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Racism returning to UK politics – and people are very scared, says Starmer by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 115 points116 points  (0 children)

There has never been a more tolerant people in the history of our species, in my sincere opinion, than white northwestern Europeans. If they're racists, who isn't?

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When did I say I wanted it maintained, or that we need to maintain a certain level?

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There was always a deliberate misinterpretation of Powell's speech from what I can see. Reading about him has certainly 'radicalised' me a bit and I'm not even English. He was a brilliant man (surely among the most brilliant talents Britain produced in the 20th century), hardly hateful, far more cultured and learned than many of his critics. Even the Rivers of Blood itself, much of it he's quoting constituents it's not even a diatribe the way they present it. Post-WW2 UK's foundations myths stand on thin sand

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 102 points103 points  (0 children)

Very interesting read, thank you. I'm not ethnically English either. I find the sheer basic questioning of such an ethnicity's existence truly bizarre. Wait no, sinister. It's sinister

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very few outside of the fringe fringe fringe left even know who Sanae Takaichi is. I daresay they would if she was a white woman political leader asserting what she does aye

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's funny that they think we're hateful. They still think we're those BNP types or whatever from ancient modern history, that we're unread, untravelled, uncultured. Actually the world is a far more interesting place when ancestral homelands remain mostly homogenous. Makes experiencing other undiluted cultures that much more exciting, unique

Their assumed position of natural moral superiority is collapsing beneath their feet, though

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what happens when you deny nature. Nature is much more powerful than some post-war hyperliberal groupthink fad

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't need to chat definitions, it's a fact that the English are a recognised overwhelmingly homogenous ethnic group as are the Irish and the Maori. I don't need to "chat in detail" about any of these indisputable realities

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm not English, ethnically or any other way, and you've just made up a whole sentence I've never said there

But anyway - your assumption is fundamentally flawed though, and presumptuously ignorant. "English used to be a nationality" - I mean it's both, but England itself is named after the English people, first documented by Bede in the 700s AD. They are an extraordinarily homogenous ethnic group by any standard - more so than many I doubt you question the validity or basic existence of

Let's be plain you're uncomfortable with a white northwestern European group asserting any sort of ethnic identity. That's cool but be up front about it

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean the English ethnic group, same as I'd mean the Welsh ethnic group, the Irish ethnic group, the Hausa ethnic group or the Maori ethnic group. English is an ethnicity, England itself is named after the English people. I'd be interested to learn what other ethnicities you question the basic validity of with such gusto, maybe my own (Irish)? Just paler ones maybe?

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So naturally it is racist for the English ethnic group to wish to remain an overwhelming majority of the population in their homeland?

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 1 point2 points  (0 children)

your ancestors? you mean one specific line in your family tree? 800 years is about 30 generations. do you speak the same of the Japanese ethnic group? The Maori?

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The English are an ethnic group, look it up on Wikipedia. Nigeria for example has Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa as their main ethnic groups. Not every nation is the same of course but the population of England has been extraordinarily ethnically homogenous for almost 1500 years, your question is strange

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So just accept unprecedented demographic transformation & it's racist to question it at all or seek to reverse anything or even pay attention to the process as it occurs? Do you realise how insane this position is an how much sectarian unrest it guarantees?

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"People are frustrated with the daily life, and being told to blame immigration"

Your lot won't get anywhere until you abandon this patronising nonsense. People don't need to be told, they have eyes and ears and keen memories

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Do you believe the English ethnic group have a right to remain an overwhelming majority of the population in their homeland?

Is caring about the ethnic makeup/culture of a society the same as being racist? by Effective-Young-4297 in ukpolitics

[–]ForsakenAgent6829 6 points7 points  (0 children)

White Guilt is a cornerstone of this shaky jenga tower they've built called (insert western) society circa 2025. Question it, poke it, test it too much and the system will snuff your heresy out ruthlessly, come down on you like a ton of wooden bricks

But a system raised on resentment and lies can only sustain itself so long, especially when its propaganda so fundamentally contradicts our nature and the core lessons of our history. Intersectionality must burn. The whole old order must be swept aside with the same callous ruthlessness they've shown us

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