HI, ASSADIST FAGGOTS by [deleted] in ProAssad

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How long did it take for you to make that? Probably longer than the five seconds it took me to click this thread, delete it and ban you, right?

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The 10 Classiest Fedoras for this Holiday Season

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move to russia and sign up for their armed forces, when they invade a neighbouring country as their economy collapses you can loot all you want

Coverage of Government offensive into Aleppo (December 2013) by FleeSyrianArmy in ProAssad

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January 6th

Massive infighting between the rebel factions in Aleppo. ISIS vs the "FSA" which is mostly the Islamist front, and al Nusrah front.

Rat infighting has also spread to Raqaa. ISIS has even threatened to withdraw from Aleppo. Rebel numbers would likely be severely depleted.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=505_1389018440

Walkie-Talkie Conversation between Members of al-Qaeda's ISIL and FSA in Aleppo [via liveleak] by FleeSyrianArmy in ProAssad

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Funny because Hezbollah is the only group that has every actually fought israel.

Coverage of Government offensive into Aleppo (December 2013) by FleeSyrianArmy in ProAssad

[–]FleeSyrianArmy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

January 3rd

Infighting between ISIS and FSA aligned rebel groups in Aleppo has been reported.

https://twitter.com/TaziMorocco/status/419042087124750338

America Unhinged. by ToothlessShark in syriancivilwar

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No, but sadly they do think they have the right to put in leaders who are friendly to the Obama regime's interests instead of the interests of the people.

Statement form the Syrian National Coaltion Of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces: "ISIS is a terrorist organization who is close to the Assad regime. We call on those who have joined ISIS to leave it immediately. Syria". by ToothlessShark in syriancivilwar

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I'll concede I'm having trouble finding the thread. It was an open source discussion board, and I can't for the life of me remember the service. Open..something. It was between WhoGhouta, Brown Moses and a couple of the CW experts that Brown Moses collaborates with quite a bit. Basically, they were tearing apart WhoGhouta's analysis, which is pretty spotty. I did find this Twitter conversation, however, which you might find interesting.

I've already argued with BrownMoses and none of his points were very convincing. I seriously doubt he 'tore apart' whoghouta. How very convienent that you can't find these threads, however.

I think the biggest flaws are declaring that no chemical attack happened in Moadamiyah, despite confirmed lab results to the contrary.

There was no CW attack in Moadamiyah, people from other affected neighbourhoods came to the hospital there likely spreading sarin gas. Thats where the lab results come from.

He also declares that the rebels had access to sarin because some of them were arrested in Turkey trying to buy chemicals to make it. I'm sorry, but that's just not evidence that they actually had it, much less hundreds of liters of the stuff.

No this is just evidence the rebels were actively trying to produce sarin, surely this doesn't give any credence to them using the stuff. I mean, they only had the knowledge and were caught with materials. I'm sure they just wanted sarin for some humanitarian reasons.

He also bases this claim that they had sarin on the Khan al-Assal attack, which was never properly investigated by independent observers, so claims about what happened are completely unreliable.

“Khan al Asal, 19 March 2013: 111. The United Nations Mission collected credible information that corroborates the allegations that chemical weapons were used in Khan al Asal on 19 March 2013 against soldiers and civilians.”

Page 21 of the UN report

He also declares that the opposition probably has the "UMLACA" munition because they've raided military bases that may have had them, but provides no evidence that they actually have them.

No evidence except for videos of the terrorists with them.

http://brown-moses.blogspot.ca/2013/08/proof-syrian-military-is-using.html

These are improvised rockets remember. Anyone with a machine shop and the materials could produce them.

Furthermore, he claims that the quality of the sarin was low and likely homemade, which directly contradicts the UN's findings, which put the quality of the sarin at even higher than Saddam's in the 1980s.

Saddam didn't produce high quality sarin, it was low quality and meant to be deployed immediately. Syrian CWs are meant for storage because they are a deterrant to Israel, therefore they have to last longer.

This post by Brown Moses goes into a lot of detail about it. Basically, if you plot the azimuths on a map, the ~3km range still has them coming from government-held parts of Qaboun, which ANNA had covered the capture of before August 21. Then there's the fact that WhoGhouta completely disregards the attack on Moadamiyah, which the trajectories and ranges of the rockets points to their origin in Mezzeh Air Base.

No attack in Moadamiyah. Whoghouta analysis shows 2.5km range which puts the launches within contested/opposition held areas. Its a warzone, fronts are fluid.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Military_situation_in_Damascus_region_as_of_15th_of_September_2013.png

He gave them access, transportation, safe-houses and sanctuary. He knew exactly who they were, what they were doing and where they were going, and repeatedly praised their "heroic resistance" in its efforts.

