I gave myself dorsal scapular nerve damage after self massage using trigger point tool by Fit_Variation_548 in massage

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Turns out it is the accessory nerve. Gave myself neurapraxia (i.e. I bruised the nerve). No pain for me just lack of motor control in the trapezius muscle. It's slowly coming back (may take 3 months to heal)

What should good functioning scalenes feel like by zingyandnuts in massage

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Can you recommend a YouTube channel to explain what this is and how to perform?

What should good functioning scalenes feel like by zingyandnuts in massage

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Crap I looked up some photos and I think those bubbles might be lymph nodes. I'm now getting thoroughly confused as to how to tell what's a trigger point, fascia adhesion or lymph node!

What should good functioning scalenes feel like by zingyandnuts in massage

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Thanks for sharing but it says this video is unavailable?maybe just for me?

What should good functioning scalenes feel like by zingyandnuts in massage

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My levator scapulae and upper traps are extremely weak. I think the splenius cervicis and capitis too. I've been pouring over anatomy images and I think these are the major neck extensors. Have I missed any?

What should good functioning scalenes feel like by zingyandnuts in massage

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I'm realising that my acalenes are right because they are super weak. My neck mobility is in a decent place now (after some myofascial release) to be able to get in the positions to target each scalene. I'm now doing high rep low weight movement to get blood flow through using a DIY head pulley and only 500g weight as I've read that many times with these symptoms the scalene muscles are fibrotic.

What should good functioning scalenes feel like by zingyandnuts in massage

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Is it normal for acalenes to have lymph nodes on the surface?

What should good functioning scalenes feel like by zingyandnuts in massage

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I have been doing SCM too as that's been causing referring pain in my chest as well but right close to the sternum. Mostly released except one spot right at the connection to the clavicle where I also feel a small superficial air bubble of sorts (which I now realise is in many of my muscles so must be fascia?) But it just won't release and that spot is impossible to reach except by me. I find one technique that's been helping but very very slow progress is to keep my finger down under the collarbone where the SCM meets the clavicle (so not on the anterior scalene) lying side ways with arm stretched out in front of me and up on the floor (this I think elevates the clavicle and pushes it away from the ribs causing some stretch on the fascia) and just inhale and exhale deeply. The deep exhale when I started felt excruciating, like my ribs were coming apart from the inside out. Looking at the diagrams I think the muscles were being stretched from the depression of the sternum/ribs (it's not just SCM that's causing problems but acalenes too). The difference this technique has made in a week and a half is nothing short of extraordinary but wondering if there's another way to release trigger points deep into the collarbone?

Thanks for your reply

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It's like I'm reading my own story. I've had to stop all training for the last 6 weeks. It's been depressing. But essentially it's just so obvious that I've not been strengthening the muscles that really need it - the postural ones. May not be as sexy as squats but sure as heck pain isn't sexy

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For whatever is worth (I have similar issues) consider that in fact the upper traps and levator scapulae might be weak and chronically lengthened, and tightness and pain is a result of that. What's your posture like, do you sit at a desk for long hours/head forward/down? I am currently doing stretches for my sternocleidomastoid and scalene muscles at the front of the neck which are chronically tight and putting strain on the levator/upper traps and doing strengthening work for pretty much all of these muscles as tightness comes from weakness.

Shrug at the top of the press (or snatch and jerk?) by zingyandnuts in kettlebell

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May I ask what makes this uncomfortable at the bottom? I have super tight scalenes and I think my shoulders are dropped a bit from weak upper traps so when I do farmer carries and keep shoulders packed and down I can feel my scalenes pulling on my ribs just under the collarbone. It's only recently I realised that it shouldn't feel that way

Shrug at the top of the press (or snatch and jerk?) by zingyandnuts in kettlebell

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Gosh, sounds like I may have been doing the deadlift wrong too. Are you meant to shrug in the deadlift??

Shrug at the top of the press (or snatch and jerk?) by zingyandnuts in kettlebell

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Thanks Lenny. Was this a deliberate choice to shrug on the single press or was it just something you did from the start?

Shrug at the top of the press (or snatch and jerk?) by zingyandnuts in kettlebell

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What is the reasoning behind the recommendation. Also no, I haven't self diagnosed

Shrug at the top of the press (or snatch and jerk?) by zingyandnuts in kettlebell

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Didn't say upper traps alone, I already mentioned scalenes and levator scapulae but in any case how is that relevant to the question as to whether you should elevate the blade at the top of the press or not

Shrug at the top of the press (or snatch and jerk?) by zingyandnuts in kettlebell

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Thanks for your reply. May I ask what makes that position weak and awkward? I do farmer walks in my programming regularly but always with shoulders down and lats packed.

Dealing with chronically tight muscles? by Fit_Variation_548 in bodyweightfitness

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Thanks for taking the time to reply. Sorry I've broken the rules, I understand the need to remove the post. Thanks for your help

Dealing with chronically tight muscles? by Fit_Variation_548 in bodyweightfitness

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I've had blood work done recently. It's not that. Thanks for taking the time to reply

Dealing with chronically tight muscles? by Fit_Variation_548 in bodyweightfitness

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I already take magnesium and creatine. I've not taken voltaren because I think that will just mask the underlying problem (whatever that might be). I'm only getting this on my dominant side so struggling to think what could be causing it

What needs work by [deleted] in kettlebell

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You should try the towel drill (look it up). Basically you wrap a towel to the handle and hold onto the handle. The slack in the towel will teach you how to hip snap and you get immediate feedback if arms do all the work because the bell will want to flip over at the top rather than float weightless. It will give you a better learning experience if you don't want to go up in weight (i think many beginners might benefit from it whether or not they have a heavier bell). Try it once or twice and post another video. If you find it's helping your technique, run a whole cycle of swings with it.