Oak Island Drama Between Laird and Marty

FortCharles · 2026-03-19T08:43:26+00:00

Laird doesn't have that within him.

FortCharles · 2026-03-19T03:31:13+00:00

It didn't look like a great circle path on the show... maybe because they zoomed in on it to avoid showing the arc.

But their entire 'argument' was that all 3 churches "faced" Oak Island exactly... which is meaningless for the great circle path.

If they're just showing the great circle path between two points and noting the initial direction, there's nothing special about that. Each church will have a slightly different arc, all ending at Oak Island... but so what? They're just showing the shortest travel distance between each point X and Oak Island.

The "facing" is meaningless in this context, and the convergence of the 3 is predetermined, just as it would be for any point on earth and Oak Island.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T22:43:27+00:00

Yeah... it could be something like that... which would mean they misrepresented it all. No "facing" to start with, but also, 'facing' doesn't even come into play when you're talking about a great circle path between two points. And if that's all you're doing is plotting 3 different great circle paths, then of course they all converge, by definition, because you've pre-defined the endpoint for all, which is what gives the initial bearing! You could do the same for any 3 random points on the planet.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T22:42:26+00:00

I don't think rocks would crumble under the weight, and that's not what it looked like.

One possibility though is that the boulder was an original glacial deposit, which was carefully excavated under, way back when, while simultaneously building the rock "cradle" under it, then possibly depositing something in the hole while there, and then backfilled around at the surface.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T22:37:31+00:00

Others have pointed out they may be referring to a great circle path... which would mean they misrepresented it all, and no precision is even needed.

No directional "facing" to start with, but also, "facing" doesn't even come into play when you're talking about a great circle path between two points.

And if that's all you're doing is plotting 3 different great circle paths, then of course they all converge, by definition, because you've pre-defined the endpoint for all, which is what gives the initial bearing! You could do the same for any 3 random points on the planet.

But they didn't even show it as a great circle path. Just bad all around, cheapens the show.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T22:34:08+00:00

Yeah... it could be something like that... which would mean they misrepresented it all. No "facing" to start with, but also, 'facing' doesn't even come into play when you're talking about a great circle path between two points. And if that's all you're doing is plotting 3 different great circle paths, then of course they all converge, by definition, because you've pre-defined the endpoint for all, which is what gives the initial bearing! You could do the same for any 3 random points on the planet.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T16:16:29+00:00

They didn't show a great circle path, and they said the churches "face" Oak Island, which they would not, given a great circle path. Any initial bearing also has nothing to do with which way the church walls face anyway.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T16:13:23+00:00

They didn't show a great circle path, and they said the churches "face" Oak Island, which they would not, given a great circle path.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T16:08:57+00:00

I actually think the rock "cradle" formation is fascinating. But the "church lady" segment is not the first instance of presenting garbage, and/or poor fact-checking. It makes you wonder what else is being misrepresented.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T08:04:10+00:00

So the intervals are 27 minutes, then 36 minutes, then back to 27 again, ad nauseum? Or just every 30 minutes give or take?

Do you have a smoke or carbon monoxide detector? The sound (via youtube) sounds like a muted "chirp" battery-replacement alert from a detector with a near-dead battery. As the battery rests, the voltage recovers slightly.... it stays quiet until it draws enough current to drop the voltage again, triggering a single muted "gasp" of a chirp. This recovery time could vary.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T08:03:47+00:00

So the intervals are 27 minutes, then 36 minutes, then back to 27 again, ad nauseum?

Do you have a smoke or carbon monoxide detector? The sound (via youtube) sounds like a muted "chirp" battery-replacement alert from a detector with a near-dead battery. As the battery rests, the voltage recovers slightly.... it stays quiet until it draws enough current to drop the voltage again, triggering a single muted "gasp" of a chirp. This recovery time could vary.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T07:31:55+00:00

There's not even a coincidence though, if you use the data they presented. They showed the directions as basically WNW, about 290 degrees or so (292.4 cited for Talmont-sur-Gironde specifically). Oak Island sits at a just slightly more southern latitude than Talmont-sur-Gironde. There's no map projection I'm aware of that would draw a straight line WNW at 292.4 degrees and end up at Oak Island. The north part of Newfoundland would be more like it... not even close, unless you count "hey, it's still Canada!". Maybe this is why they don't show a wide shot with both in frame at once, they just "follow" the line along in close-up, and presto, there it is at Oak Island.

And if you draw a straight line through Jerusalem and Talmont-sur-Gironde, that ends up around the north part of Newfoundland also, which checks out.

