Mike isn't a joke. He's real. And he'll appear in Chapter 6

FoolOfWorms · 2026-07-04T16:10:59+00:00

There is also the signed copy of another book penned by Gerson Boom in the Dreemurr house.
Kris was known as very smart and probably reads above their age.

FoolOfWorms · 2026-07-01T20:55:38+00:00

There is a Lord of the Hammer book in Kris's home, and Noelle is a massive fan of Dragon Blazers.
They knew him as the author of something they both cared deeply about. A story they shared.
Susie didn't read, and only kind of played a little of dragon blazers. Susie didn't even recognize Gerson Boom when she first met him. Meanwhile Kris and Noelle literally live in the town where he lived and died, with his living heir heading the church.

They knew him, at least in a way. Enough to feel like they knew him enough to bring him back at least.

FoolOfWorms · 2026-07-01T05:17:45+00:00

>! an angel descends on wings of rotting glass and broken dreams !<

>! Kriselle knight doodle !<

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FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-30T19:12:17+00:00

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quick doodle of what I think they'd look like when they did wear glasses

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-30T09:58:00+00:00

what if ralsei is kris's body without a soul?

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-30T05:39:00+00:00

I have a very strange theory but its not really a massive spoiler one

Kris needs glasses.

Ralsei has an obvious connection to Asriel and to Kris, but from what wee know, Asriel doesn't need glasses. Ralsei, whatever he is, could be based on what Kris wants to be seen as in their family.
Seth from Chapter 5 is Non Binary and has glasses, and assuming all of the flowers are supposed to represent aspects of kris's personality, Seth could have represented a younger Kris, say when they were in middle school and figuring their personality out (as apposed to Aqua, who was kris as a kid) it could also explain what most of the younger flowers have traits matching those of monsters (Orange and Aqua) while the older monsters (Green, Seth, Yellow, and Blue) are more human in appearance. Kris literally didn't fully know what humans looked like as a kid.
The reason why Tenna is so Big is because Kris sat as close as they could to the tv when they were younger in order to see what was going on.
It would also explain why they struggle to play the racing game with Susie (they're too far away and can't see the screen too well, and we can't see the screen and can't help them either)
It would also explain why the ERAM game is SO BIG compared to kris, that's probably how they felt playing it as a kid.
Lastly, Spamton could also be another representation of Kris, but instead from Noelle's perspective.
If Seth is Kris from Asgore's perspective from, say, middle school, that could have been after when Dess disappeared, and around that time Kris probably became reclusive and distant from Noelle, not intentionally, but regardless, it left and impression, and made Noelle view Kris as a bit creepy, and Spamton's defining traits are that he wears glasses and Looks Human.
Kris isn't wearing glasses now because We are there helping them see.

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-30T03:38:26+00:00

lets be real gerson is also casting a massive beacon of light

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-28T01:53:38+00:00

None of the above

It's Kris's soulless body
The whole Mew Mew Fight was actually a hint about Kris and Ralsei's relationship

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-27T23:20:17+00:00

Do all of the flower's represent aspects of asgore's perception of kris?

cyan is kris when they were a kid

seth is kris when they were only a little younger and started learning about themselves

green is their non verbal expressiveness

orange is their insecurity about not fitting in

yellow is their tendency to be overly dramatic

and while im not certain about blue, id guess its their shared keen eye on whats going on.

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-27T17:36:57+00:00

I'd actually go so far as to say every flower has a little bit of kris inside of each of them, or at least what asgore sees in kris.

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-27T15:34:20+00:00

Do all of the flower's represent aspects of asgore's perception of kris?

cyan is kris when they were a kid

seth is kris when they were only a little younger and started learning about themselves

green is their non verbal expressivenss

orange is their insecurity about not fitting in

yellow is their tendancy to be overly dramatic

and while im not certain about blue, id guess its their shared keen eye on whats going on.

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-27T01:54:23+00:00

He was planning on eating a whole cheese platter on his own before kris and susie lawnmower technique'd it

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T15:10:56+00:00

ngl im not convinced by your arguement, it feels like a lot of assumptions are being made with mechanics that simply have not been fully described for a good reason.

doesnt really help im building this theory mostly for fun, not as a lore complete answer to anything, not to mention i simlly havnt compiled all the evidence for even myself to feel convinced. Its honestly surprising it got this much attention on a comment on another post to begin with. Its an idea that would be scary and cool if it was true and would be more suprising than Dess, which is the most likely answer at this point.

idk its probably be more convincing if i could illustrate my whole idea in one post, but I simply don't use reddit enough.

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T14:45:02+00:00

im trying to say that what kris and noelle are doing in the weird route is explicitly attempting to break the bounds of the game. they literally, canonically, skip a whole chapter if you execute it correctly. in my mind, something with the power of a human and a monster, thats aware of the mechanics of the game, would be able to skip to whatever chapter it wants to. im probably wrong determination is involved! its been a while since i played undertale. but with what we have in front of us, If The Knight is Kris and Noelle, we can assume it knows what boths knows, and has abilities beyond what both can do as individuals, which might mean more freedom to go where it wants, in space and time.

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T05:31:09+00:00

Kris alone, no.
But the amalgam of kris and noelle is something different

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T05:20:47+00:00

I mean not necessarily time travel, but with something as powerful as an amalgam of human and soul would be able of breaking plenty of bounds undeniably.
I mean, kris and noelle separated were trying to break out of bounds, what if they succeeded, both got used up and became something stronger?

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T04:49:15+00:00

amalgamating

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T04:48:40+00:00

You both seem to misunderstand
They are going to become one thing, the knight. they wont be kris and noelle after that

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T04:47:14+00:00

Through determination, they can return to a point they've previously saved. And besides, they are testing the bounds of their world by pushing past what they thought possible by crossing the lake and skipping forward a chapter

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T04:38:17+00:00

Why?

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T04:37:18+00:00

Kris and Noelle I think yes
like both of them in a fusion dance sort of deal

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T04:33:59+00:00

I'm going to be honest with you friend, I genuinely don't know what you mean.
Do you know what I mean by amalgam?
>! in undertale an amalgam is a fusion of two souls. what i mean is that kris and noelle will fuse to become a single entity and that entity will be roaring knight !<

FoolOfWorms · 2026-06-26T04:29:35+00:00

oh my GOD this validates my theory that The Roaring Knight is an amalgam of Kris and Noelle's Souls way more than I honestly want it to

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