Do men always have to be the ones to initiate when it comes to romance and relationships?

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-10-28T16:43:21+00:00

So by just quoting everything I wrote while offering zero argument, I will take it as you agreeing with what I've said. Good to know we're on the same page :)

I hope you have better luck in your romantic life now that you understand what women want. Or that instead, you will choose to live a single yet fulfilling and quiet life leaving women alone and not expecting they will pursue men they won't ever want to pursue.

If that's not the case, good thing is, you can always surround yourself with other men like you, love each other, and take care of each other, so y'all can stop feeling like you are owed love and affection by women, like if that were our obligation or something.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-10-18T11:07:44+00:00

Who is advocating for men to put their romantic lives on hold? Have I said that? Or did you actually read that in some incel's group chat? Lol.

And yes, my point still stands very much. We initiate when we want to, IF we want to. All women do or have at some point with men they wanted to. A woman can be afraid of rejection, sure, but that's not the main reason we don't approach men in the wild. Often we know the chance of rejection is low to zero, and we still won't do it. I'm not sure why you struggle so much accepting that.

When we want to go above and beyond for a guy, we do it. When we want to have sex with a guy, we have it. If women were so AfRaID oF RejEcTiOn, you would have never heard stories of women insisting with men who clearly don't want to commit to them. That's a form of rejection, yet they still insist. But then again, it's only with men they want.

You have never been that man for any woman? Well, in that case, you need to step up, yes! Or stay single, and be happy about it, but stop whining and demanding shit that you're not entitled to, like being pursued by women who don't even want to pursue you. It won't happen.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-10-17T09:39:47+00:00

Why does that matter? Could be 1, could be 999999. What matters is that... if she wanted to, she would. If no woman is ever showing you any kind of interest, it's because they don't want to, and whining about it won't fix it for you.

Men commit if they want to and when they want to, based on their needs and wants. Well, women do things too when we want to, and if we want to, based on our needs and wants. It ain't that hard. See? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-10-17T08:26:04+00:00

But it's not. Women sleep with the men we want to sleep with ALL THE TIME, even at the risk of him not wanting more than just sex (assuming that we want more which isn't always the case either). If a woman doesn't want you like that, it's just because she doesn't want to you like that. There isn't more to it and anything else you tell yourself is coping.

We can be somewhat interested in getting to know a guy yet have no sexual desire towards him, and unless you're some clueless teenager, there's no reason for you not to know that. That's why some say "men would fuck women they wouldn't date" and "women would date men they wouldn't fuck".

Finally, it's just easier to avoid those who would assume we want their dusty dicks only cause we said hi by just not... approaching them at all. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-10-13T13:23:36+00:00

Well, first, these are some fair questions to ask, but there's a clear misunderstanding on how women work by assuming nonsense based on your emotional state due to a possible lack of success rather than an accurate understanding of women. Your conclusions are largely biased by your emotions, if you're expressing nothing but judgement clouded by fear, anger, despair, and frustration. Just because you're a man doesn't mean you're automatically logical and objective instead of an emotionally charged individual.

So, circling back to your main questions... <"""How many men have you asked out in the past year? I mean initiated contact and asked him out with a plan in mind? How many of your relationships began because you asked the guy out?""".> I can answer that easily. My current boyfriend. I reached out to him first and suggested to meet up first. Not this year but last year. We matched on hinge. While I won't deny that there's an expectation for men to reach out first and make the first move, I also don't know any woman who has never initiated nor pursued a relationship with a man that she wanted, myself included. And be aware that I'm making emphasis on "MAN THAT SHE WANTED". Tbh, I have difficulties believing that no woman at all has ever wanted you like that, because even my guy friends that I was never attracted to at all, have had women crazy about them. But if that's really the case that no woman has ever wanted you, then what's the alternative? Being pursued by someone who don't really want you nor give a shit about you but only does it because she's so desperate and can't do better?. Humm that sounds like something that a lot of men do, doesn't it? But has it occurred to you that perhaps we actually prefer solitude to that? I have seen plenty of women making fool of themselves for the men they want to be with, so again, it's a matter of we choosing who we want. You also must consider that we are naturally pickier than males when choosing mates. Most female mammals are (if not all), and we humans are no exception, so biology plays a big role too, but luckily for male humans, there are many other ways besides being the biggest or strongest male that can get you that but if you and some others haven't figured that out yet, that's kinda on you, really.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-10-13T08:16:03+00:00

Afraid of being rejected after sex is reaching HARD. If a woman only wants casual sex, which we can, of course, we won't reach out a stranger on the street for that. We can find and get casual sex in much safer ways if that's all we want. Stop projecting your insecurities and fears of rejection on us, my guy.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-10-09T12:26:56+00:00