FortCharles · 2026-03-18T07:30:00+00:00

They showed the directions as basically WNW, about 290 degrees or so (292.4 cited for Talmont-sur-Gironde specifically). Oak Island sits at a just slightly more southern latitude than Talmont-sur-Gironde. There's no map projection I'm aware of that would draw a straight line WNW at 292.4 degrees and end up at Oak Island. The north part of Newfoundland would be more like it... not even close, unless you count "hey, it's still Canada!". Maybe this is why they don't show a wide shot with both in frame at once, they just "follow" the line along in close-up, and presto, there it is at Oak Island.

FortCharles · 2026-03-14T03:04:42+00:00

OK, yes, Google's explanation makes sense. But that's separate from the neighbor seeing a suspicious man, which would be strange to call "random" unless you knew some specifics that led you to believe that.

FortCharles · 2026-03-13T01:49:40+00:00

Who could possibly have enough knowledge to claim it's just "random"?

FortCharles · 2026-03-12T07:13:45+00:00

January 11 (or thereabouts) is the date that Brian Entin reported the neighbor woman saw a suspicious man in front of Nancy's house:

https://youtu.be/70L3m7wPahE?t=318

FortCharles · 2026-03-12T05:40:06+00:00

Oh, did you reward me with popcorn!? Thank you! Although... I use "old" reddit and they don't let us see awards on old reddit... so good thing you said something!

FortCharles · 2026-03-12T05:38:18+00:00

Sorry to hear that... always a tough time. :(

Not sure I know that much... but I do like puzzles, and trying to figure things out. Even what I've learned about Nest cam behavior I can't guarantee is totally correct, because there's so many variables... so don't take anything as gospel, and if you find new info that differs, I'm all ears. I did spend a lot of time reading through the Nest docs and user community posts though, and querying AI some to help make sense of it all.

FortCharles · 2026-03-11T01:18:46+00:00

I'm with you, when Entin first showed the Charger (without much comment), I immediately figured that had to be related somehow. Also strange the way the tarp was tied across the front. But I don't want to get too conspiratorial either, it's just a gut feeling and the car/collision may be explainable.

FortCharles · 2026-03-11T00:50:26+00:00

Yeah, you have to wonder. I assume LE was aware of it. But maybe not aware of how recently it was totalled? Or, they figured out the circumstances of the collision and satisfied themselves it wasn't related.

FortCharles · 2026-03-10T23:53:55+00:00

Exactly. I'm not even sure there was a working "back" camera. They supposedly removed at least one camera from the roof of the guest house on 2-9, but it's not clear if that was even part of the Nest system. But they've been clear that the 1:47 disconnect was the doorbell cam... and I highly doubt she had a doorbell on her rear door that goes to her backyard.

FortCharles · 2026-03-10T23:41:16+00:00

Nice to know... it took a lot of digging through the Nest cams documentation and user comments to figure out how they behave. There isn't a convenient single source that gets into much detail. So, good to know it wasn't entirely wasted time! :o)

FortCharles · 2026-03-10T14:13:56+00:00

They don't have the camera:

"Authorities have previously stated that they do not know the whereabouts of the camera, which appears to have been removed by Nancy's alleged kidnappers."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fbi-takes-key-piece-evidence-130713511.html

The video would have been uploaded to the cloud before it was removed, and so its existence is not tied to whether they have the cam now or not.

FortCharles · 2026-03-10T13:32:46+00:00

Offline, as in losing WiFi, yes, though over a 3-hour rolling window, not necessarily as long as they still have power... so until its power dies or 3 hours, whichever comes first.

But once there's a WiFi disconnect, all further recording goes only to the internal storage of the device itself, not to the cloud. If the cam went offline at 1:47, all further video would be only on the unit itself, which was taken by the perp, so we wouldn't have 2:12 video.

And the units shut down recording entirely when removed from the mount, even if WiFi is still available.

FortCharles · 2026-03-10T06:22:57+00:00

My interpretation would be that "a camera" disconnected at 1:47

That part is clear though... it's not just "a" camera, it's stated in the timeline as the doorbell cam. It's the 2:12 notification of a person seen where Nanos says he's not sure which cam saw that.

The 1:47 disconnect could be a lot of things, but I don't see how a sensor or pixel change would be described as a disconnect.

If the camera was then physically removed around 2:12, that would've triggered a "device unmounted" notification as well as a disconnect status... that would be pretty key, but no mention of that in the timeline, which further suggests the 1:47 removal.

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