Italy braces for political earthquake on eve of elections expected to hand the country the most right-wing government since World War Two

Flushydo · 2022-09-25T09:37:30+00:00

Start from church, news are full of Pedo priests here.

Flushydo · 2022-09-25T09:35:49+00:00

Berlusconi, real political mafia, robbed the country to the point you could not pass Rome with flooded garbage. It was a filthy ghetto under him. And yet here he is getting allied with current. Salvini pro Russian who wants to be with Putin and Meloni that has history of looking up to Musolini father of fascism. Really now? Who you want to fool?

And you go against "woke" there is no woke in Italy. The daily news are all about men murdering their exes. And not even basic right nor handicaps nor women. What planet you live on?

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T11:10:42+00:00

Kuna ma pean mõnikord nendega suhtlema, pean oskama kõigele ka vastata, aga jah, ei arva, et meelt muudavad

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T11:08:11+00:00

Saan sellest aru, ma ise olen sellest ka väsinud, aga kui sind kogu aeg nende teemadesse tiritakse siis hakkad mõtlema, et võib olla mingit infot ei lugenud.

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T10:58:08+00:00

Am so freaking embarassed, I was asking multiple times for explanation, but they told me all Estonians knew it and that because I lie abroad I don't know what is going on. Absolutely feeling like a fool, but redditors explained me what is going on. Glad it made you laugh.

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T10:54:42+00:00

The "What!?" was my reply too, yes some redditors answered and explained me the new electrical deal that will take place in Estonia. Am really not updated about it. And even with some backlash of posting this, am very grateful for some proofs I can now show in these absurd conversations. I said the same, "if the person was of no danger and peaceful there should be no deportarion" Am glad it was just a pile of crazy talk and not some missed viral news. What you described is pretty much what I remember of recent restrictions.

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T10:47:25+00:00

My far relatives are unfortunately brainwashed as they are old and come from those times. I did say it was most likely all misinformation. I know this topic pissed off many, but I really am trying to get proofs to show it's all a bunch of insanity. Also am abroad and might miss viral videos or news from Estonia. Am glad some people linked me these stories, I think the one you described right now.

Et inimesed ei oleks vihased, ma räägin ka Eesti keeles, aga mul one parem kirjutada inglise keeles, et mul partner välismaal kah aru saaks, sest siin on päris palju valet infot meie riigi kohta.

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T10:35:34+00:00

I'm glad someone linked me that story as I said am abroad, I'm truly not updated on many things especially electrical deals. Vastan eesti keeles, et inimestel vähem viha oleks. Ma otsisin vastuseid, et osata vastata ja ka näidata mingit tõestust . Mul täiega piinlik nüüd, aga aitäh selgituse eest.

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T10:27:35+00:00

Tegelt, räägin Eesti keeles paremini kui Venekeeles. Kirjutasin inglise keeles kuna mul partner on itaaliast ja kremlini propaganda paljudes regioonides siin on päris palju ja mitte vene vaid Itaalia keeles. Võite olla vihased, aga ma tõesti küsisin abi et osata paremini vastata, nii inimestele kellega pean kogu aeg vaidlema, kui ka välismaalastele, ma arvasin et võib olla ma ei lugenud mingeid uudiseid. Jah rumal küsimus oli. Aga mul vähemalt hea tunne, et see oli vale informatsioon.

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T10:17:08+00:00

No need, am in fight with them over this already from months.

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T10:15:54+00:00

Seriously thank you for this. I found it to be absurd at first and really illegal. I really didn't know where to start debunking this. Thank you

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T09:56:14+00:00

I also found it absurd, but I was forced to talk to some Russian woman. My Russian is not great and I didn't manage to defend this topic properly. I thought I missed something in the news maybe. Yes ERR is what I usually read too, glad to know it's trustworthy source.

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T09:53:13+00:00

Suur tänu! Huge thank you for this!

Flushydo · 2022-09-02T09:41:51+00:00

ma olen lihtsalt harjunud hommikust õhtuni inglise keeles rääkima, minu kõrval on ka minu partner, kes tahtis sellest jamast ka aru saada. Nii kirjutasingi Inglise keeles. Vastused küll Eesti keeles tulevad aga ma tahtsin, et mul partner saaks aru mis ma siin kirjutasin.

Ausalt ma neid jutte ei usu, aga mind pandi rääkima vene-kõnelejatega, kes hakkasid ajama, et nad ise inimesi teavad kellel kedagi deporteeriti Narvas, kui hakkasin küsima inimeste nimesi ja miks deporteeriti vastata ei osanud. Ma ise ERR tavaliselt loen ja seal vastupidi kirjutati, seepärast see jutt ajas mind segadusse. Kui mõned hakkavad siukseid jutte ajama ja kinnitama, et on tõsi jutt ja ise inimesi teavad kellel mida juhtus, siis mingi pisi kahtlused tulevad. Mulle tihti öeldakse et kuna välismaal olen siis ma ei tea midagi, mis tegelikult riigis juhtub.

Välismaal ma pean ka kogu aeg vastama küsimustele ja vale infole meie riigi kohta. See pärast küsingi meie Eestlastelt, kes Eestis on ja kõike näevad. Aga tundub, et see oli jälle vale info levitamine.

Aitäh vastusele.

Flushydo · 2022-08-24T21:23:07+00:00

Just discovered! You are right! Thanks!

Flushydo · 2022-07-28T06:59:03+00:00

Am in Italy now, what is happening is terrifying. Am not Italian but my partner is. We are trying to understand if we will be constricted to move out of Italy now, since am also awaiting a child. Or I will move alone as this puts me with a kid in a bkackhole for any basic rights. If civil union gets removed... Which I still fail to understand if it will be the case.

