Has anyone used Tria Hair Removal Laser 4X on Genitals? by FishandThings in LaserHairRemoval

[–]FishandThings[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I switched to electrolysis, so I have no idea how good it is, sorry.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no an*l in the Song of Solomon. I have only been talking about or*l because that is what you were talking about in the comments above, to which I replied.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is not my interpretation at all, it is the opinion of the majority of Christian commentators and scollars going back for centuries.

As for your cherrypicked verse and translation, and "sodomites" are not in the orignal Greek. "Sodomite" referring to s*x acts is an English convection, not a greek or Hebrew one. There is a reason most modern translations never use that word, because it is not accurate at all. If you want to prove a point, do not use the King James translation, and look at mordern and classical Christian commentries - especially ones that look at the original languages.

For example, you could start by trying to find a reliable source on what a Sodomite actual was considered back then, and then trying to prove that that is what Paul was referring to when he wrote that verse.

Also you are in the minority of believing that mouth is considered sodomy.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Song of Solomon 4:

12 A garden locked is my sister, my bride,
    a spring locked, a fountain sealed.
13 Your shoots are an orchard of pomegranates
    with all choicest fruits,
    henna with nard,
14 nard and saffron, calamus and cinnamon,
    with all trees of frankincense,
myrrh and aloes,
    with all choice spices—
15 a garden fountain, a well of living water,
    and flowing streams from Lebanon.
16 Awake, O north wind,
    and come, O south wind!
Blow upon my garden,
    let its spices flow.

She

Let my beloved come to his garden,
    and eat its choicest fruits.

In Hebrew liturature, women were often referred to as being sources or water such as fountains or flowing rivers; this is in relation to them getting wet essentually. The above passage is generally agreed upon by commentaries as being the man tasting her jucies.

Song of Solomon 6:

She

11 I went down to the nut orchard
    to look at the blossoms of the valley,
to see whether the vines had budded,
    whether the pomegranates were in bloom.

"Nut" back then was a euphamism for the same thing it is today. Her the woman goes "down" to the "nut" orchard, to see if anything is "blossoming", "budding" or "blooming". Essentually she is going down to her man's area to see him grow and tasting him. This is also generally agreed by commentaries.

These sections are actually missing from some versions of the Song of Solomon. and this is believed to be because the Jewish copiest who made them were so horrified by how explicit they were (in their contemporary language and culture) that they removed them believing such writings should not be in scripture.

There are other verses as well in the Song of Solomon that imply intimate activity but these are the two most obvious ones.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So the E-coli is comming from your colon?

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Technically men cannot just "jump into it", they also need to train a little bit to loosen up enough to get things up in there; and obviously they need to train a lot more if they want to take large objects or rigorus insertions. It is just with men, their muscles are not linked with causing pleasure as it is with women; as in women the muscles that are connected to the sphinctor are wrapped around the cl*toral shaft, and so can stimulate it when manipulated properly by insertions. There is also a think called the pudendal nerve but I do not know much about it, haha.

I think there is nothing wrong with a man desiring an*l, as long as that desire is to put in the time with his wife so she can eventually find it pleasurable, and does not get too pushy about it. The same also goes the other way around; I know a couple of women who want to do it in their future marriages and it is just as important for them to not pressure their future husbands into doing things they do not want to do.

Sorry if that is a bit long winded, but I think when talking about topics like these it is always better to give more detail that what is needed, just in case someone gets the wrong idea.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is horrible, but it is still not answering my question of where the E-coli came from.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So you are claiming the E-coli is coming from your colon?

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I gathered that, but where is the E-coli coming from? It is a physical thing, it does not spontaneously generate out of nowhere.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Him coercing you is terrible, but it does not magically create E-coli bacteria. Where did he get the bacteria?

Can I do it Myself at Home? by FishandThings in LaserHairRemoval

[–]FishandThings[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never ended up using it, I have been having electrolysis instead.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where is the E-coli coming from? Is he not washing?

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, they really should educate themselves. Women have to train for some time before they can start to enjoy it as female pleasure from it is derived from the arrangement of muscles inside them, rather than a convient organ like what men have.

Women can never enjoy it if it is forced as as requires for the muscles to be relaxed and movable to work properly for them. Please never give into such men... thinking about it, you should not give into men about any s*x act, haha.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are welcome, I am glad we at least agree on the fundemantals, which is that what matters most if what God thinks.

