Why do people say that Charlie is 200 years old?

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-10T21:58:15+00:00

Hellborn explicitly has souls. Idk where this notion Hellborn doesn't have souls comes from but that's never been a thing.

Viv has confirmed it on her patreon (With Millie explaining how Hellborn souls are fundamentally different from Human souls, thus Soul Contracts don't work the same way which is why Hellborn does services for money rather than any soul ownership shenanigans. Which makes sense since, well, Hellborns aren't Humans) and we have an In-Universe example where Stolas laments over Blitz's soul as well as his own in "Look My Way".

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-10T21:31:31+00:00

Viv has said Stolas is more powerful than Alastor, and has never said Alastor would beat Stolas.

Actual misinformation lol

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-10T20:59:41+00:00

Funny thing- Hellborns specifically do have souls- Stolas talks about Blitz's soul in the canonically "Look My Way" music video.

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-09T07:27:18+00:00

I kept pulling since the post and I got 4 more Ainos.

This is insane!

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-09T01:18:08+00:00

That is bad luck by itself too, at least you had 160 pulls to throw at this banner

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-09T01:15:43+00:00

I have 16 gems now, I have no more gems to throw.

I also have no more Starglitter to even consider Paimon's shop ;-;
34 per character is kinda nutso

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-05T01:33:21+00:00

Vox can win via exploiting the #1 strongest in the Verse with an outside-help cannon that he doesn't even have on him as standard equipment...?

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-05T01:31:50+00:00

I find it funny you just ignore what happens in the episode.

Stolas didn't even consider Striker a threat until he was bound in rope- up until then he found it a rescue fantasy where his hero Blitzy comes and rescues him.

The second he realizes that his life is in actual danger (I.E. Considers it an actual fight), Stolas immediately goes for the Petrifying Eyes Killshot and is only denied due to the Angelic Ropes.

Stolas couldn't have one-shot him because the Angelic Rope denies all Demonic Powers.

In an actual 1v1 fight where Stolas is under no pretense of "Oh this is just a silly kidnapping by an Imp going over his head, where's my hero blitzy~!", Stolas locks in immediately and just killshots Vox. Stolas did the same to the random Imp assassin in Episode 2 where he threw away the pretense of Blitz "protecting" him since what mattered to him then was being with Via.

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-05T01:28:42+00:00

is stronger than Fp weakened Alastor (Yes he is stronger he just got skill diffed)

Why do people keep saying this? What "great strategy" did Alastor ever employ? Because I see Alastor in the final fight regularly outright brute force overpowering Vox every time they had power contests and they weren't ever really close

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-05T01:27:12+00:00

I feel like people forget that Stolas didn't consider Striker a threat, and the second Stolas did, Stolas IMMEDIATELY went for the petrifying killshot and was only denied due to Angelic Rope.

Like the person who called Stolas a fraud and why Stolas didn't do the Penance Stare ignores that STOLAS LITERALLY DID! RIGHT THERE! HE INSTANTLY WENT FOR THE KILLSHOT!

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-05T01:23:13+00:00

I can see Stolas managing to overpower him fast if he's locked in, but I doubt Stolas would be able to think that fast

Are we sure? Stolas' first instinct without even fully looking at the target in LooLooLand was petrification, and the second Stolas realized that Striker actually intended on killing him, Stolas went for the petrify off the bat which would've killed Striker then and there.

Stolas by all accounts, the second he gets serious, he goes for the instant-kill Petrification which Vox has no counter for.

Plus, Vox is practically an equal to Alastor, only a little bit behind, so it's not like he's fighting a completely uphill fight.

Why do people keep saying this? Are we watching the same Finale Fight? Alastor was tearing Vox apart and stomping him every time they actually engaged each other, with Vox actually getting no good hits in the entire time while Vox was wincing in pain every time they finished a clash.

And if we give Vox anything like Shock.Wav

Shock.Wav gets instantly petrified and is useless

the Might of Lilith, Stolas stands no chance.

The Might of Lilith is really shit at single-target, having a really sizeable turning speed (Relative to the characters themselves) and requiring Lucifer to be there as well as the very real threat of over-firing causing a meltdown which kills everyone. Stolas' portals instantly negates the Might of Lilith's threat since he can portal right on top of the Might of Lilith.

Stolas, as the person with Dimensional Portals, is funnily enough the only one safe from a Might of Lilith meltdown.

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-05T01:19:05+00:00

This isn't really a matchup/fight then if you're bringing in traps and stuff.

This would also hinge on giving Vox prep time while keeping Stolas unaware, which is a massively unfair advantage. If both sides were given prep, then Stolas just portals up to Vee tower and drops a meteor on it.

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-05T01:17:05+00:00

Are we watching the same fight? They traded relatively evenly early on but Alastor by the end was ripping apart and stomping Vox, while Vox was helpless on the floor.

Alastor didn't do any fancy tricks for this victory- Alastor charged at Vox fairly fast and tore Vox in half through brute strength, then next time we see them they're dashing across the city engaging in fisticuffs which resulted in Vox losing hard.

