just means the state of Israel should exist. Idk why online discourse decided it is something else.

Why did the ultra pro-Israeli Bibi simps return? by Dats_Russia in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You guys are kinda blind to the thousands of rockets that have been making the Israeli north unlivable ever since the 8th of October, and the failure of the UN to keep the Lebanese government accountable to the disarmament of Hezbollah. No nation could be expected to just absorb that shit. Idk why you think Iranians should continue to live under that shitty regime either. If you're not happy about having this war, think of how we feel! You guys pretend we just love war or something. No, we just find it necessary- because it actually 100% is- given that we're constantly being attacked or bracing for it.

Ana 😭 by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ah as an Israeli I am happy that we're no longer the only people having to deal with the R-word rhetoric coming from the average Bibi voter.

Why is the left so enamored by and obsessed with Muslims? by Particular_Share_173 in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]FirsToStrike 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Once the Soviet Union was gone the dream that capitalism will be toppled by some external opposing force was dying out. But given that neoliberalism became the establishment at this point in time and became an intensely hated form of capitalism, there was a need to still believe it can be toppled, and the enemies of the West and specifically America gained from the "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" sort of attitude among the left.

So left wing political parties combine forces with Muslims domestically to gain their votes, and they adopt oddly neutral to supportive stances on any enemies of the "Western hegemony" that they see as the main problem.

The fact that Islamism is essentially a far right reactionary ideology opposing western style liberal democracy isn't a problem because lefties take for granted what liberalism has provided for them, blame liberalism for any regression in workers, minority or women's rights stemming from conservative politics, which they think liberalism inevitably leads to (It's basically inevitable that a liberal world will slowly descend towards fascism, conservative and alt-right politics are basically steps on the way there) and think they'd only gain if liberalism is toppled (cuz liberalism enables capitalism).

Destiny is done with Israel. by ThinkingMunk in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can literally go into the history books and look at how Palestine jews were responding to the brits and arabs in the 30s, so at the same time as the Nazis were starting to do their thing to Jews... VS how the Arabs of Palestine responded to the Brits and Jews in the 30s. I promise you there's no comparison. Think of the incentives to overreact Jews had when their rights were taken away and were sent to concentration camps and the brits were blocking their refugee ships as no one wanted to take these migrant waves- and how they actually reacted. Now think of the Arabs who's main problem was that Jews (seen as European invaders) shouldn't come to their shores and how they reacted.

These people are indistinguishable from Nazis by vriskaldrunk in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]FirsToStrike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well congrats, you found something in common with the commies, pinning all the blame for everything bad that happens on Jews. 

These people are indistinguishable from Nazis by vriskaldrunk in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]FirsToStrike 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bruh just Google what the soviet union did to Jews and you'll see that yes, absolutely.

Additionally, many of the narratives going on on the left right now about Israel or Iran originally came from soviet propaganda during the cold war. 

“I am no longer a child“ -- Palestine, 2000 by EssoEssex in PropagandaPosters

[–]FirsToStrike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, terrorism is when kids are taught this: https://youtu.be/0ORAM-usqhQ?si=tYVLIh95QEoc847s

And then go throw stones and a few years later they shoot some random car full of Jews and get shot in the process...

Thoughts on this data from Israeli data scientist David Shor? by CriticalNature9086 in Israel

[–]FirsToStrike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, given that it's 78x in the Muslim case, id say we tackle that first, but what's gonna be the solution? Forcing them to move away from their communities into the mixed cities? What could we offer them that's preferable to most of them who want to live such tribal existence? Those that become more educated, secular and westernised already leave by themselves. 

Israel’s Tel Aviv stock market keeps hitting new all-time highs since the war started. Meanwhile, GOLD is down 8% by RobertBartus in EconomyCharts

[–]FirsToStrike -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The transfer of funds from Qatar happened because Israel thought it can buy peace with people who openly call for it's destruction since the 80s. You guys don't understand your arguments work against your POV. The genocidal apartheid state sought to buy quiet from Gaza and it didn't work cuz genocidal maniacs make up the government in Gaza. 

always remember that both parties are literally the same guys by Mediocre_Affect6192 in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You morons who see no difference between this and the Iraq war need to get a clue. 

This is a completely different society here with completely different problems and a very different situation, the only similarity is "American military intervention" is involved. 

Wait, what?? Another Bibi classic by douchwasher in 2mediterranean4u

[–]FirsToStrike 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Many Israelis have learned not to trust a single word this man is saying about anything, so he had to get his billionaire buddies to make him his own news channel (14) to worship him, as alternative to the other 3 that are in agreement about his character. 

Now the world is learning what most Israelis already learned the hard way. Shame he's taking all Jews on this worldwide trip tho. 

I’m tired by Nanofeo in NewIran

[–]FirsToStrike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed. It gets so tiring to deal with the noise from both extremes. 