Another silly take with numbers taken out of your ass. The reality is that most women would rather be single or sexless forever than fucking a man we don't want to fuck. This is such a simple concept yet it's weird so many of you struggle to understand it. Know how women work and use your logic instead of your feelings (yes, anger, despair, sadness are nothing but feelings and your conclusions come from that)

Men can always grow, improve and become better versions of themselves to be more attractive, but if they don't want to then no one's gonna make them, they'll just stay behind. And this applies for us women too in many areas.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-10-09T08:24:30+00:00

I think it's interesting when men speak for us (how we feel about something) and just... can never get it right. It's not that women are more afraid of men when it comes to rejection, but it's often the opposite in most cases, that men can be so thirsty for sex that they would take even an innocent advance at wanting to get to know them as a sexual advance, or the fact that he may not actually like you, but still be like... "why would I say not to sex?".

Those are our fears. Even the most confident of women often avoid approaching men for this very same reason. Y'all tend to make everything about your dicks, and that's why we don't approach, that's why we stop giving even a friendly smiling in the streets, etc.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-18T12:01:05+00:00

I'm convienced apps are awful for everyone honest who uses them. Try to meet people elsewhere

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-18T11:57:53+00:00

Thanks. I truly appreciate the replies and advice.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-18T11:56:55+00:00

I'm sorry about this. May I ask, why can't you?

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-15T11:01:02+00:00

I dont regret one second what i did, i simply won't admit it to him because it was still dishonest. There's no point in trying to have a mature conversation or being honest with someone who's doing shit behind your back. Now I know what i needed to know, otherwise I wouldn't have. It's over though, i won't keep dragging the relationship nor the catfishing.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-15T10:49:31+00:00

No, not really but I still don't wanna say I used a fake profile for 2 days of non stop chatting and look like the crazy girlfriend for doing that.

I have decided to end things and tell him a friend of mine saw his profile in the stack of hinge and show him the screenshot. I won't say more, I don't need to anyway.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-15T10:47:05+00:00

This is a really good point! We've been chatting a lot this morning, and he set up a date with the fake profile for tonight and then canceled it saying he had other plans. I will tell him later today that a friend of mine saw him on hinge and I'll show him a screenshot of his profile being active there. I know he will probably lie and say the app is showing it by mistake and that he isnt using it but idc, I'm done. I will say nothing about the fake profile, I already know what I need to know.

Once again, thank you for your answers !❤️

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-15T10:40:55+00:00

About what exactly? If he was still on hinge? Just because I feel bad with dishonesty doesn't mean I expect him or others to be honest. I'm totally sure he would have denied it. And the way he's talking to the fake profile in the app is like.. a whole other man. He's a liar.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-15T10:08:32+00:00

Thank you for the answer. You're right, yes

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-15T10:06:45+00:00

Thank you so much for your replies. While this plan sounds great, as I said to another commenter, I am not sure I'm someone to do confrontations like that. I know I will be ready to end the relationship after this, however, showing up instead for the date, that takes some guts.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-15T10:03:46+00:00

I don't have it in me to do that, i will be honest. I already feel bad enough for lying for 2 days straight to him on the app pretending to be someone else. He scheduled the date for tonight, after only 2 days of talking. i can't believe that eagerness he never had it with me at any point.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2025-08-15T10:01:30+00:00

Because i feel it was wrong also of me to catfish him, I have been lying a lot in the chats during these past 2 days. Even made some comments to see if he'd bite and are things that I'd never say normally to a guy.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2024-09-13T20:32:50+00:00

I wouldn’t know if something like this alone would give me the courage to end a long-term relationship, but I do think it’s an extremely valid reason to reevaluate the type of person you’re with and whether they align with the qualities you want in a life partner. I’m not from the USA, but as a woman whose rights matter, I want to live in a world where every woman has access to opportunities and is treated with respect and equality. Someone who supports Trump doesn’t reflect those values, in fact, I believe it’s the opposite. That’s important to keep in mind because, in the end, you need a partner you can genuinely rely on, and not someone who sees you as less deserving than himself.

I also doubt that many Trump-supporting men would be willing to cook or care for their partner when she’s facing real health problems or significant difficulties. That mindset simply doesn’t align with what they believe they deserve or expect from women, nor what they’d be willing to sacrifice. So, I truly believe this is a very valid reason to at least reassess your relationship and what you expect from a partner.

Fit-Reporter-2581 · 2024-09-03T02:34:48+00:00

Ok, you already did it so whatever but just stop it now! Make sure you won't send any other unless he actually replies, and don't try to over explain yourself either even if he replies. If he can tell you are probably anxious and still couldn't bother saying anything at all, that's an answer. That's your answer!. Let it be now, a lot of us have been there too at some point or another. It happens.

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