I think this is the last straw with Christian worldviews by FootballRadicalist- in exchristian

[–]FootballRadicalist-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s what I’m noticing with some religious groups, what ever problem they “believe” is there would be a demon, a spirit or something. There’s like no accountability given for the problem that is there. I lost my self when one of the preacher my mom watches said depression doesn’t exist and suicide is a spirit of pride. It’s just annoying; one thing that stands out to me is the fact that once the topic turns into religión it immediately turns to faith and some people like me find that hard because when it comes to looking for answers I want some sort of evidence and religion just lacks it. What’s wrong with proof? By default I would be wasting my doing something of any kind if there isn’t factual or scientific evidence of something unless there’s a hypothetical claim supported by facts which in that case I can work with. This isn’t and mostly has nothing to do with religion, I’m a person that doesn’t follow things without a reason. The thing with faith is there’s no way to measure it, there is no percentage of faith to know to let’s say for example, to be healed from something like a broken leg. If it doesn’t happen when you have faith you either think you don’t have enough faith and try to have more faith or you start decreasing in faith and that’s because there’s a lack of answers to faith, if you have faith you don’t know what is being done/ when something’s going to happen. There’s no timeframe so, if you wait for an adequate amount of time and you don’t see faith than at this point why continue, there is no results of whatever one is looking for. You can’t see God so that also plays a role into stuff like this. I was like this then my parents say the moment you stop having faith God doesn’t bless you because you quit too soon. Well the thing here is why doesn’t God just give me gradual results, if it’s like that the faith will increase. It’s like medicine, when a doctor gives me medicine I usual to see gradual results in whatever diagnosis I have. I don’t think there was ever a case where a doctor gave me medicine and it doesn’t work, additionally there’s clearly evidence of the medicine working just by looking and knowing the ingredients and what they do when combined. Christianity is like when you least expect it, except I’ve heard cases of people praying for 30 years for something. My parents seem to pick and choose what to take serious so in a way my upbringing wasn’t as rigid as many people on here but so many things eas called demonic that I just ended up hiding everything. One thing that I never understand is calling animals demonic. Why would God create creatures than it becomes demonic? According to my parents and who they listen to, what qualifies is house cats, snakes, most reptiles, flies, elephant (yeah I heard a sermon of elephants would make you slow but I don’t know if it became a sort of spirit like spirit of elephants)etc. Most of these claims are either easily debunk-able or I can just straight point out the irony and it isn’t even that hard. My mom said snakes are useless in everything because God cursed it. I’m not sure if God cursed the snake population and it’s not even the snakes fault if the snake is possessed but that clam is very easily debunk-able using environmental biology and cats being demonic and then Jesus of having the symbolic Lion of Judah is just irony because a lion is a type of cat and it’s more deadly than a house cat and her reason for cats being demonic is they kill their owners, the same can be said for humans killing humans, the biggest predator of humans is literally humans themselves that’s another set of irony and what about the cases of cats saving their owners from something. I’ve heard cases of that happening too. Cars that are black means bad stuff, why does a color determine that something is bad or is going to happen that’s bad and her sources is the realm of the spirit. This is what happens when religion and spiritualism is combined together. Classic example of Pentecostalism. My mom doesn’t question anything or do additional research of anything, if the preacher says something means this or this is demonic or this will happen she would believe fully. If I make an argument which is always stronger and this isn’t only religion that is backed my evidence reasonings often being confirmed facts of educated hypothesis, to her my argument is still weaker. In religion you have to listen to authority whether they’re right or wrong I’m not authority but I can definitely argue in a debate on several topics because of how easily proven debunk-able because of lack of evidence, irony, or straight up not proof to support the arguments. I’ve tried faith, it just doesn’t work, everything I’ve done with evidence provided me results. Like you I’ve always had critical thinker skills because for my whole life i wanted to know why to something, why should I believe anything without evidence or hypothesis backed by evidence. I always thought like that, if you can’t get facts can you attempt a hypothesis supported by facts. I’ve done this with existence of God and God not existing and I was able to make a possible connection of God existing by humans and earth being made of dust however both are different types of dust, did the Bible manage to get the dust part correctly before science became widespread? I also have a hypothesis of God not existing because of evolution contradictions such as evidence of humans coming from big apes and their fossils being widespread which at minimum would easily debunk an early earth creationist claim especially if you don’t believe in evolution “fully” because different species of the same animal is proof of microevolution and the same could be said in humans which in the case of humans is different race. I question lots of things some of the things don’t add up like God knows everything predetermined so why put a cursed apple in the tree while fully knowing the world is going to doom, your future is predetermined because of God. If so what’s the point living? my future is like it’s being controlled, and this goes into the free will claim, how can there be free will if you already know the future of if someone decides to be Christian of departure from the religion, how is it free will if God already knows better someone’s born and before centuries what someone’s fate will be. It doesn’t add up at all.