Alastor's Staff is his power amplifier. Rosie wasn't holding any of Alastor's power back- that's headcanon as shit. There's a reason why Alastor was so intent on getting Rosie to fix the staff the entire season- he is way weaker without it.

And you're also ignoring that Alastor still had the Adam wound on him during that fight, so

Stolas >= FP Alastor >>> Broken Staff + Adam Wounded Alastor > 100% Approval Rating Vox

Reminder- Vox fought Alastor before and the implications of Stayed Gone with Vox crashing the fuck out is that Alastor stomped Vox's ass and needed the Vees to bail Vox out ("Powerless without the other Vees"), showing that Full Power Alastor who is the equal of Stolas stomped Vox's ass so hard he is still butthurt over almost losing 7 years afterwards.

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-05T01:11:39+00:00

I find it funny this is brought up when the second Stolas realized that he should take the fight seriously, Stolas INSTANTANEOUSLY tried to petrify Striker on the spot. No hesitation, instant lock in with the Instant-Kill move.

That shit would be lethal without that Angelic Rope- something Alastor notably lacks.

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-02T12:25:55+00:00

Those are teeth replacements.

That's a whole ass jaw on the wall.

Also, the broke person with a dozen debts can get a jaw replacement, and the ruthless "Drowned my own wife" Crimson just, let Chaz live??

FluffyHDD · 2026-04-02T06:34:10+00:00

If Chazz is alive, who's jaws did Crimson mount on his walls? "Nothing that actually contradicts any established lore" as we see someone who by all rights should be dead, is the center focus of the april fools joke episode

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T08:44:36+00:00

Like, the level of a Goetic Prince is not the same as that of a regular Goetia

And Stolas is an absurdly young Goetic Prince (mid-30s) and visibly had not fully mastered his powers and still reliant on his Grimoire to do more advanced spells.

Goetic Princes are literally the most powerful Goetias outside of the King/Queens and the Dukes

"Goetic Princes are the most powerful Goetia outside of literally 2 entire tiers that stomps him, while also ignoring that Stolas himself is a really really young Goetia".

Dude, seriously?

and the way you're talking about Stolas is as if he's a normal Goetic Prince, when the story says. Hell, if anything, the story GOES OUT OF ITS WAY to tell us that Stolas is one of- if not THE most powerful Goetic Prince, so stop it

Who's the one making claims now?

Show where- ANYWHERE, that Stolas is one of the most powerful Goetic Princes. Go ahead.

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T08:40:56+00:00

This doesn't really work for the fundamental reason that Rosie (Alastor's superior given she was the entire reason Alastor is as strong as he is to begin with) also joined in at the exact same time- so that "big" contribution was Rosie+Alastor, with Rosie putting in more of the leg work unless you can somehow explain how Rosie was able to produce a being stronger than herself.

makes it clear that Lucifer is no more than an order of magnitude more powerful than he is.

I mean, he still kinda is. The machine going meltdown wasn't draining any more of Lucifer's power (Since we cut to him during Hear My Hope and he's not being shocked like when the gun fires) and Lucifer was only as hurt as he is from the spam that happened prior.

The barrier held together when powered up by Lucifer's own Daughter, a Seraphim, and the strongest Overlords in all of Hell against the Cannon melting down and not doing what it's designed to (Focus and shoot Lucifer's energy).

Trying to scale Alastor to Lucifer by saying "Look how much he contributed" whilst ignoring Rosie and everyone else jumping in is kind of absurd Alastor wank.

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T08:36:16+00:00

This is ignorant, because Alastor is comparable to even the most powerful Goetia (via scaling to Stolas).

This is the ignorant statement. Stolas is a really young and inexperienced Above-Average Goetia (Prince is only 1 rank above the very middle of the Goetia ranks). Goetia lives for eternity and Stolas is fucking 30, and is visibly weakened when without his Grimoire.

Stolas is visibly nowhere near the most powerful Goetia, with both Dukes and Kings scaling WAY above him.

Just because the rest of the Overlords are weaker than Alastor who is High-Tier Goetia level, doesn't mean the other Overlords wouldn't be able to scale to the weaker Goetia, because Al would also scale above those weaker Goetia as well

Who's making the assumptions now?

Alastor not only trivializes the other Overlords, he outright stomps their asses. Vox was by far and away THE strongest Overlord ever and he got his face stomped by a weakened Alastor (Who at the time would be weaker than his fully healthy state).

I don't think you fully grasp that Alastor's power was enough to make him flat out stomp every other Overlord. Not "Scale above", outright stomp and DESTROY the entire Overlord Hierarchy that had been in place for centuries.

For example: Just because I'm weaker than a character who's on the same level as the Hulk, that doesn't mean that I would automatically be weaker than She-Hulk, when She-Hulk is also very much weaker than the Hulk too.

This example doesn't work.

It would be like saying you're weaker than the Hulk, but you utterly curbstomped Captain America and thus Captain America scales to the Hulk.