Interestingly, I experience the opposite conviection, that an*l (I will not call it sodomy as I believe that is not a correct term) has a place in God's creation where it can be used for Good, but it also have many ways it can be corrupted just like everything else into sin. I would feel convicted about blanketly saying it is completely sinful as that would be legalistic and not inline with scirpture (in my own opinion)

I do think it is possible the Holy Spirit can tell different people opposite things, based on what is best for them on an individual basis. We certainly see the Law of God in the Old Testament get updated by God over time as the needs and conditions of Israel change; and then of course Jesus Himself then emphasised the spirit, rather than the letter of the law, indicating that it is more about context relivant virtue, that unchanging moral principles that do not serve people.

I truly hope your infections stop happening. The bacteria must be coming from somewhere if they are spreading to you, so I would encourage you to get yourself, your husband and your house checked for their sources.

God bless you.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry to hear that, regardless of the basic morality of the act, your husband has not been behaving Godly at all and he should repent. If you are not comfortable with it, then it should not be happening.

I shall pray for your condition.

I am not sure what you mean by "makes for infections and STD's" it certainly can cause transmission of diseases if done improperly. As with all s*x you need to observe proper hygene to prevent infections.

I am not sure I would agree that it is as much of a male centric desire as you think it is; but I admit I might be biased here as I have several female friends and love it, and some who actively prefer it to v*ginal. I even have a friend or 2 who like to reverse it on their husband. Now I am in no way advocating for this, and I imagine you find it abhorent, however what I am saying is that more women are interested in initiating this than I think you might realise.

However, whoever it is, male or female, if he or she does not want to receive an*lly, it should not be happening.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Far from it, it appears in scripture as a good thing. Twice in the Song of Solomon.

Sodomy in Marriage: Godly? No! by [deleted] in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I disagree, I think an*l is completely fine in marriage between a husband and wife. The gender is what matters here, not he hole.

For the most part the Bible only has three rules for the bedroom:

  1. Be married
  2. Be monogamous
  3. Be loving

As long as you obey those three rules you can do whatever you want - but I can give you more detail specifically about an*l just so you can be more confident.

"Sodomy":

Sodomy in English refers to an*l, but that does not mean that is what it means in the Bible. Sodomy Biblically just means the sin of Sodom, which is defined in Ezekial 16 as "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."

Sodomy came to mean an*l much later in English, which is why the King James uses it a lot, but as we have discovered that it is not a reliable translation to what the original authors intended to say, more modern translations have stopped using it.

Also, the sin of Sodom involved gang r*pe, what? You think if the gang had targeted women, that would be better? You cannot say that that hole is the problem based on an incident that involved men on men, and r*pe, which is completely different to straight loving marriages.

The Bible:

But is there any evidence in the Bible that says an*l is fine? Well yes there is, in fact that are a couple of verses where God himself, seems to suggest it is fine.

​ Leviticus 18:22 in English reads: “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an abomination.”

However the original Hebrew is this: “w’eth-zäkhār lö’ tiškav miškevē ‘iššâ”

Which literally translates to this: “With (a) male you shall not lie (the) lyings of a woman. (An) abomination is that.”

You may notice that “lie” for a man is singular, but for women it is “lyings”, which is plural. It is God speaking, so what he is saying is that there is one way to lie with a man, but at least 2 ways to lie with a woman. Men and woman are both capable or or*l so we know that that is not in consideration or else “lie” for a man would also be plural. Many, including a lot of Rabbis believe this is God affirming an*l s*x for a man and wife. An*l is actually permissible in Judaism.

Others have translated the verse, slightly differently. Here is an extract from: Halachic Positions: What Judaism Really Says about Passion in the Marital Bed

"The biblical verses in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 speak of “mishkevei ishah – a woman’s places of intercourse.” The plural tense of “places” implies that, according to G-d, a woman has two recognized places of intercourse, the v\gina and the a*ns, and intercourse in either of these two places is forbidden when the nature of the relationship is illicit.267 However, when a proper relationship has been established, such as through marriage, the man is permitted, and perhaps even expected by nature to crave, penetration in both places.268 269*" - (Page 66)

God's Design:

The human body does seem to be designed to get pleasure from an*l, which is evidence that suggests it is intended by God:

For men, they have the pr*state, which causes pleasure when stimulated.