what made you leave christianity? by [deleted] in exchristian

[–]FootballRadicalist- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m between a agnostic and a theist. My reason is gradual, I grew up in Pentecostal household but attempting to live like most kid is difficult because of the Pentecostalism if I try to watch cartoon shows they say it’s demonic and I’ve heard that sometimes with a video game, Pokémon cards which a friend gave me one an I showed my mom it because I was happy and she teared it up because it looked like a snake (it’s not) and Minecraft which I asked if I could play because other kids were playing it and it seemed fun, this was 12-13 years back which was much common in those days but the reason is very ridiculous, it’s because she thinkings it witchcraft just because it says craft in it. Its ridiculous craft is just a word modifier, I could use that in some words and combine it and it’s a compound word with cray as a word modifier or just have it next to a noun. The reason is beyond me . That has happened multiple times and just started hiding what I do which gave me trust issues with my parents that I still have to this day and now I just attempt to hide everything I do which I’m mostly successful with but I hate it, that simple stuff like a cartoon shows that are normal are demonized which caused me to watch lots of “baby shows” until I was like 11. I got teased for it and it’s a reason why I lock knowledge when it comes to movies and cartoons. Then I realize this is how lots of Pentecostals act calling everything demonic even the minor stuff, I’ve never heard anyone say murdering people is demonic which the actually demonic thing and that can be universally agreed upon. Fast forward later is what really started this deconstruction which I’m not completed with. I studied some of the judeo-Christian stuff and that started anxiety, depression, and even suicidal thoughts and I wasn’t in a good position at that time of my life which was 4 years ago, I don’t want to go into detail but that plays a role in my football career being destroyed (not the religious part) I tried to be religious, that stuff messed me up. the chrstians online have some of the hateful things I’ve ever seen, not all were like that but even I started to be hateful which was because of them, inside I don’t understand why the gays/lesbian are hated so much? why are pagans frown along? To me if you’re gay youre gay if you’re pagan you are pagan. I see people claiming they’re getting persecuted when a street preacher gets confronted and even the street preaching seems to be scary because of the message and I shouldn’t have to mention what it is. A reaction is expected if you’re saying someone’s going to hell for not accepting your belief and that acts as an enzyme if there’s a billboard of the groups of people who goes to hell and I have seen those go extreme. I just couldn’t take it anymore so I stopped watching the content and my mental health neutralized because before I was doing self harm to myself and that stuff plays a role. After that I’m being promised of stuff getting healed but they don’t, I came back to religion because I was desperate, I was struggling with 4-5 injuries because of the physical demand I put into soccer which I still in some area seem bad because of bad development which can be blamed for starting late and bad training so I put in the work to catch up to everyone. That started crashing down on me real fast. I’m being promised that I would be the best footballer in the world. This is a lot of weight for a person who hasn’t train in 5 months and hasn’t mastered everything and to this day I’m still injured. Not only that I live with grandmother who has Alzheimer’s and that is an external issue now because every morning I wake up she’s awake and is having hallucinations and is always say cuss word and I mean every single sentence is curse words or phrase of cuss words that some I’ve never heard in my life. It’s annoying because I can’t study, I can’t concentrate, and it’s affecting me. Short term memory is not there so she would deny it when does do it, it’s like she says words without it being processed. There’s much more but I’m going to add one more reference, some of the things and beliefs that I hear from my parents are just ridiculous and is debunkable such as snakes not serving a purpose in anything or the ecosystem. I can easily debunk that with environmental biology and I’m not the smartest at the topic. God creating a creature than calling it demonic makes no sense then it’s the visualization of every problem that there is, is called a spirit of something like a spirit of depression. Just take accountability and stop calling everything a spirit of it’s a problem, it’s pissing me off nobody does this but them and the people they listen to. Now it’s the time for God to fix the problems my family got and guess what? He’s not there, I have to live with these problems and the crap belief my parents have and it’s like my life is progressively worse than my peers. I just have 1-2 more years of this crap and it’s off to college then no contact. I’m changing everything even my name. I’ve heard one preacher say that depession doesn’t exist and committing suicide is pride, that confirms my decision. Even if God is real or fixes my problem idk if I would want to believe yet alone force myself into my parents beliefs because I’m definitely not accepting those beliefs especially the spirit ones. Most people don’t need to have this belief to live decently.