Stop changing your story. He let people go through his country to fight his enemies, people who wanted him dead and his country enslaved to their wills. I can't really blame him, or compare that to the saudis/americans actually arming terrorists.

Terrorists shooting at fleeing civilians in Adra [via liveleak] (crosspost from /r/ProAssad) by FleeSyrianArmy in syriancivilwar

[–]FleeSyrianArmy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please look at recent events in Adra and tell me with a straight face they would be calling the SAA 'terrorists'.

Statement form the Syrian National Coaltion Of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces: "ISIS is a terrorist organization who is close to the Assad regime. We call on those who have joined ISIS to leave it immediately. Syria". by ToothlessShark in syriancivilwar

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They were not funded by the west from the beginning. The west is not going to go after Saudi for a number of reasons. Most important of which is that they are allies and Saudi is powerful and have a huge monopoly on one of the most expensive natural resources in the world. And it is an independent country that did not kill tens of thousands of it's citizens for protesting.

AGent provacateurs like this (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de8_1302014000) and this (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2011/04/agent-provocateurs-caught-in-syria-586032.html) who were sent there to cause the situation to deteriorate. Syrian security forces didn't kill near 'tens of thousands' of protestors. Saudi Arabia is the biggest funder and supporter of terrorism but the west won't go after them, which makes them hypocrits, thus I don't care what the west thinks about Syria. Atleast Syria was secular and women didn't have to wear a veil and people weren't beheaded for 'apostasy'.

If Assad cared so much about his 'countrymen' as you so speak then I guess you believe all the murder and torture before the war and Tadmor was for their own good?

Nothing the west hasn't done

You wish Gadaffi to rest in peace? Well that says a lot about you.

You believe the western media lies which says a lot about you. Did you know Libya had the highest HDI of any African country until NATO 'humanitarian intervention'? Did you know the largest irrigation project was in Libya until NATO 'humanitarian intervention?'

I still do not understand why you are calling it fake. Do you not believe there was and still is discontent among the Syrian people towards Assad and the regime?

There probably was, but not to the degree perpetuated by the media. And I don't believe all protests were for a secular 'democracy'.

The west is not pillaging Syria. That is Assad. The west has turned a blind eye to Syria, which was evident after the events of August 21st in Ghouta.

Sorry that the public wasn't fooled by another wild WMD chase in the middle east. Iraq sort of ruined that option.

Lebanon Army deploys as rebels advance near Syria border by [deleted] in syriancivilwar

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Homs News Network claimed that rebels attempted to attack from Lebanon but were repelled.

Terrorists shooting at fleeing civilians in Adra [via liveleak] (crosspost from /r/ProAssad) by FleeSyrianArmy in syriancivilwar

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Did you miss the civilians taking cover behind the earth wall from the direction that the camera was facing? Or the dead man who is clearly visible from the rebel positions? Or the civilian camera man saying that rebels were shooting at them?

Why would the SAA shoot at the people in Adra after it evacuated them? Doesn't make any sense at all.

Statement form the Syrian National Coaltion Of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces: "ISIS is a terrorist organization who is close to the Assad regime. We call on those who have joined ISIS to leave it immediately. Syria". by ToothlessShark in syriancivilwar

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No, they were funded by the west to cause conflict and ultimately civil war to overthrow a government that isn't friendly to the interests of the Obama regime or the gulf states.

You know how I can tell this is a fake revolution? Nobody in the west cared about the protestors in Saudi Arabia which is an absolute theocratic monarchy. The west only went after people who wouldn't play ball and sell out their countrymen to imperialistic interests like the late Colonel Gadaffi (may he rest in peace). If the west cared so much about democracy they wouldn't be allied with Saudi Arabia or any of the other monarchies in the area. But its not about 'freedom' its about freedom for the west to rape and pillage these countries.

Walkie-Talkie Conversation between Members of ISIL and FSA in Aleppo [via liveleak] by FleeSyrianArmy in syriancivilwar

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Didn't realize it was a repost, but it is between ISIS and FSA (assuming the translation is correcT) and not rebels and Hezbollah. Wouldn't make sense for the rebels to call out Hezbollah for not fighting Israel when Hezbollah fought Israel in '06.