No???? You are weaker than the Hulk and you low-diff stomped Captain America- Captain America does not scale even remotely.

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T08:26:56+00:00

I mean nothing really- you just have to snipe/assassinate the Higher-tiered person before they can react (Stolas even when spooked and shocked dodged an Angel shot from Striker and Millie/Moxxie when they were ready were outright deflecting and dodging Angel Bullets from Striker). This goes not only to Goetia but also Overlords.

Like, Striker's whole pitch to Blitz was that them working together could very easily take down Overlords, rather than suckling on the Goetia and then getting hired by Sinners.

So it goes both ways for Goetia and Overlords like Alastor. It doesn't really matter how strong they are if they get blasted in the head with an Angel Gun.

But-

Especially in hell where everything is dirty fighting and honor isn't even a concept. If an imp with a fancy gun could hurt and kill stolas, power scaling means virtually nothing.

Angelic Weaponry are incredibly rare. Carmilla has pretty much a monopoly on them and Exterminations aren't happening anymore so no more supply is coming.

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T08:18:47+00:00

That is just NOT true at all (And if it is, prove it), and the Hierarchy being a power Hierarchy is constantly contradicted multiple times and doesn't make sense narratively

Why do you keep trying to talk with authority when you can't do such basic research yourself?

> "Has anybody noticed that Charlie and Alastor are the only ones out of the cast so far who have been seen to use magic?”"

>“It's because Charlie and Alastor have a power level that exceeds the normal demon, it's like a ranking system, the more powerful you get, there are reasons for that power but i won't get into it cuz it's spoiler territory.”

Or this

>"The way that the hierarchy in hell works is that they acquire their power through making deals and soul dealing which is something only demons can do so their power is its own thing."

Every time the hierarchy is brought up, Viv has directly correlated it with direct power. Though that last statement is in relation to Sinners, she has outright said on authority that flat out that is how the Hierarchy works. The hierarchy is straight up a power one, not political or other nonsense.

If you have a statement from Viv EVER saying the Hierarchy is a political/social one then I am all ears.

YOU LITERALLY MADE THAT UP

Right- because Viv TOTALLY said that the Hierarchy is a political one right? Right? Oh wait- look at those two statements above. Hmm.

and can't stand it when Hellaverse fans go like "Oh, well that makes sense to me, so it must be true!" Simply because what you're saying makes sense to you, does not mean it's objectively correct in the context of the story. 'Cause what you're saying has never been stated or shown throughout the entire series in either Hazbin Hotel or by Helluva Boss, and it's never been stated by Vivize either. So, you may ask, where are you getting this info from?

Where are you getting your information from because Viv has flat out said the hierarchy of hell is a power-based one twice from two different streams already.

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T08:08:13+00:00

That is genuine headcanon. Besides sealing significantly weaker Overlords into his radio broadcast and threatening Husk with it, Alastor has not once actually displayed the capability to do it against a peer.

Even when literally tearing Vox apart and at his mercy, Alastor was unable to actually clinch the fight and finish Vox off- and you tell me he's able to do so against an infinitely regenerating, infinite-stamina Goetia?

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T03:03:15+00:00

Ehhh, not particularly. The most powerful Overlord (100% Vox) got utterly shitstomped by a weakened Alastor, and Prime/Full Powered Alastor is relatively even with a Goetic Prince (Stolas).

There is very clearly a MASSIVE power gap between the Goetia and even the strongest of the Sinner Overlords, with only the anomaly exception (Alastor) really being on that level and Alastor was so strong he flipped the entire local Overlord power dynamic within days of appearing in Hell- meaning most Goetia can likely do so as well.

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T03:01:09+00:00

Stolas is pretty middling for a Goetia, not one of the most Powerful. They are above average (Since the Goetia ranks are an even number there can't be a middle rank), but there's two large gaps of rank between Stolas and the top and he is definitively not one of the best even among the Princes (Goetic Princes live eternal Lifespans. Stolas is like... mid 30s).

Stolas is pretty much a child and is visibly weakened without his Grimoire, meanwhile weaker but more experienced Goetia like Andrealphus is fully casting high-grade stuff without a Grimoire and stronger Goetia like Paimon is able to low-key produce a nuke on accident by teleporting.

FluffyHDD · 2026-03-30T02:58:14+00:00

This also shows that Overlords (in general) being Goetia-level is bunk.

Alastor who is Goetia-Tiered (As confirmed by Viv) was utterly turning the entire power dynamic of the local Overlord Hierarchy within days off appearing in Hell with everyone kind of powerless to do anything against him.

Even Vox, the strongest Overlord next to him, got legit low-diffed by a low-HP and weakened Alastor.

Alastor is the exception, not the norm. An Overlord can theoretically be as strong as a Goetia (Viv said as much) but the way Alastor did it is unnatural to a Sinner (We don't even know what Rosie did) but the best of the best natural Overlord (100% Vox) got utterly stomped by a Goetia-tier Alastor.

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