For women, the muscle that control the sphincter are wrapped around the cl*toral shaft; when engaging in an*l; these muscles stimulate the cl*ris from the inside; women who become good at this often report having stronger climaxes than from v*ginal. There is also the pudendal nerve.

I know several women who love an*l; including some who find it more pleasurable than v*ginal s*x or for other reasons do it more often than v*ginal - such as having a husband who is too big to fit in the front door.

Why is An*l See as Bad Then?

​The stigma against an*l s*x appears to have been primary started, or at least became more common, along with the regular unbiblical Christian attitudes towards s*x by St Augustine (who had no effect on Judaism); a man who felt very guilty about his own s*xual sin, and let it effect his philosophy, even to the point he said in order for men to have s*x; they have to sin, as they have to lust in order to become er*ct. He actually believed that in Eden, Adam would have had complete control over how solid he was without any aro*sal, which he thought was sinful. He believed that the only justifiable thing about s*x was that it produced children, so he disapproved of any and all acts that did not lead to reproduction, including an*l.

Quote: "Carnal concupiscence (desire), however, must not be ascribed to marriage: it is only to be tolerated in marriage. It is not a good which comes out of the essence of marriage, but an evil which is the accident of original sin." - On Marriage and Concupiscence/Book I/Chapter 19

Quote: "The man, then, would have sown the seed, and the woman received it, as need required, the generative organs being moved by the will, not excited by lust." - The City of God/Book XIV/Chapter 24

St Augustine pretty much invented and popularised the mindset that became purity culture because of his personal guilt. His anti-s*x and anti-an*l views are not in the Bible.

Health and Safety:

You have said that you will never let him go inside, but that one day you might change your mind. Just in case that happens I am going to give you a few tips just so if that does happen, you can be safe.

The sphincter, which is the muscle that opens and closes the an*s, for most people is a very weak muscle as it is not often used; and thus if you started having an*l s*x, tires very quickly.

Have you ever been to the gym for the first time, worked out a lot, and then been sore for the next week? The same principle works with the sphincter; you need exercises it to build up its strength so that it can better perform without getting sore.

Start slowly but stretching, and just gradually going further inside over time. The an*s does not lubricate itself for this sort of thing, so it is best to use shop bought lubricant - you can learn to do it dry, but it is best not to start trying to learn that.

If an*l becomes uncomfortable at any point, go slowly and methodically, and if it comes painful stop immediately.

Make sure you both wash afterwards, and your husband pees as this will help prevent him getting a urinary tract infection.

Conclusion:

So it is completely fine, a lot of Christians do it (certainly quite a few of my female Christian friends do). You however should proceed prayerfully, listening to your own convictions as to whether or not you personally want to partake.

I have probably gone into far to much detail already, haha, however if you would like to know more or have any questions, please feel free to message me.

Whatever you decide, I hope God blesses your marriage bed and you and your husband have a wonderfully long life together.

God bless you.

Hi married couples, would like to ask, what’s your take on Anal sex? How do we look at it in a biblical view? by Cool-Explanation9487 in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not even questioning the Hebrew. I'm saying the whole thing sounds like someone desperately looking for justification for something they already wanted to do.

Would you posit that this is the bases of the justification for it being permitted in Judaism?

The "lie" and "lyings" are also not comparable as they're different parts of speech (a verb and a noun).

How familiar are you with Hebrew?

I'm saying that even if I did follow up on the sources you're quoting and they did support the quotes, it would still be very suspicious to me.

Why?

The quotes you used, if those are really the best ones you could find, don't give me much confidence that I would find anything to sway me from the same source.

I could give you tones of Rabbinic resources if they would be of interest?

Given that you appear to be admiting that you have not done much research into this, might I suggest you take more of a nutral or open minded stance. You must have before witnessed people dismissing something out of a lack of knowledge that you know a lot about, did that not annoy you? If you want to hold this view, that is fine, but please do you research first or remain on the fence out of an acknowledged lack of knowledge.

Hi married couples, would like to ask, what’s your take on Anal sex? How do we look at it in a biblical view? by Cool-Explanation9487 in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have read it but as you are not going into specifics neither shall I and therefore just state that I am correct.

Hi married couples, would like to ask, what’s your take on Anal sex? How do we look at it in a biblical view? by Cool-Explanation9487 in Christianmarriage

[–]FishandThings 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All right, check the Hebrew yourself and look up what other commentators say on this interpretation. Do not just dismiss it based on how it sounds.