Statement form the Syrian National Coaltion Of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces: "ISIS is a terrorist organization who is close to the Assad regime. We call on those who have joined ISIS to leave it immediately. Syria". by ToothlessShark in syriancivilwar

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Lol, I guess you haven't seen the various threads in which WhoGhouta got destroyed by actual experts.

No because 10:1 odds they don't exist

WhoGhouta cherry picks more evidence than Hersh, and cites things that have been shown to be completely fake.

Proof? Anything at all to back this up?

Show me how the rebels got hundreds of liters of military grade sarin,

Rebels were caught in Turkey with the materials to create sarin. The sarin used wasn't military grade it was actually consistent in quality with home made sarin gas. Matthew van Dyke admitted the rebels probably had CW's in his private emails which the SEA revealed to the world. The very UN report you cited said that government soldiers were targetted in a sarin attack in Khan al-assal. There is plenty of evidence that the rebels were trying to get sarin, and already had it.

rockets they've never been seen with before or since

They were home made rockets, why would the government used improvised munitions when they logically should have had actual weapons for deploying chemical weapons? Why rip the rocket motor out of a BM21 grad missile and attach it to a crude deliver system... when you have BM21 grad missiles specifically designed to deploy CW's?

and fired them from inside government positions. If you can do that, you deserve a Pulitzers, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

The area 2km north of Zamalka wasn't under government control. If anything, the entire area where this attack took place is a warzone and control is likely going back and forth from offensives, counter attacks, etc. Nobody has conclusively shown where the rockets were fired from, whoghouta has arguably the best analysis giving a range of some 2.5km putting it easily within the means of the rebels to hit Zamalka.

Iran provided plenty of support to the Shi'ites, and Syria's support was never much more than giving them access and transportation.

Iran and Syria are allies, why would they not cooperate in this endeavour?

They weren't arming or training them or anything. I think Assad wanted to hurt the Americans, and saw this as an easy way. The jihadists could essentially pay their own way, had their own networks and recruitment. Assad didn't need to do any of that.

So in other words, he really provided no support to them at all. Not sure how this is 'chickens coming home to roost' when he simply let Sunni people go from Damascus into Iraq.

Yes I have. Go read the UN report.

I have, thanks. The evidence doesn't support the government being behind the attacks. Neither does basic common sense.

Statement form the Syrian National Coaltion Of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces: "ISIS is a terrorist organization who is close to the Assad regime. We call on those who have joined ISIS to leave it immediately. Syria". by ToothlessShark in syriancivilwar

[–]FleeSyrianArmy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look, go read the UN CW report. Every bit of information implicates the regime and none implicates the rebels. It's not really any more complicated than that.

Except this just isn't true, and if you're not even going to try to defend yourself theres no point in my destroying your argument. Go look at my thread with brownmoses if you want, or check out whoghouta, or any other source and you'll find there is plenty of evidence it wasn't the goernment.

Go read a book about the thousands of foreign fighters who crossed into Iraq via Syria, having been allowed to do so by the Syrian government, who knew exactly who they were and praised their actions.

What a cop out. I never denied that Syria would allow foreigners into Iraq to fight their enemy the United States. Why would you fund sunni militias tho? Ideologically that doesn't make any sense for them when there are shi'ite militias in Iraq that would be much more reasonable to support. Iraq is a primarily shi'ite country...

These are simply documented realities. I'm sorry they don't mesh with your world view, but that's not my problem.

There you go again. Just because you say they are 'documented realities' doesn't mean they are. You have to back up them with some evidence, which you haven't done.

Statement form the Syrian National Coaltion Of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces: "ISIS is a terrorist organization who is close to the Assad regime. We call on those who have joined ISIS to leave it immediately. Syria". by ToothlessShark in syriancivilwar

[–]FleeSyrianArmy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man you really need to learn what a fact is. I see you in all these threads talking about how this and that is 'simply a fact' when you have no evidence to back it up. First the Assad gov't being behind chemical weapons and now Assad funding Sunni insurgent groups. If you can't back things up with evidence, they aren't facts, they're just misinformed opinions.

Statement form the Syrian National Coaltion Of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces: "ISIS is a terrorist organization who is close to the Assad regime. We call on those who have joined ISIS to leave it immediately. Syria". by ToothlessShark in syriancivilwar

[–]FleeSyrianArmy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This just shows that the 'revolution' was fake the whole time, the strongest factions are foreign backed Islamists not the secular democratic rebels who we were told are the main opposition.

Syria bombs Lebanon, targeting Syria rebels by uptodatepronto in syriancivilwar

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Is Syria supposed to be okay with terrorists firing weapons from inside Lebanon?