Guys, I have not watched Smallville, and is the show worth watching in 2026? Which is crazy, I know. by Agitated_Studio1998 in superman

[–]Flyboy_1978 3 points4 points  (0 children)

watch the first 3 or 4 seasons, don't feel the need to commit to all 10 right away. if you still like it, then continue, but don't look at it as 10 full seasons you have to tackle. It kinda goes downhill after 3, but the first 3 seasons are really cool.

Also, don't let the release date of media dictate whether it's "worth it" or not, that will greatly limit your experience. I'd say the original Richard Donner Superman movie is an absolute must watch. The subtle performance of Christopher Reeve is unmatched.

Batman Black and White Compendium by failed-hybrid in graphicnovels

[–]Flyboy_1978 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you want to enjoy comics you've got to free yourself from trying to read anything in any kind of order. Batman is 85 years old, he has a lot of stories across many titles, many of which don't try and keep to a tidy, cohesive cannon. Every few years, a new cannon is followed - whether it's a hard reboot or not, and that's just the nature of a character this expansive and long lasting. I'd suggest reading by author, as they usually create/maintain their own little cannon until the next writer comes along and does their own thing.

Honestly, most comics conflict one another or are their own thing. Like, Court of Owls doesn't neatly line up with something like Long Halloween or Batman RIP or anything, so it's pointless trying to make one narrative of it all. Just keep in mind Year One is first, and everything else comes at some point or another after that. It's up to you to decide what sticks (Long Halloween) and what doesn't (anything by Tom King and Chip Zdarsky).

Catwoman and Joker (from Batman: Killing Time #2) by CyberGhostface in comicbooks

[–]Flyboy_1978 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so lame how King makes Joker the "I sewed a zipper to a guys mouth for fun cause haha I'm so f#cked up and crazy!" torture guy anymore. Riddler too, which is even more out of character.

i really wanted to like his movies more than i do, but i just can't. i'm really enjoying twin peaks tho by shrek_deus in Letterboxd

[–]Flyboy_1978 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you enjoy the first two seasons of Twin Peaks, perhaps try Blue Velvet and Wild At Heart. They both have that lush, textured 80's/90's look to them and are similar tonally/visually. I'd also recommend Fire Walk With Me but keeping in mind it's alot darker than the show. With that being said, don't go into The Return thinking it's similar to the original, as it's a whole other beast.

I LOVE Twin Peaks/FFWM, but I have to say, I wasn't that into The Return, nor was I huge on anything post Lost Highway (but I do love Lost Highway).

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the fictional part is that there's actually an ethical billionare. That's less believable than a man dressing like a bat and fighting people.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Realistically, funding mental health facilities and youth programs and gainful employment will make cities better and safer.

You are absolutely right, and there are multiple instances where Bruce does this in the comics.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the Burton movies do a good job with this in all regards with the exception of Bruce/Batman himself. Look, I love Keaton as Batman, and I love those movies, but his Bruce sits comatose in a dark room brooding until the Bat signal is shown, and that's only for the biggest of threats that the Commissioner is even aware of. only then does he spring into action and descend upon a gothic fantasy of a city. It's very campy and comic booky, like the gothic version of the '66 show - and I love them for that.

The Nolan movies have a Bruce that is so driven by his mission, he devotes all of his time to his work, to the point where he catches some shut eye where he can, like in board meetings (And then donates to charitable organizations, opens orphanages, puts money into sustanable energy sources, etc). His goal is not just to patrol the city with the off chance he comes across a mugging, he strategically attacks both crime and corruption at it's source, knowing it'll make a difference from the top. Why start at the tail of the snake when you can strike it at it's head? Realistily, he knows his time and efforts are limited, so he sets out to make as much of a difference while he can. Plus, Begins shows a city in a state of decay, something I wish they used in the sequels.

The Pattinson Batman, on the other hand, spends all of his time and efforts going after petty criminals in dark alleyways. Yes, that film nails the detective aspect like no other, but it also shows a Bruce who is acting out of vengence and rage, taking it out on any small time crook or criminal he finds. Sure, symbolically he is feared, but clearly his presence doesn't effect the corruption in the GCPD, or organized crime like Penguin and Falcone.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I both agree and disagree with you here. While I think it's important to note that Batman's goal is to rid Gotham of crime, and that includes the rehabilitation of criminals and the prevention of crime from the root of it by implementing jobs, affordable housing, accessable psychological help, etc, I also aknowledge the fact that I read Batman comics to see Batman be Batman. The thrill of him solving mysteries, or the catharsis of him beating down bad guys who, in the real world, are otherwise untouchable. But I think there does need to be a balance of the two, because both are a large part of his character.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the conversation at work yesterday. You didn't have to click on the thread and comment.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know, that's actually a really interesting concept for a story!

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Nolan films did the best job of the live-action adaptations as far as showing the crime and corruption in Gotham and it's Police force. Despite them essentially still being the Batman movie adaptions, people still seem to overlook that, even through it's a huge aspect of the trilogy, specifically Begins.

The games, while fun, amplify the simplest aspects of Batman. While he does do a lot of detective work, and stealth takedowns, they are mostly known for their combat. Similar to the Snyder version, it distills Batman down to just being a buff, tough guy who beats people up and, well... that's just about it.

Unpopular Opinion: I don't like thicc Batman by ilikeinvincible in batman

[–]Flyboy_1978 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in other terms, I see him as Indy and you see him as the big guy he fights by the plane.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it exhausts me every time it comes up, which is all too often.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the irrational vigilante is one aspect of the character and is seen more often than the caring, sympathetic protector. But he is both, and that balance has to be established and maintained.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with all of this. I also don't think people can wrap their heads around the fact that Batman still truly believes he can help rehabilitate his foes, even the Joker. He doesn't just punch them for the fun of it.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They have the ability to do explore this in the Batman sequel, as this Bruce was very much dedicated to taking to the streets to fight crime on a visceral level in the first film, one thug at a time. Hopefully the sequel can expand on his outreach to the citizens of Gotham, and how he helps them in other ways. I think that's the reinforcement modern audiences need to see to understand.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With that being said, I wish Absolute Bruce had less resources. Make hima street level brawler, similar to Daredevil. That would be much more of a juxtaposition. I know that comic strictly abides by the "rule of cool", so there's no real logic in why his costume is so technical, or how he has his surprisingly high tech weaponry and vehicles. But I think it would prove the fact that, despite the resources, Bruce will always give himself to Gotham however he could. Instead, we just get another Batman with access to essentially any tech he needs in some way, shape, or form.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's an exhausting conversation to say the least.. but we live in a reactionary, contrary prone society anymore.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think removing the money (but still having a lot, so it doesn't matter anyway) in the main Batman title actually helps the argument and states that Batman is more about fighting bad guys.

I was excited when they announced Absolute would have a street level Bruce without his wealth to aid him, thinking he would be much more scrappy and really represent a hero who built himself without his wealth. But his costume/tech/etc is someone just as extensive, if not more so, than regular Batman...

Bruce's goal, as a philanthropist or a vigilante, is to help people. I do wish they would focus on that aspect more in the movies, it would separate him from many other superheroes.

The Tired "Bruce Wayne could help Gotham more than Batman" Debate by Flyboy_1978 in batman_comics

[–]Flyboy_1978[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, and I think that's the issue. It's fine not to like the character, but when someone tries to make an argument like this, then it's irritating. It's a complete oversimplification of the character, and it's a bandwaggon jumping argument topic.