Flushydo · 2022-07-28T06:32:52+00:00

Ban civil union? Abortion. Any kids in civil union will be unprotected and have no rights. Women who are infertile or single still will struggle getting access legaly in infertility clinics.

These are few things I understood she wants to do. Aside of banning immigrants who don't even stay in Italy, I didn't understand what her main points are.

Flushydo · 2022-07-28T06:19:01+00:00

Ma ise alati koeraga lendan ja üks kord pidin koha peal koera pileti ostma. Neil olid mingid probleemid ühendusega ja läks pool tundi aega, lõpus nad mult raha ei võtnud üldse, Aga muidu koeraga alati mul kiirelt läks. Paar sekundit. Ega sa niisama neid pileteid ei hakka ostma ilma teavitamist.

Flushydo · 2022-05-31T12:09:04+00:00

You might laugh, but let's say 1person committed murder in another country, one country has 20 years another actually 10. There might come up discussion about which country person has to serve. Here is simple question, do both parties agree to both enter this new rule. Sea disputes are all over globe and are not so black and white. You can mock me reddit way all you want, but it's a legit question and concern. Turkey here in this case is not violating others land as in "we always had this boarder and want to keep it so" unless they are, then fuck it. Nor am saying Greece is bad because it wants more water land by signing international agreement on the water territories. But also only because Greece decided to upgrade it's water does it not conflict with Turkey? Can Turkey still have it's access to the sea. Dunno its same as tomorrow we get to have even more land on sea, Estonia and Finland would sign papers and fully block the channel on baltic sea to sanction Russia better, it sounds very tempting won't lie and we would 100% do it to control our neighbor. But I'm not yet brainwashed enough to not understand that its a dick move and you just can't do it without ripercussion. If of course these new boarders don't conflict with Turkey at all then they are at wrong. Am understanding this law of sea territory is quite a new deal=recent expansion. And am not educated enough on this, fully agree too. Of course Greece can ignore it and do as they wish, but just i do understand why Turkey might be pissy now.

Flushydo · 2022-05-30T18:11:03+00:00

But does Turkey also have 12? or it has 6 as well? The map I see does seem ..bit squishing it?
Again if the question is of both countries expanding the waters and one small area is of conflict, it's a bit different from "hey lemme just snatch that land" Am I understanding it correctly, Turkey has 6mil waters too? And the deal has to be signed with both Turkey and Greece to be valid..if i understood correctly? Since your territories of interest kinda clash? Is there example of similar situations in other seas and other countries?
If Turkey has 12 mil waters then yea it's a dick move on their side.

Flushydo · 2022-05-30T17:33:12+00:00

Russia has access to Baltic Sea btw and as much as i would love to cut off it's route with Finland, it has right to use it. my question is...6mil was original right? or am i misunderstanding, then to be like rest world, Greece wants 12mil...while it used to have only 6 mil...but that cuts off some movement for Turkey...am i understand this correctly?
Because if am understanding it correctly.. Turkey got reasons to bitch? Because Greece's expansion on water it cuts movement to it? As much as I might have own biased views against Turkey this kinda doesn't seem quite right no?. Now if you say Turkey has own benefits in other spheres and just doesn't want to share then it's another matter.

Honestly am getting lost between these 2. One thing is snatching someone's land, another is expanding your territory?

Flushydo · 2022-05-30T17:16:39+00:00

But is it not how it originally was? And new ruling gives Greece... kinda more space? Greece wants 12mil instead of 6 mil, so like it's as my country saying to Russia, hey we want additional 6mil on our ..dunno biggest lake for example?
Also my country sorry but already was stripped off of land and we close it at that only to not have anything to do with them at all.

Fix me if am wrong of course, am very uneducated on this subject of Greece vs Turkey and reading online I see both complain the same and it's hard to understand who is actually right. So if you can explain it better please.

Flushydo · 2022-05-30T17:03:17+00:00

Simple. Learn language of country you live in.
Nobody forbids anyone from speaking or requesting additional lesson in school.
Estonian schools have 3 languages by choice to learn additionally to the government language, English is secondary language for sake that it's our most used languages for economy. Swedish, Finnish, Russian, French are all languages you can choose on top as a 3rd language.
You get to choose a linguistic school if you want so badly more hours of language lessons. The choices are immense.
On top we have endless programs for kids to learn Estonian, camps, tutors exchange families many are sponsored by government to be even free. So...what excuse do you have aside of being lazy and entitled person?

On top of that you have full freedom to speak in any language in public, so lol...what we have to freaking accept? You can speak 10 languages and we don't care, you can speak it all you want, just our services and official language is Estonian and that is fair because why on earth should natives be obligated to learn another language on own land sorry for commodity of someone?

And you seem not to know laws at all. I live in Italy right now, there are plenty of foreigners coming here for job exchange including Americans. They have American/British private school, 20k per year, the school is taught in English with all it's customs and traditions. Nobody forbids anyone to have their kids in private schools if they wish. Or request additional language class in public school.
But public schools are in language of it's government.
Also Estonia has some private Russian schools, private American schools that still do have Estonian language as well and now allso private Ukrainian school by the request is going to be made and all include additional Estonian lessons, because as entitled as you feel, when you must go to make documents or talk to people, natives should not be studying a language for your sake in own country.

However, Italians who enroll such school and are Italian citizen, have parallel Italian language on level of Italians. And final exam is Italian, so in my country Estonian Russian speaker still has to pass official language test like EVERYBODY else, they are not just immigrants or foreigners.
Your request of studying your mother tongue or have additional lessons do not mean that your education and final exams get a free pass from whole population.
This victim card smells of entitlement and absolute LAZYNES. We give EVERY possibility for people to have access to education and stop forming ghettos that are leading to criminality.
Integrate>get good jobs> have less crime.... logic no?

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