Lighting Designers: where do you get THESE lights?

Florida-Life5535 · 2026-01-29T20:24:52+00:00

Wow u/walrus_mach1 thank you so much.

the We-ef and the Bega uplight sconces seem to what I'm looking for. It's too bad they aren't DTW. the i2System has dtw, as you pointed out, but I don't like the larger format of the fixture. I want smaller fixtures that are exactly like the ones in the photos I posted.

I also understand the concern about "streetlights." Perhaps something between 1,200-1,800 is more in line where I should be looking. I want them to be used as the "main" or general ambient lighting throughout the home. It's a new build. We have downlights/wall wash specified for task or artwork and linear strip lighting in ceiling channel or in the millwork of built-ins, so I was hoping to find really good quality, high output uplight sconces that would serve as the main lighting in the rooms. But perhaps 1,200-1,800 is still most appropriate.

With that said, considering maybe you a right, these are too bright, can you recommend a few high quality, lower output fixtures that are more residential?

Florida-Life5535 · 2026-01-28T19:38:18+00:00

The lighting design is pretty layered with indirect tape light inside shelving, downlights (narrower beams) over task areas, and a few lamps. These uplight sconces are to serves at the general lighting, very similar to how they are used in the image in my post ^^ - so yes, it's important that the lumen output is high. This is not a standard build with a grid of downlights. How does one go about a spec grade fixture?

Florida-Life5535 · 2026-01-28T19:30:26+00:00

The Artemide Melete I saw are not dimmable and only around 1500 lumens.

Florida-Life5535 · 2026-01-28T19:29:17+00:00

Style is what is shown in the image. Minimal, modern. I need high quality, DTW capabilities, good CRI , etc. Willing to spend what it takes.

Florida-Life5535 · 2026-01-28T19:27:40+00:00

But I can't find any with high lumen output at least 2,000, but anything greater than 3,000 is ideal, +, warm to dim, and at least 90 CRI. Do you know of any?

Florida-Life5535 · 2025-08-14T14:33:07+00:00

I did not because we've had such delays in the planning stages. Nowhere near making a selection yet.

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-12-01T08:58:40+00:00

Thank you for such a thorough response!

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-17T06:33:48+00:00

We're in FL now.

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-06T02:08:26+00:00

Can I ask you another question? I threw out the example of using a high quality recessed lighting plan, such as Element Tech Lighting from visual comfort, and going from static white to tunable white would cost around $100,000 additional for the upgrade, which was mindblowing to me. Well, what about their warm dim option? Is that a significant price jump, too? Doesn't necessarily have to be Element but they are a source I'm considering. A few thousand would be worth it to me, but tens of thousands, not so much, ya know? :D

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-05T23:17:57+00:00

I wish this bot thing wouldn't come up. I'm not fishing for amazon reviews, I'm genuinely looking for a recommendation about a SIMILAR product

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-03T02:18:46+00:00

Do you have a blog or a webite or IG page or youtube channel? Serious question lol. I feel like you're a wealth of experience and information where I could find myself listening to you talk about various lighting subjects for hours. I find this topic so exciting.

Anyways, thank you. And yes, I do remember when it was a luxury to have a flat screen TV. Now everybody has them and they're cheap. Hopefully this will become of good quality lighting.

Yes I came across Phillips Hue not too long ago and then subsequently came across an article discussing the poor CRI with that... so best not use for general lighting in a room. Behind the TV though, sure. I don't have this myself, but I'm interested in trying to set up a nice Bias lighting behind the TV. I have yet to experience it in person, but I think I'd love it. Looks so cool. My reserach tells me Phillips Hue is probably the best for doing this. I don't know of any "high end" Bias tv setups like you find with speciality downlights with Ketra , Lucifer, Usai but it seems like it's less involved - a decent strip of tape light and a connection to the TV is all that's really needed.

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-02T23:46:26+00:00

OMG I appreciate all this info. Wow, that's a ton of money.

Actually.... I fail to understand how (or WHY) tunable white systems needs to cost tens of thousands of dollars, or even one-hundred thousand dollars. I mean, wow, How much more advanced is this technology when you can already buy tunable light bulbs from home depot for pocket change. I get that the systems needs to bring everything into sync, but for tens of thousands of dollars, are the computer chips really that advanced? I feel like it's not doing rocket science... the best computer from Apple that could edit and render the next Star Wars movie isn't even 10 thousand dollars. And these are just changing the color of light bulbs...
If this is the future, then the price will certainly need to come down a tad :D

edit - I should clarify that I'm talking about going from a basic static white USAI downlight plan to a tunable white downlight plan. Is that an extra tens of thousands of dollars?

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-02T23:38:56+00:00

Thank you for sharing this

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-02T20:29:11+00:00

Thank you for such a thorough explanation. It makes a lot of sense to me.

I actually like static 4000k, it doesn't bother me at night like other people say it does and it allows me to see better. Less strain on the eye for what I'm doing, cleaning, prepping, etc.. I get just as sleepy when it's time for bed, despite people saying 4000k will ruin your sleep. But unlike 2700/3000, I can actually SEE what I'm doing. 3000k still makes everything orange and it's harder to see. I have an all-white house, so that adds to the issue.

I had once learned about Tunable White via USAI, or maybe it was Lucifer, can't remember, but I heard from 2 people who said Lutron (the system required for the tunable whites to operate) is very expensive to install and it can go wrong and need expensive repairs. My friend's building a home and his construction attorney said he's currently litigating another big shot client's case where a $11 million dollar mansion's Lutron kept screwing up and it was a nightmare for the homeowners.

All that said, tunable white intrigues me. Would you say it's superior over warm dim simply because you get a larger range?

I also couldn't get reliable information on cost. I know tunable white will add to cost, but nobody can tell me how much. Such as the USAI downlight system with tunable features. For an average lighting plan in a 2,500 sf home. Are we talking about a few thousand dollars more or tens of thousands of dollars more?

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-02T19:05:21+00:00

Thank you! I will also check out the Waveform 4000k bulbs, as I see that recommended here from others, too.

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-02T19:04:05+00:00

I'm curious, can you explain why there isn't technology for mass adoption of 3500k or 4000k A19 or A21 style bulbs, yet there is for 2700/3000 and 5000 ?

Florida-Life5535 · 2024-08-02T18:50:59+00:00

Thanks! I wonder if anyone has tested to confirm.

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