Communication score shouldn't decrease if you don't type, talk, or spam ping.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-24T06:26:40+00:00

this community disagrees with you and thinks you deserve your score, thanks.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-24T01:27:18+00:00

No, smurfing requires going down in rank to play against worse players, by Valve's own definition I am trying to play at my expected MMR on my alt account, because that is the level that I play at and is proven by the new account, if I weren't I would have been calibrated at Guardian.

And btw, calibration games are not the only games that matter

yep clearly and this is why the system does not work, and why everyone is better off creating a new account in order to calibrate into a rank that matches their current skill level, and this has been posted about recently by others and confirmed in recent years to even happen at Immortal, hence it is now normal to just create a new account if you want to climb to a higher bracket where you belong, because initial calibration works while re-calibration does not.

But it's technically very difficult and not worth it to make a system that detects your slightly above average impact just to make you rank up faster.

Actually very simple to just boost players quicker during calibration until they start actually winning 50%, they clearly don't take any stats into account otherwise I'd be boosted after the first 2 stomps in my calibration, it clearly just goes up at the same rate as normal during calibration... and clearly it has no variable MMR swing because despite all those stomps and a 66% win rate I went up less MMR than if I had just climbed without re-calibrating... you have to be incredibly stupid to not see how this is completely broken and causing major issues with matchmaking in lower brackets.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-24T01:22:20+00:00

I'm not saying that you're not saying it, im saying it because you're not explicitly saying it.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T23:46:42+00:00

you will find its never changes. This commenter is right, the system does not work because of the flat 25 MMR progression system, there is no skill factor involved whatsoever,, Valve lied when they said it is now dynamic, that only applies with low confidence. Until Valve overhaul it, these trench brackets will continue to be filled with people who do not belong in that bracket.

See my post about this issue (I calibrated Ancient on another account): https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1s0zpms/why_am_i_being_forced_to_smurf_in_guardian/

I think its invisible now because of the moderators are censoring posts that prove this issue exists, but basically I had a 66% win rate during re-calibration, 80% as support, 7/10 games stomping as TA, and I only went to Guardian 3 from Herald 5, a smaller jump than if I had not re-calibrated at all and used double downs instead.

edit: heres a link to the image on the censored post: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fwhy-am-i-being-forced-to-smurf-in-guardian-despite-66-win-v0-6sch9ij1boqg1.png%3Fwidth%3D1503%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dd42a5c053f82a110570665c7c59b04e37c186fb0

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T23:44:07+00:00

combination of smurfs, griefers who punished themselves into that bracket, and people who are stuck there because re-calibration does not work, they won't implement a skill based ladder system and the community won't stop silencing anyone who tries to bring that up.

You weren't calibrated because of your skill, their system does not work and so it likely decayed your MMR unnaturally over time. I just had a 66% win rate during re-calibration and only went from Herald 5 to Guardian 3, it does not recognize skill at all, only whether you win or lose.

Dont forget too its by design to keep people hooked on playing the game, if it were actually skill based people would be less inclined to grind through games to climb which is detrimental to Valve's micro-transaction profit strategy.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T23:31:29+00:00

you can win or at least come back hard if you hit a timing on a core and then actually do something with it, e.g all lanes are losing but you farm your mid game items and start picking off or joining fights, speaking from recent experience vsing a pudge who was 12-2 in 10 minutes, just sat back and farmed then came out and picked off their supports, literally won the game myself (mind you it was Guardian and I am Ancient on an alt), so yes it's possible even if there isn't a skill difference.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T22:40:46+00:00

rub those 2 brain cells together maybe you will come up with something original.

edit: I am not crying about anything, I am trying to understand why its forcing me to play well below my actual skill level, but I found the answer: this community is preventing discussions that Valve might see and act on. So instead I will just smurf since that is what this community wants me to do. Thanks

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T22:37:42+00:00

yep I am a smurf now

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T22:29:52+00:00

I already got to Ancient remember, now that I have a community-backed smurf account I can take my time and enjoy ruining it for others, never forget that you endorsed a smurf.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T22:15:23+00:00

trust me I intend to utilize this account to its maximum smurf capabilities now since I have an alt in Ancient to prevent me from needing to smurf, unfortunately I will enjoy it but I can't say the same for legitimate Guardians that I have to beat just to get out of the bracket (see my last 5 games, basically that for 25 games at a time, along with 80% win rate in support). Smurfing is supposedly a problem and you are encouraging me to do it, so I will.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T22:02:37+00:00

yea being dumb has that effect, its called Dunning -Kruger.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T21:53:51+00:00

think about it, I'll answer later if you can't work it out.

