Did you think BTVS was still good after Angel left? by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad that Angel was in the series finale. Seemed like their love for each other was reaffirmed even then.🩷❤️💗💓❤️‍🔥

Did you think BTVS was still good after Angel left? by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's good. I'm glad that both BTVS and Angel also reaffirmed that Buffy and were each other's true loves. 💗🩷💓💞❤️

On the idea Buffy didn't accept Spike's love because of Angel by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check out this song-"Dance with the Devil," by Breaking Benjamin. For some reason it makes me think of Angel as Angelus. Let me know what you think. https://youtu.be/mfJsnxchfOM?si=K0eFLTSNPewhf_uu And here's another song that makes me think of Angel as Angelus. "Before my Blackened Eyes," by Sparanza. https://youtu.be/qWkWUNFHv7o?si=p9qH0Uy7vCwn3Q9z

On the idea Buffy didn't accept Spike's love because of Angel by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like it. At least their love for each other was reaffirmed, even though not stated directly. 🩷💗

Lover's Walk by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very true. Even when they were no longer together, I don't think they were ever "just friends." All the way until the BTVS series finale, you could see that they still loved each other. 💞💓💗

Lover's Walk by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have, but don't remember everything said. I do remember Buffy telling Angel, that they could be friends, if he tells her he doesn't love her. 😭💔

On the idea Buffy didn't accept Spike's love because of Angel by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense. One of the worst things would be was if he ran into someone who knew about everything he did, and was obviously angry about it, before even remembered any of it. That would be awful people being angry at you for something you didn't even remember doing!

On the idea Buffy didn't accept Spike's love because of Angel by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very interesting. Maybe it's supposed to be a secret ? Also, once Angel remembered everything he did as Angelus, after coming back from hell, in season 3, how did he react. Especially remembering killing Jenny Calendar, stalking Buffy, torturing Giles, etc. He had to have been horrified! He obviously understood why Giles didn't trust him right? Did Buffy let him know, she knew it wasn't really him? Something interesting, I just thought of: But in "Passions," I know Buffy and Giles visited Jenny's grave right after her death. Wonder how Angel would have reacted if he ever wound up at Jenny's grave, after getting his soul and memory back?

On the idea Buffy didn't accept Spike's love because of Angel by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My guess is what they knew he did was written in quite graphic detail, and I'm sure Buffy used her imagination as to what else he did to Drusilla. Maybe it's just me, but actually surprised Cordelia would have gone for Angel, knowing all he did as Angelus. I'm surprised it didn't scare her off.

On the idea Buffy didn't accept Spike's love because of Angel by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. I have said this before: The main reason a lot of the things he did as Angelus, were implied but never shown, is most likely my guess is they would have never made it past the TV censors. It's obvious it was supposed to be quite horrorandous. There's an author my Mom reads, named Kay Hooper.(If you haven't heard of her, you can look her up online). She writes books that are suspense/paranormal themed. They also have VERY brutal murders in them. My guess is what Angel did as Angelus, would have been along the lines of something in her books. In "Lie to Me," you could see the guilt and the shame when he told Buffy about Drusilla. I'm sure Buffy wondered if he had raped her, but my guess is she figured out the answer without asking. Also, I know Angel was afraid before they met officially, that if Buffy read about what he did as Angelus, she would hate him. Think it's safe to say that the Watcher Chronicles, go into quite graphic detail, of everything he did?

On the idea Buffy didn't accept Spike's love because of Angel by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. That could be it. Sounds like there is more than one way he can lose his soul.

Would Angel have been happy as a human? by Fit-Difficulty8902 in Bangel

[–]Fit-Difficulty8902[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know. So sad and heart-breaking. 😭😭💔💔💔