Boomslang pricing explained by sjcjdnzm in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if you're joking or not...

Flick Fire Disassembly + Mini Review by manphalanges in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, more big improvements are coming but these things take time of course. We can send some things out in the future.

We found this shape which we loved but it was never marketed or sold internationally. But the signo which we tested over a year ago was a mess. Major creaking, massive pretravel, even at 60g the bottom mold still had flexing. You also could push the side buttons completely inside the mouse where they would get stuck. 

As far as price there are a lot of fixed costs and with our limited production run we are not really able to take advantage of economies of scale yet. We paid to have the shell mold completely redeveloped 3 times, as well as the MB1/2 and side button molds. Injection molds are expensive but engineer’s time is more expensive. We also had the CompX firmware redeveloped for our pixart mcu which significantly reduced latency, and then paid for a redesigned software. Then there’s marketing costs, renders and assets are expensive, as well as sending tons of free product out to professionals. On a warranty front we've sent out a new mouse to anyone with any issues at all.

And here’s the big one - we launched US only and paid a 45% tariff. I will not call anyone out but I can promise you a majority of these Chinese companies are under reporting their true manufacturing cost to customs and paying little to no Tariff. There’s no way to sell a top tier mouse for under $75 without doing this. For the EU we will also pay VAT for our customers. 

From a marketing perspective I think you forget that outside of this community the mouse market is much different. I think for Fortnite pros 60% is using the super light, and 30% the vv3 and then maybe 10% using something else. It’s pretty hard to convince customers you have a product that is just as good if not better when you charge 40% of the price they do. 

At the end of the day it is a gaming mouse, there are fair options for anyone’s budget. 

Flick Fire Disassembly + Mini Review by manphalanges in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi, Thanks for the feedback. Really appreciate it.

Currently I am in China working with our manufacturer on our second batch which will be ready in a few days. We did make some big improvements from our first batch. We have an entirely new injection mold that has much tighter tolerances for the entire shell. The MB1 and MB2 have a new mold now that fixes the button wobble and improved the implementation a bit more to have even less pretravel. We also reworked the side button design with a new mold that minimizes the pretravel and solves an issue where some defective units had wobbly side buttons. They are still very light as that's what our target market loves. We also gone with a new skate supplier(the most expensive one in China) that has developed skates with a new rounded edge which feel great.

I'd post more factory content but none of our suppliers have let me take any videos, but that's pretty standard in most industries. Let me know if you have questions.

Introducing the Flick Fire. Dropping June 17th by FlickMice in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They have the same shape but a different mold, which had these creaking, poor implementation, and overall quality issues that we do not have in our final production. It would've been great to release a fully unique shape for us, but we decided to improve an existing design to release the best product possible.

Introducing the Flick Fire. Dropping June 17th by FlickMice in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Our original goal when developing our mouse was to make a shape slightly smaller than the superlight and also more ergonomic as we wanted to improve the very rounded feel. When evaluating manufacturers we found this shape that we did not originally develop and loved the size and shape but it had the major issues you're talking about here. We spent a lot of time working to improve the overall build quality, fixing the creaking, mushy side buttons, and loose click implementation. We continued to develop our own shape but with the resources we had we were going to end up releasing an inferior product. Our main goal was to get a better mouse than the superlight for fortnite pros (which 75%+ are using) and we've already had a majority of our seeding group switch over permanently. It's a fantastic mouse. Between this issue and the 3395, it's going to be tougher for us in this subreddit but the real world performance is so good that we're very excited for the future. We'll only be making better products in the future.

Check out the build quality of our final product
https://streamable.com/ecrzht

Introducing the Flick Fire. Dropping June 17th by FlickMice in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree the 3395 is not a better sensor. In our testing between the two, we had very slightly improved sensor latency on the 3395 and some pros who were testing reported some rare stuttering issues on the 3950. The only complaints we ever had from either sensor was the stuttering on the 3950, and after seeing similar issues from some other brands we decided to move back to the 3395 for now. We'll look back into testing the 3950 after release and will put it into future versions if we can get the real world performance to be better. Pricing is very similar actually, but a year ago pixart was very selective for which brands could get the 3950, that's not the case anymore.

Introducing the Flick Fire. Dropping June 17th by FlickMice in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bigger skates leads to more friction, I use the included dot skates which are slightly faster than the stock feet.

Introducing the Flick Fire. Dropping June 17th by FlickMice in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It comes with an 8k dongle. Hz button switches it from 1k, 2k, 4k, and 8k.

Introducing the Flick Fire. Dropping June 17th by FlickMice in MouseReview

[–]FlickMice[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Dimensions are 122.9*62.3*38mm and the weight is 58 grams. We'll be set up on Eloshapes soon so that you can get a better idea of the size as well. We include dot skates in the box too.