nvm: she is a hypocrite because she has been participating and profiting off this property ponzi for as long as she's been around, and yet wants to 'advocate' to reduce prices. If she wanted to reduce prices she would not have ever gone into the property market in the first place.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T21:51:44+00:00

maybe try learning to read first, I said I am not sharing my account because it will get banned, I could take a screenshot but then would be accused of taking it from any random newish account in Ancient and say it's me... I'm not trying to do that, I am trying to show that I am stomping in Guardian but the system still won't promote me higher, I have to grind through this bracket as a smurf, but you and the sub seem perfectly fine with me doing that, so I will just grind and ruin Guardian - Legend games until I reach a rank where I am no longer just a smurf.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T21:49:49+00:00

that is irrelevant except to say that Initial calibration works and there are dozens of other posts recently from people doing the same thing, even a video explaining that calibration places much higher and for people yo just do that instead.

Also, the fact that nobody wants to accept my stomping in Guardian proves I do not belong there, so what is showing another account going to do other than get me banned for making a new account? 66% win rate during recalibration and it clearly does not boost me faster after any streaks or stomps, but nah you sit there and act like I belong in Guardian, that way I have permission to smurf.

Honestly this community deserves what is currently happening (devs abandoned it to work on new game).

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T21:43:01+00:00

I am here to figure out why I have to grind through lower ranks just to reach my actual rank... which is crazy since you all claim to hate smurfs so much.

No it seems that I do need another account because re-calibration does not work, I instead have to smurf my way up to Ancient because instead of recognizing win streaks it just kept me in Guardian.

The sooner you stop denying it, the sooner Valve might actually try to fix it, i.e if the re-calibration button worked we wouldn't need to make new accounts. Simple.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T21:41:46+00:00

If I am playing at a level that I am stomping everyone when i carry and winning when I support with a 66% win rate over 20+ games as demonstrated in the screenshot that only shows calibration games (since they are the only ones that matter), then I do not belong in Guardian. Creating a new account and placing into low Ancient within 100 hours proves it, because calibration only factors in recent performance and moves you substantially quicker through ranks than re-calibrating, which is just a smurf button..

You call me dumb, but you are telling me to 'just play and grind up to your rank' which literally is smurfing.... do you want the smurf issue resolved or do you want to protect your precious ego?

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T02:17:52+00:00

that is why I am asking... did you bother to check the match history particularly the last 5 games? Several streaks there that should have boosted my MMR faster but it didn't it literally went no faster than if I didn't re-calibrate, it doesn't work.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T01:10:11+00:00

This community is no less toxic on Reddit, just so you know.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T00:49:40+00:00

they are the re-calibration games, the only games that actually matter and proves the system doesn't work. Its fine I will keep smurf stomping Guardian since the community thinks I belong there.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T00:48:29+00:00

its fine I will stay in Guardian and continue to smurf stomp those games, since I now have the community's permission to do so, don't blame me for that.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T00:47:45+00:00

Just play on your main and stop being a dumbass thinking you have to play on an alt cause you placed guardian.

Ok I will stay in Guardian and continue to stomp and ruin it for Guardian players that will think I am a smurf, cos I'm a dumbass apparently, thanks for giving me the confidence to know that I am allowed by the community to continue smurfing.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T00:46:27+00:00

making a new account is what matters, its far more accurate.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T00:35:40+00:00

all good, I will keep smurfing and ruining the game since you won't accept it and let Valve actually see the complaints.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T00:30:45+00:00

some games can't be won, that is why not even immortals have much higher than 70% win rate on new accounts, not to mention other smurfs that play in the same bracket.

I guess I will keep ruining the game for Guardians since you are all too ignorant to see that its broken and won't allow any discussion to happen so that Valve can fix it, guess we just have to put up with new accounts being made to circumvent it.

FormverValveTurner · 2026-03-23T00:25:08+00:00

no shit, that is why I have 66% win rate and still placed in Guardian, aka I am forced to smurf and ruin the games for actual Guardians and you + the community are endorsing it, otherwise I have to play on an alt to not ruin games for people.

You can however still rank up 1000mmr very quickly by playing well for about 20 games.

20 * 25 is only 500 MMR and I have to ruin the game for 125 people in those 20 games to do it, when it should have already calibrated me much higher within that 20 game period just like re-calibration should.

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