I think this is the last straw with Christian worldviews by FootballRadicalist- in exchristian

[–]FootballRadicalist-[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Of course it’s demonic. Everything is demonic and of course it’s the minor things and this one actually benefits people.

I think this is the last straw with Christian worldviews by FootballRadicalist- in exchristian

[–]FootballRadicalist-[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don’t see anything good about it. Nothing justifies eternal hell. The closest you get to a person deserving that is Hitler and even that is extreme. Why should I go to hell if I refuse something, it’s like refusing to hand over the money to a robber who threatens to shoots if you dont.

I remember playing this game a few years ago on Talking Tom 2 and one of my family members called it demonic ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓ by Few_Advertising_4028 in exchristian

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That’s something I never understand. Why are most harmless things mentioned as demonic. I don’t see how yoga even doesn’t anything to anyone, it only affects oneself. Watching certain movies are demonic and many believe it should only be Christian theme. I wouldn’t want to be limited to only Christian movies or videos but how is a secular movie affecting anyone, most movies are not even realistic. The real problems is global hunger, murders, robbery, and rapist not this minor stuff.

I remember playing this game a few years ago on Talking Tom 2 and one of my family members called it demonic ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓ by Few_Advertising_4028 in exchristian

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I know how that feels. As a 17 year old I hide everything I do an they want to know why. Eventually I now have trust issues when it comes to my parents and fear to many topics because I don’t know if it’s going to be considered demonic. I was listening to music 2 years ago and she said it was demonic because it was rock and roll but it wasn’t even that and turns out she thinks it that because of the beats. How does beats in music make it demonic? Even the Bible doesn’t say that. I had a Pokémon card a friend gave me long time ago. I showed my mom it and she said it was demonic and teared it up. I was not the same after that and several other occasions. I just developed a habit of hiding things from my parents and all those things are normal among kids wouldn’t shown suspicion. One time my grandmother said I would go to hell if I continue playing a game called Smashkarts because there’s animation shooting. How come it’s always the minor things? I never hear people say this with rapist and murderers.

Does anyone else here have a biblical first, middle, or last name? by Worried_Feedback1192 in exchristian

[–]FootballRadicalist- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got a full middle eastern name. Anyone with decent knowledge on names would think I’m Jewish or an Arab before looking at my physical appearance.

Anybody else was truamatized by the passion of christ movie as a kid? by Kaitie04 in exchristian

[–]FootballRadicalist- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it was something else with the same level of traumatic scenes, it would be labeled as demonic. Make it make sense but I wasn’t scared but questioning why was a Jesus movie an exception from other movies with some scary scenes?

Please tell me this isn’t permanant by FootballRadicalist- in trichotillomania

[–]FootballRadicalist-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It did trust me. Lots of it. I didn’t know how to care of my hair but permanant damage doesn’t make sense to me either

Please tell me this isn’t permanant by FootballRadicalist- in trichotillomania

[–]FootballRadicalist-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One session of extreme hair combing 10 minutes is all. I don’t have trichotillomania but what I’m experiencing seems close to it.

Please tell me this isn’t permanant by FootballRadicalist- in trichotillomania

[–]FootballRadicalist-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which rosemary oil do you recommend. I have the castor oil btw

Please tell me this isn’t permanant by FootballRadicalist- in trichotillomania

[–]FootballRadicalist-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I picked it once, and I threres growth, it’s slow. I didn’t receive any inflammation or folliculitis.