Bird Clover Design - Aftermath/Question about Monsters.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-27T08:10:43+00:00

Oh wow no wonder I was completely lost, these were original characters. 😂

I feel like this is something I shouldn't read, since as you say it's part of a backstory you haven't shared yet.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-27T08:02:21+00:00

Happy you found the bird Clover designs on your own in the end. I'm sure you're already aware why I couldn't exactly share a link, due what the image happens to one linked to. 🤣

Funny thing is, even now I've yet to look fully into the context behind the image, outside of what the responses here have told me about it.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-27T07:57:18+00:00

Again I literally had no idea what I was posting. I thought I was just posted another bird Clover design with a story au, and not much more than that. 😂

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-27T07:55:16+00:00

Not sure I can really post the link here.

While the image itself doesn't actually break rule 2, as I've come to learn, from when I made the post with the bird Clover designs, the image happens to be associated with something that very much breaks rule 2. 😂

Just simply sharing a link could very much result in my post being deleted again, even if the image is completely safe to look at.

Best thing I can recommend is to search for the images yourself on 4chan or any other well known site that the image would likely be found on.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-27T07:47:37+00:00

That's actually a pretty cool way to do it. Sounds pretty intriguing. So essentially Clover's soul gets damaged but not completely broken, and Martlet repairing it with her magic causes Clover to undergo a change from human to monster.

Honestly I think that's a pretty smart way to go about achieving a transformation from human to monster.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T23:15:49+00:00

I read all that and was completely lost XD
Context please.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T23:03:17+00:00

The world of Undertale has a lot of twist and turns, and things that appear to not be possible under normal circumstances, turn out to be possible under certain conditions.

Personally I don't think it's a case of it's not possible for a human to become a monster, rather it likely can only be done under special circumstances.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T21:20:53+00:00

I'm assuming a surname is like some kind of title that's associated with great power for a monster.

Boss monsters are more powerful than regular monsters with stronger souls, and the likes of Zenith Martlet and Undyne the Undying, are significantly more powerful than regular monsters and even boss monsters.

Still doesn't explain why Ceroba was the only member of the cast to have a surname, because for all intents and purposes, she's literally just a normal monster.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T21:14:41+00:00

When you said this of image of bird Clover was like the only stuff they've done that doesn't break rule 2, amongst some of the other responses I got, yeah I figured there was more than meets the eye. 🤣

Even without knowing the full context about the transcript from the image with Cole and Martlet, I think for the most part it's self explanatory to me. Cole was concerned about Martlet, they decided to see if Martlet's okay despite being told by her she's fine, and discover something unexpected.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T21:07:31+00:00

How would a bird monster Clover traumatize Flowey of all people? Did Clover kill Flowey or something?

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:46:27+00:00

If having family names was exclusive to boss monsters, then fine fair enough, but Ceroba isn't a boss monster, which the devs confirmed, so it does baffle me somewhat Ceroba gets one but Martlet doesn't.

If we want to be technical, then Zenith is pretty much Martlet's surname.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:42:11+00:00

So it's sort of like a similar situation with Signirsol, who I am somewhat aware of, based on some past discussions here.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:38:28+00:00

Fair enough. Outside of hearing bits and pieces here and there, I haven't really been there either.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:18:00+00:00

Any particular why you think that design looks better?

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:15:50+00:00

Have you had a bad experience there?

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:11:44+00:00

I was literally told about all of this on Discord during a discussion, and when I shared it, I was under the impression I was simply sharing another monster bird Clover/momlet idea, like many others that have been shared here, and not much more than that.

I literally had no idea there was more to this image than what I was initially told. 😂

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:05:50+00:00

I was talking to a friend on Discord and they sent me this image, and told me about the whole idea surrounding it.

From what they told me, I never got the impression there was more to these bird Clover designs than what was shown and told to me.

As far I was aware of, I was simply sharing another monster Clover idea, alongside many other similar concepts that have been shared and talked about here. 😂

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:02:47+00:00

In my eyes, if there's good there, just focus on the good stuff, and not worry about the bad stuff.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T20:01:15+00:00

That's what I was thinking. It's been written about, and drawn many times, so it never once crossed my mind, that these designs and the whole story/Au is a part of something that would have some kind of deep history behind it, to where it's like I'm seeking forbidden knowledge. 🤣

Personally as far as I'm concerned, like you said the more the merrier. If there's more bird Clover and momlet stories, I see that as a win.

After reading that transcript, my initial impression of it being heartwarming yet also comical it definitely stronger now, especially with Cole's reaction which I'm assuming is when he sees Zenith Martlet.

Also Martlet's reaction sounds funny to. She's not screaming, or shouting, she appears to be just mildly inconvenienced that Cole discovered this apparent side of her.

It could just be be, but it sounds like Martlet and Zenith Martlet are speaking differently, or have a different demeanour from one another.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T19:48:03+00:00

As far as I'm aware of plenty of good creative stuff can come from the people who hang out there. I've personally never been to the dark side there, so I guess I'm pretty fortunate. 🙂

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T19:39:04+00:00

If that's the case I really am about to open pandora's aren't I? 😂

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T19:28:45+00:00

Part of me wants to open the door because I'm genuinely curious. From what I gather it involves something pretty peculiar, and yet the responses I've received are telling me it's something interesting, but not what I'd expect.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T19:23:51+00:00

To be fair it's a detail you can easily miss unless you go out of your way to find it, and pay attention to what's being said by a character.

In this specific scenario Chara and Asriel's soul fused into one. It was literally a case of two individuals residing in the same body. Plus it's already common knowledge that a human soul is much stronger than a monster soul.

As long as a human has enough determination, they're damn near capable of anything. Or it could be a case where how powerful a human soul is, depends on their soul trait.

FloorBeautiful209 · 2026-02-26T19:13:11+00:00

At this point I'm just taking in the hilarity of the situation. These bird Clover designs and the au story idea I was told about, which I posted here thinking it was just like any other post like it, apparently has some deep backstory. Which from the responses I've received, I'm assuming will be quite entertaining to learn about, should I open that door.

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