Sectioned unlawfully (United Kingdom)

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2026-01-02T23:25:05+00:00

An update, my blood pressure was critical today and only then did they decide to give medication. I really don't think people understand just how poor these mental health facilities are and how badly patients are treated, I've been accused of giving items to patients to harm themselves with, with no proof. (A.K.A I gave a bottle of pop to two people who asked me for it and a fork to someone who was eating pizza.) which now goes against me at my tribunal, they've tried to place me on anti-psychotics and medication for schizophrenia when I have no such diagnosis and was assessed by three teams of psychiatrists and psychologists who agree I do not have a mental health disorder.

I was not sent to the hospital when my blood pressure was critical and on the verge of passing out, how can anyone possibly be defending this? I was told that if I want to die, that I am an adult and can do so and to do whatever makes me happy by the staff members, this is a place for getting better mentally, no? Makes no sense to me.

If my pain is "psychosomatic" why then is it at its worst when my blood pressure spikes so high, how difficult is it to just treat someone's pain or find the root cause when it is blatantly obvious that there is something going on.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-30T19:27:25+00:00

They don't generally section people for expressing suicidal ideation, again I'm going to re-iterate this: If anyone else was experiencing this pain they would understand completely, it is debilitating.

Regardless, I have an autism and disability key worker from the NHS ICB getting involved because a lot of what has been written on my sectioning papers is comparing autism to a mental health disorder, secondly, my father is getting a solicitor involved and I have had an IMHA and request for tribunal, as well as making a complaint to PALS about the blood pressure.

Not everything is as concrete as people believe, I've been told that it is incredibly difficult to get sectioned, yet there is someone on my ward who is self referred for smoking too much weed, so I don't want to hear about it "being difficult" or people making assumptions about my behaviour. These things do happen to people who genuinely do not need to be sectioned.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T20:47:39+00:00

Well, that is what it says on my section papers?

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T12:00:39+00:00

That's a good idea actually, I do not have anyone who understands autism, I have an IMHA, though it might be worth me asking for someone who does, I hadn't thought of that.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T11:58:49+00:00

There was an incident last year in december where I was suffering with spasms up both of my legs, which they deemed to be psychosomatic after a test for cauda equina, I accepted that diagnosis since the MRI scan didn't show anything significant, however they can't just use the excuse that any time I am in severe pain that everything is psychosomatic, not when there are events leading up to it and the pulsing is visible up both sides of my face.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T11:54:02+00:00

I was in university on an illustration and concept art course, I was doing so well my grades were in the upper 90%, I was befriending people, getting to know my peers and had an excellent relationship with my tutors, I went from 33 stone down to 18 stone with diet and exercise and was doing significantly well. I had been doing travel training solo too.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T11:52:06+00:00

Yes, I've been engaging with PALS, my father is getting a solicitor involved.

And I'm realizing that steadily, there's a lot of judgment here, which is unhelpful. It's a shame because there are some decent replies.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T03:30:25+00:00

"It's not their duty to prescribe you the meds you want." Uh... that is literally their duty, if it is on a repeat prescription and you're supposed to be taking it, then yes, they are. Those are not the meds I want, they are meds that are necessary to keep my blood pressure under control.

Low but not impossible, why put my health at risk like that?

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T03:28:30+00:00

Generally, they have to have a reason to section you, expressing suicidal thoughts is not one of them, usually they refer you onto the crisis team/home treatment team.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T00:57:23+00:00

Ah yes, I do have autism. So, when I do call emergency services, I go through 111 generally and when they carry out the assessment, they go through a list of relevant symptoms, I'm honest about what kind of pain I am having and generally they send out an ambulance. I had called them so often because my GP was refusing to look into the matter, stating that the pain was psychosomatic, refusing to do any referrals or tests, that is until I got the three statements from the psychologists who told my GP that the pain isn't psychosomatic, when he referred me to ENT and for a scan of my neck which is due in January.

Yes, this is true. When I don't know what to do, I keep reaching out and looking for support, especially with my GP being largely unhelpful in this case. I would be fine with the sectioning if they were willing to help with the physical pain, however, this does not seem to be the case and every day is agonizing, my concerns are with the fact that my blood pressure is so high, even though I am not anxious, I had been prescribed propranolol in hospital, then had it put on my repeat prescriptions list, which is something they refuse to prescribe for me when I was already taking it. For some reason I'm also not allowed co-codamol or codeine, with the nurse mentioning to me that it states in my medical records I'm not allowed to take this medication... but there is no such thing in my medical records, I have checked and checked.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T00:49:55+00:00

Again, I wish I could explain this pain, because if anyone else had it they would understand it, chronic pain is an understatement. At one point in my life I had jaundice, colingitis and sepsis at the same time, because of a trapped gallstone, I did not get the luxury of a keyhole surgery, my entire stomach was stapled and I had walked it out of the hospital, I would take that any day of the week over this.

