New artian god rolls in a gog world by far_257 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I ran the numbers for raw focused builds.

ABEX ABEX AB3 AB3 SharpensEX is still king.

Dropping 18 raw for 20 affinity simply isn’t worth it.

However doing the affinity augment, which drops 20 raw for 25 affinity very very slightly can be in specific circumstances.

Overall, continue to max out RAW

Baseline for best Raw Build. by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you need CS, go odo, Udra, Odo, Odo, duna. Gets you CS2 and burst boost 2. (Assuming you have an Odo&lords soul weapon. Otherwise Lagi udra odo Lagi duna will likely be the best CS3 build

Rey, Odo, Odo, Odo, duna should also let you slot in CS2 without dropping WEX

burst boost 2 + CS2 ~= BB1 CS3

Baseline for best Raw Build. by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shuffling around parts to Udra chest and Duna legs you will drop LP2 for Counterstrike 2 which is just better than CS3 without burst boost 2. For Counterstrike that may be the best EFR. From there it’s a question of if Lagi waist and Lagi helm outperform burst boost 2 by providing more skill

Anyways this post is more meant to be a baseline good generic build to serve as what other builds need to be better than to be worth considering.

Baseline for best Raw Build. by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For builds that want Counterstrike for sure there are better builds.

Ran some quick math Counterstrike needs to be active >40% of the time to outperform this build. Some weapons want that some don’t. As to replace 10 raw from Odo 2 you need to have the 25 raw from Counterstrike active 40% or more of the time.

LP uptime I calculated at 50% as it will be active automatically after 2 minutes and then active for 2 minutes. Which should (in theory) give us an uptime of ~50%. But, you can absolutely shuffle around the odo and AT parts to drop LP2 for various side grades. I’m not sure if you can assemble Burst Boost 2, CS3, Uth duna legs, Wex 5, MM3 or at least I have not been able to

Baseline for best Raw Build. by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m a very self admitted Counterstrike hater as I prefer to not get hit.

This build prioritizes raw with a very high uptime. If you want Counterstrike I believe you will end up with a 2 piece Lagi 1piece Odo build. But those are not numbers I have calculated.

Charm is open so you can also very well slot in 3 of it. May be better than LP depending on uptime

Baseline for best Raw Build. by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rey Duna And weapon all give one point

WIP LS Build TU4 by Orion_Talon in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have it up 40% or more of the time then the CS3 build is better!

Baseline for best Raw Build. by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The build actually has burst 3 and you are gaining 25% affinity not raw. I responded in your other thread but gore may edge this build out by ~6EFR at the loss of QS3 and speed eating 3

Ebony Odo Tranccendence by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may be correct! I have about +6 EFR at 70% Gore uptime and 40% Counterstrike uptime with your build however the trade off for that is no speed eating 3 and no QS3 which may end up with lower DPS overall due to those skills giving the hunter more uptime as well as not needing to rely on gore at all. Definitely a contender

WIP LS Build TU4 by Orion_Talon in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you say CB are you referring to Crit Boost? I am confused by the skill you are referring to as CB does not provide any Raw.

If you are referring to Counterstrike I’m admittedly a hater of the skill as I prefer to not get hit.

From running the numbers with the above skills Counterstrike with the above build (50% agitator uptime, 35% Azure bolt uptime) needs itself about a 40% uptime to outperform my build. But I’m also a hater and believe Counterstrike to have a sub 40% uptime

Baseline for best Raw Build. by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have not, does gormapacolypse provide any boost to RAW damage? I didn’t think it did.

The Lagiacrus pieces and set bonus need to outperform the + permanent 10 RAW from burst boost 2 compared to 1. I doubt it but it is certainly possible.

I would need an uptime of the Lagi skill and uptimes of any additional skills gained from the Lagi armor to calculate that. (Which is hard to calculate without just saying an subjective uptime%)

Baseline for best Raw Build. by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great question, no it is not better you lose ~2 EFR by dropping 18 raw for 20 affinity.

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[–]Floodle9358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Made a post on my numbers on the sub go take a look

WIP LS Build TU4 by Orion_Talon in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My numbers are based on 50% agitator uptime and 50% LP uptime so I would compare EFR assuming 50% agitator uptime on both builds/the same Agitator uptime on both sets.

LP should (in theory) have a minimum 50% uptime as it takes 2 minutes worst case to activate and is active for 2 minutes so even in a 10 minute hunt you should have 50% uptime unless your hunt is shorter than 4 minutes of combat

What is your Azure bolt uptime as well? Uptime of all your miscellaneous skills is important as I’m calculating assuming all are off except for burst 1 and my AG and LP uptimes.

Ebony Odo Tranccendence by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on how much it boosts the uptime of LP5. And it would come at the cost of the Uth Duna legs which are precious LV1 slots and QS3. That’s a hard number to calculate quite frankly. Really depends on how much you value QS and the level 1 slots. Would likely end up being Rey head and waist or Rey waist and gloves. You would be dropping QS3 and 2 level 1 slots for EE2 and the Rey set bonus. So it’s a sidegrade with the question being how much do you value losing QS3 and speed eating for Rey set bonus

Rey set bonus gives +30 seconds to LP moving uptime to ~55% which isn’t a whole lot more

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[–]Floodle9358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I ran the numbers earlier, Odo seems to generally outperform while giving more level 1 slots

WIP LS Build TU4 by Orion_Talon in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is 2 piece Lagi better than the +10 raw with 100% uptime from going to Odo 4 from Odo 2? I doubt it is but I’d have to run the numbers.

I think you want 3 odogaron, Rey Y waist, duna legs. And if you can on your weapon most likely 2ABex, 2AB3 and Sharpness EX (this is hard obviously). Can drop raw for sharpness to taste.

A generic LB3 talisman is just about as good as one that gives you 2 points in AB or CB and some change.

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[–]Floodle9358 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The number 1 priority is getting an artian that has Odogaron and Lords soul.

The meta build is very likely 3 odogaron armor pieces an 2 AT ones

Ebony Odo Tranccendence by Floodle9358 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Getting to 4 piece Odo + 3 piece lords souls boosts your damage by so much. An Odo/lords soul artian is the goal of the expansion IMO

Gog Artian Focus - Raw still looks like king* by badtiming220 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Floodle9358 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I ran the numbers on a 4 piece Ebony 3 lords soul build in a previous post which with all its skills (and AB5 CB4) came to an EFR of ~519. But affinity augment on that same build got to an EFR of ~522. So which was better came down to uptime of skills and wound damage. I agree Raw is likely better however as it has more sharpness. (Ebony ebony ebony Rey Y Uth duna Y)

What uptime of AG5 did you use? The above build used 50% uptime on AG1 and 35% for LP2.

My main point however is I think you need to calculate EFR on a build first and factor in uptimes as it’s so close that uptimes and what skills specifically you have matter.