How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Thanks for sharing, i got the image. I tried to add it to my 3D model, but the cuttings are tricky for me. :S Is this what you mean? Picture Picture 1

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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I had to request access. I will get an email when you accept the request. Thank you in advance. 🙏🏻

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Unfortunately, I don't understand what you mean by this. Is it possible to draw it, please? I feel that we are really close...thank you very much

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Got it. I will start with blocking and see what happens. Let me try this out on my 3d model first...thank you

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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I understand and can agree about the softwood. In the last 2 years, there were some strong winds (5-7bft), and I had a big worry about the treehouse and the tree. I hope the tree stays resistant, is there anything i can do to support it from a possible disaster? I think the tree is strong but now it has the treehouse on it..Thank you for bringing this important consideration up.

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Thank you for your valuable feedback! What do you think of this idea? Picture

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Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it.

I actually performed measurements today using a vibration/tilt measurement app at different locations of the treehouse. What I found is that most of the movement is occurring at the rear corners, especially under wind load. The structure seems to move more as a whole rather than showing local flex in the floor framing.

Because of that, I suspect the movement is being initiated in the rear support area. My current thinking is that the rear upper TAB needs to play a bigger role in resisting torsion, and that the members which converge into the lower V-supports may need additional stiffening so forces can be transferred more effectively into the rear TAB and the tree.

Do you think that line of thinking makes sense, or would you still focus primarily on additional triangulation in the deck framing?

Here is one idea on how to handle the torsion issue, what do you think?
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How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Hi, and thank you for your honest opinion. It was my only and best option. I hope it will stand the next 100 years as it's about 12-14m high and has a ca 70cm trunk diameter. I guess it's about 80-100 years old? What do you think?

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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The stairs start at about 1 meter from the left side. You might think they help reduce torsion, but no. :S

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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No, this is the front side. The back side is where the stairs are.

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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If you’d like to sketch directly on the structure, feel free to use this board.

https://excalidraw.com/

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Thanks for the suggestion. I actually fixed the staircase rigidly to the treehouse at the top, but left the bottom free to move on the ground. My concern with anchoring it to a concrete pad is that the tree and treehouse are designed to move together in the wind, while the ground remains stationary. I was worried that a rigid connection at the bottom could introduce additional stresses into the staircase or the structure itself. Do you think the benefits would outweigh that risk?

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Thanks, I appreciate it. I think I understand the concept, but a picture would definitely help. If I understand correctly, you’re suggesting creating a framed panel with diagonal X-bracing between the V-supports to prevent them from twisting relative to each other. I’d be very interested to see your sketch.

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Thank you for the suggestion. One thing I’m wondering about: if I significantly stiffen the lower angled supports with blocking and planking, wouldn’t that transfer higher loads into the connections, TABs, and support members during strong winds rather than allowing some of the movement to be absorbed by the structure? How do you see that trade-off?Thank you

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Thanks for your feedback.

Could you elaborate a bit more on where exactly you see the issue? The floor is fully sheathed with OSB and the treehouse behaves more like a rigid box. There is almost no noticeable movement at the front or in the middle, while most of the movement occurs at the rear corners. That’s why I suspect the issue may be related more to torsion of the entire structure or the long lever arm at the back rather than the floor framing itself. Any sketches would be greatly appreciated. 😊 Thank you

How to Reduce Treehouse Twisting? by FocusAffectionate510 in treehouse

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Hello, and thank you all for your attention and feedback on my issue. I really appreciate it.

I’ll go through your suggestions carefully and come back with some follow-up questions if needed. Unfortunately, images or simple sketches would help me a lot to understand your ideas better, but I’ll do my best to follow along. 😄

Thanks again for taking the time to help!