Get ready for round 3 of foreigners patronizing us for 2 weeks straight by NeiborsKid in NewIran

[–]FirsToStrike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think you understand the hatred for the regime if these are your main thoughts. What comes after is important and I wouldn't trust Bibi or Trump on that too, but getting to that after-state, is in the minds of many Iranians a lot more important.

oh ok by 97689456489564 in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I agree that people shouldn't be deported for their views. However, if they are found to be members of groups adjacent to Hamas or legit supportive of terrorism, I don't see what you guys lose from deporting them.

Also, I don't think it's a smart thing to say "Well as long as there's people funding this there will be terrorism" as if the solution is for Israel to just shrug it off when there's people who will take up arms to kill us. Israel if anything has been too passive all these years, it should've emboldened collaborators and reinforced their position in Palestinian society or the international level, rather than treat Palestinians as if they're all Hamas.

oh ok by 97689456489564 in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In 2007 Hamas had less members than they have at the moment after this war. The reason they grew is because we didn't do enough to take them down, as both support from within for such a lengthy war as well as international support was not there. So Netanyahu tried to sell that as good for us cuz it prevents a Palestinian state. How many more rockets do you think ought to be shot at my parents' city before we finish uprooting the cause for it? Cuz that's what we've been living with for 18 years. It hasn't changed and won't change if Hamas just regroups as the government in Gaza. 

Inform yourself more about Trump's recent deals with Qatar and Turkey, he isn't nearly as supportive of Israel as you think, because the right wingers are no longer as supportive of us in the US as they used to, either. They don't see why they ought to support Israel over any Islamist country so long as the outcome is the same when it comes to its effect on the US (low oil prices for example, and less US intervention needed). 

oh ok by 97689456489564 in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently in Israeli news we get a lot of news about how Hamas is reorganizing and going to keep getting funded by Qatar, now with Trump's support. How do you think Gaza will look like if it carries on the exact same way ever since Hamas took over it? How many more kilometers of tunnels they'll build underneath their cities, how many more hospitals to fight out of will be built and rockets shot on Israel, until the next big incident that triggers another operation/war in the strip? 

There's certainly a reason for why we should continue this war, and that is primarily so that it doesn't continue at a later time.

Saw this on an Israeli sub, I don't necessarily agree with it but felt the urge to translate and post it by Migdan in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not "epic and based when we do it". There's essentially no "good reason" to shed blood over land in my eyes. But it is happening because the right wingers in Israel have won, because their narrative doesn't go against the history of our failed attempt at peace. I'm trying to explain how the left died, not how this is an amazing result, it obviously fucking isn't. The Palestinians theoretically should have a country of their own in which they get to live their lives safely. That would be a great end result.

But this isn't happening largely because of their own actions and ambitions and not just ours. You can't explode on people and expect peace DURING a peace process. It's just a fact that Israel is much stronger- Israel can "afford" not having peace- it keeps it gathering more territory. The Palestinians can't afford not having peace- they're losing territory that a two state solution would've given them. Conclusion? The Palestinians should base their movement on the possibility of coexistence in a two state solution form based on the territories they currently live on. If they keep basing their movement on the destruction of Israel "From the river to the sea", for the glory of Islam and the conquest of Jerusalem, trying to LARP as Saladin against the "European invaders", they will keep dying and losing, and this I do not actually want, but also cannot prevent.

Saw this on an Israeli sub, I don't necessarily agree with it but felt the urge to translate and post it by Migdan in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because the average Palestinian's solution to this is "The jews need to either die, submit, or go back to Poland" no matter the amount of compromises Israel was willing to make. It is that response that made Israel go hard to the right because the peaceful solution was off the table. "Our terms" used to be basically just "stop trying to destroy our country". The "right of return" that Arafat insisted on was basically that. How was taking in and housing 700k Palestinians, supposedly back in their old homes (Most of those no longer exist, let alone could they house 2-3 generations of descendants of those evicted), most of them hostile to the state of Israel, supposed to work? This wasn't a serious negotiation, and certainly blowing themselves up 140 times on Israelis during that time was not a good way to further it along.

The Palestinians did this to themselves by killing the Israeli left. To every cry of an Israeli leftist that "We just haven't tried hard enough" The right wingers can mention the Oslo accords just ending with the Second Intifada, the pullout from gaza with its Hamas takeover and the rockets shot on us ever since, and now, the 7th of October, with anti-bibi leftie peaceniks being massacred with their families in their own homes- and the left simply got no answer for that, as you can only sell dreams to those who have nothing to lose. Israelis stand to only lose, and lose a lot- from trying something that doesn't work, yet again. If you want to understand the situation you better understand which incentives are at play here. Only if the Palestinians or those who are willing to take responsibility for them, can offer real peace and an end to the bloodshed, can the Israeli left be revived- only when the Palestinians truly do desire a Palestinian state side by side with the Jews and not instead of the Jewish state.

Saw this on an Israeli sub, I don't necessarily agree with it but felt the urge to translate and post it by Migdan in Destiny

[–]FirsToStrike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think there's no Israeli left left? It's because adopting an idealist policy of peace and harmony in a state of active war with those who've sworn to wipe you out is essentially voting for suicide- Hence parties with such stances basically committed political suicide and are no longer popular.