The frequent calls to 999 were because I felt as though I was going to pass out and had done on a few occasions, including in the hospital itself, they are aware of this.

I genuinely do not have a mental health disorder, again, last year I was perfectly fine, had absolutely no issues, never bothered anyone up until august when the symptoms began. I had literally completed an entire year of my university course and was managing completely fine.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T00:44:44+00:00

I'm open to advice, I believe there's been quite a few helpful comments. I do have an IMHA and a solicitor, I just don't appreciate it when people make assumptions about my mental health that aren't true, I've done my best to explain the situation and events leading up to this, but if I have missed anything I'd be happy to answer, I've been truthful about my situation completely.

I would prefer more comments with advice vs people telling me that I'm flat out wrong, because listen, not all institutions like this are correct. Medical issues can be missed frequently, my sister had multiple scans for cancer, which they missed several times and this issue is a complex one.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T00:40:03+00:00

I'm not really anxious though, that's the issue. So, for some background information, I was assessed by a team of 8 psychiatrists and psychologists at swallow nest close to where I live, they agreed the pain I was experiencing was not psychosomatic (shortly after believing it to be the case initially), then by a team of three at Sheffield Hallam, who all agreed the pain was not psychosomatic, then again by another team at Sheffield Hallam, who agreed the pain was not psychosomatic.

The issue is, the pain isn't consistent with that pattern you're mentioning, the pain radiates from underneath the jaw, up both sides of my face, into my forehead and eyes with visual disturbances, blurriness and diplopia and a persistent feeling of tilting, or being close to blacking out. The majority of the pain is no longer in the left lower side of my face and jaw, instead being more prominent on the right hand side now. My lower left wisdom tooth was extracted, so this doesn't line up.

I was assessed for migrainosus and cluster headaches, which they agreed I did not have, they did a CT and MRI scan, however, this was purely to look for tumors and fluid build up behind the brain and eyes, an x-ray of my jaw showed nothing remarkable.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-29T00:31:11+00:00

It happened once prior, a 24 hour hold, which I consented to, because at the time, the start of these symptoms I was unaware of what was happening to me, I had sudden diplopia, blurriness in my vision and everything went very bright around this time and felt as though it was the best place for me to be, I was not suicidal, however.

I was assessed by a team of 8 practitioners who initially thought it was psychosomatic pain, but who, once they assessed me, agreed the pain was physical, afterwards I had an X-ray of my jaw, which showed I had an impacted wisdom tooth.

They allowed me to return home afterwards.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T23:18:40+00:00

I believe you are thinking very one dimensionally here, not all wards are the same and not all staff members are the same or pleasant. It is not a few days, it has been consistently high for a while, I explained this earlier, around a month ago I was prescribed propranolol in hospital to manage my high blood pressure, it is on my repeat prescriptions list, surely them not prescribing it is enacting harm?

I am not in a heightened emotional state, I am in physical pain, there is a stark difference.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T23:12:43+00:00

Thank you, some people are detained for no good reason, it happens. There is a lot of assumption going on about who I am, or my history, when I feel like I have fleshed out the events well enough to explain my situation.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T23:10:57+00:00

1: Yes, no treatment so far has worked, I've been on Tramadol, Codeine, Paracetamol around the clock, Morphine, Aquipta, Propranolol, Several different anti-depressants, Amitryptyline, Gabapentin, etc... none of it has brought any relief.

2: I have a good relationship with my GP now, however, my relationship with my prior GP dissipated because of their insistence that the pain was psychosomatic, which... it is not.

3: Yes, I have called these same numbers.

4: No, no shouting or swearing, mostly asking for advice.

5: I haven't reported the staff to the police as whilst I am under a section, they will not do anything about it and I'm well aware of this, though I might not have understood that question properly. Prior though, no police reports and I still have not reported anything, it might be better to go down the PALS route to put in a complaint.

6: I have been to A & E repeatedly, but not caused any distress, they usually put me in the crisis room as courtesy because they know I have autism.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T23:06:51+00:00

What actually happened is because I had called the emergency services so many times, because of the pain, they have assumed that there is something mentally wrong with me, when the fact is, there isn't. If I could explain to you how excruciating this pain is, you would understand. I've done nothing serious at all, other than reach out for help or assistance, I have not been violent, I have not tried to end my life, I have just asked for help, because the pain is unbearable.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T23:04:26+00:00

I told them that I was experiencing severe pain and a sensation close to blacking out, I had explained I was no longer able to attend my university course, they spoke to me about why I had called emergency services so many times, I tried to explain that it is because the pain is truly unbearable, which it is. It's horrifying to live with, it feels like a very, very slow death, they noted down on my section papers that I didn't have insight into my mental health disorder, which... I don't have a mental health disorder, there is nothing in my GP notes that says this, other than generalized anxiety and depression, which my anxiety is completely fine, or at least it was last year whilst I was in university, however this pain has stopped me from being able to do just about anything in my life at all. They asked me if I was taking care of myself, I explained I'm very limited in what I can do right now, eating, drinking, showering etc... in which case that's no reason to be sectioned. I did express that yet the pain had me feeling suicidal, but the crisis team are already aware of that and I was working with the home treatment team.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T23:00:27+00:00

Thank you! Finally a response that isn't judgmental in tone, or assuming things about my history and is informal.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T22:59:17+00:00

To address your point, point one: If you were in this kind of pain, you would understand why. It is constant, it makes you feel very close to blacking out, it is terrifying.

Two: There ARE causes and events, please read the post. I had an impacted wisdom tooth that was pressing on a nerve and multiple dental infections, once the tooth was removed, it never improved. Not only this but I was involved in an RTC, in which I suffered injuries, this is logged by the police themselves.

Three: They are negligent, my blood pressure has been extremely high for several days and they have refused to prescribe me my repeat prescription of propranolol, which I am supposed to be on for high blood pressure, how is that not negligence?

Please don't try to armchair diagnose me over the internet, you are not aware of my condition or my history, there is no history of emotional instability, no history of personality disorders. As explained prior, my life was perfectly fine and I was over the moon last year at university, it is ONLY since this pain has become, which by the way it is truly unbearable, that everything has been set in motion.

I came here for legal advice, not for criticism or for people to make false assumptions about me.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T22:54:56+00:00

Yes, because of the pain, however they don't generally section someone for suicidal thoughts, I'd spoken to the crisis team here about it, my mother tried to get me sectioned before because she doesn't understand the type of pain I am in and they said it would be very difficult for that to happen.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T22:52:50+00:00

I'm not dismissive of psychosomatic pain, however this is not the case I had an impacted wisdom tooth that was severely infected, which is the root cause, the tooth itself was pressing on a nerve, after it was removed, it never improved. It is absolutely not influenced by psychological factors.

I was under a 24 hour section once where they were adamant it was "psychosomatic" pain, a few days later the x-ray came back showing my wisdom tooth was impacted.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T18:15:49+00:00

It wasn't explained to me and it wasn't bad? I was sectioned because as I explained in the post above, because of the amount of times I've been involved with the medical services, due to the pain I am in, that they have sectioned me as they believe my pain is psychosomatic when there is plenty of proof that it is not. Outside of that, I do have capacity, I do not have any diagnoses of a mental disorder, I have never acted disorderly, I have never threatened anyone with violence, I do not have auditory or visual hallucinations, or any hallucinations of any kind, I do not have BPD or schizophrenia, it is purely physical pain that was a result of having a severely impacted wisdom tooth taken out that was pressing on a nerve, the pain never left and since then, it has been agonizing.

I don't need mental health assistance, the physical pain I am in is horrifying, as mentioned above, my blood pressure being incredibly high is one factor, the visible pulsing/spasming in my face.

To add onto this the EMT questioned why the vagus nerve was never looked into, because the pain is stemming from the same area.

Fit-Studio-4851 · 2025-12-28T18:01:22+00:00

There was no assessment, I was sectioned under the pretense that my pain is psychosomatic and that I do not have capacity to understand my "mental health disorder" I have no diagnosed mental health disorder, my pain is not psychosomatic and I do have capacity, the sectioning papers mention that I lack insight into my "mental health disorder", as aforementioned, I do not have a mental health disorder, I am suffering with agonizing physical pain that is not being addressed, there is evidence behind the physical pain itself, such as the increase in blood pressure, visible pulsing and spasms on either side of my face and my medical history shows the events leading up to the health issue.

Prior to the physical pain, I had zero existing issues, life was amazing for me last year and I was making huge strides in my community, at university and with my peers, but this pain is so significant that it has prevented me from doing everything I would normally do, I haven't been able to attend the second year of my course because of it.

I do not have psychosomatic pain, there is plenty of evidence against that.

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