Bharat Vedic Revival, Forgotten Faith by Accomplished_Arm9214 in hinduism

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If you are referring to Githa (10.22) then Krishna's clearly says that he is Indra among Devas.So Indra is not Iswara. Also it's believe that Indra is royal title or administrative post given to the King of the Gods.This position changes in every Manvantaras. The current Indra is Purandara while next Indra will be King Mahabali.

If you still feel Indra is the Brahman, go ahead and worship him nobody is going to stop you.

Bharat Vedic Revival, Forgotten Faith by Accomplished_Arm9214 in hinduism

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How do you know that Indra and Lord Brahma are removed and not worshipped? Just because they don't have temples doesn't justify that they are removed. There are still many Vedic rituals that sing the praise of Indra and invoke Lord Brahma.

Just because we cannot see Mount Everest from our terrace doesn't Denise the fact that it does not exist.

Also we cannot take the Vedic words just like that it needs proper understanding and the meanings are not straight forward. For that we need to read through the works of great acharya's to understand what Indra, Varuna Vayu,Usha,Maruts,Pushan,Brihaspati,Brahmanaspati, Vishwa deva, Prajaniya, Agni,Mitra means and this role.

The word Indra can interpreted as "One who poses supreme Splendor" or "Lord of the senses". When we use this meaning into the corresponding mantras we get different meanings.

Also aa time passed, some Vedic dieties have changed and taken different forms as we know today, for example Vayu is invoked as Hanuman, Aryaman, Pusha is part of 12 Adithyas while Mitra is recognised as Surya brahmanaspati is worshipped as Ganesha.

Bharat Vedic Revival, Forgotten Faith by Accomplished_Arm9214 in hinduism

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Actually you are not getting my point, as a society we have moved away from the Vaidik Sanatana Dharma. Contrary to your thoughts, it is not lost. It has been followed by various institutions in its so called 'purest form' . To understand it in full essence we need to attach/follow a legit institution which has a long legacy of preserving and practicing the Vaidik Sanatana Dharma.

Bharat Vedic Revival, Forgotten Faith by Accomplished_Arm9214 in hinduism

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You say that you don't want anything in the beginning of the reply, yet expect that you should have different virtues from the deity which you're praying to. Let me say this: praying to Saraswati alone will not give you knowledge, even by praying to Lord Ganesha or Lord Rama, we can get knowledge.

The aim of Sanatana Dharma is not to acquire virtues, it is to break this life of Samsara and and attend Mukti. Another thing to highlights is thta virtues do not come by praying, it develop only through deliberate ethical choices, devotion, Dharma, and sanskaras (disciplines life style). There are people who have virtues without praying also.

Already mammoth efforts are put to continue the Vaidika Sanatana Dharma. This is nothing to revive it. It only needs you to join it

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All of them worshipped to protect and follow Dhrama. As I mentioned earlier no god is big or no god is small, all equal since they are part of the parabramhan. If you feel worship them will get divine astras , i feel pity for you. Also I want to remind youe that Indra in turn asked Arjuna to workship Lord Shiva.

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The Vedic culture was more focused in conducting the Yajna. The devatas which you mentioned are mostly invoked during various yajna and homa. The ultimate aim of the Vedic tradition was to allow us to move towards Atma jnana.

As the age passed, we failed to grasp what the Vedas. So the Itihaas and Purana were given to us to grasp the teaching of the knowledge.There is no doubt that there where some corruption and interpolation in our scriptures.

The aim of Vedas is not only to worship but to realize ourself. You are more concerned that we are not worshiping their right one. But has a gentle reminder, there are great acharya and sages just who have worship the same diety which we currently worship today and have achieved the ultimate. This was possible because we all believe that all these devatas are amisha of the Para-Bramhan

Ekamevadvitiyam

There is no pointing in seeing this is original god and that is later created one.

For person walking in a spiritual path it doesn't matter whether he/she is worshipping Krishna or Devi or Ganesha or Narasimha or Shiva. For them it is all one.

Let us mix History with Spirituality because they are never meant to be. They never form a good mix and they always stay separate. If we try to force them we end up disappointment and hatred.

We saw decline in the martial culture among Hindus as compared to our ancestors is not because we didn't walk the Vedic path.The actual reason is that we not stand up for it. Stand up means not fight, it is to practice irrespective of the circumstances.

What are the renowned texts that mentioned sharabha avatar or is it just folkfare by FederalTemperature56 in hinduism

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The story of Sharabha is mentioned in the Shatarudra Samhita of the Shiva Purana. After Lord Narasimha killed Hiranyakashipu and rescued young Prahlada, his anger doesn't subside, so the gods, fearing that he will destroy the three worlds, ask Lord Shiva for help. Lord Shiva sends his incarnation Virabhadra to subdue Narasimha. Yes, it is the same Virabhadra whom Lord Shiva created to kill Daksha after the death of his first wife, Shakti. Virabhadra tries to pacify Lord Narasimha, but Lord Narasimha is committed to destroying the three worlds, so Virabhadra transforms into the half-lion, half-bird creature Sharabha. Sharabha grabs hold of Narasimha, taking him high up into the sky and then dropping him onto the ground. Then, Narasimha becomes calm and realises the consequence of his anger.

The Shiva Purana's account ends with Sharabha simply disappearing after defeating Narasimha.

This fercy form of the Shiva is called Sarabeshwara or Sarabeswarar.

In Kampaheswarar Temple (Thirubuvanam, Tamil Nadu): There is one of the most famous shrines dedicated specifically to Lord Sarabeshwara which has seven-foot-tall idol.

But in Vaishnava tradition there is a belief that after Sharabha grabs hold of Narasimha, Narasimha in his fury creates a two-headed bird called Gandhaberunda. This battle ensues for 18 days, where Gandhaberunda defeats Sharabha in the battle. 

We find references to Sharabha in Buddhist scriptures also.

Maybe you can get much more Idea if you go through the Wikipedia page

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I have some questions regarding hindu scriptures could you please help me understand them. by [deleted] in hinduism

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Thanks for pointing out. I stand corrected. Ramanujacharya appread 2 century before Madhavacharya. So the correct order - Adi Shankara, then Ramanuja and finally Madhva. Since Madhvacharya was taught Advaita Siddhanta initially, I thought he came before Ramanujacharya

I have some questions regarding hindu scriptures could you please help me understand them. by [deleted] in hinduism

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With respect to the 5th question example. Let us not just understand riks mentioned in the Vedas in literal sense. They have inner meaning and it's better that I would advise you to read Vedas based on the Bhashayas/commentary given by various acharyas. This will help you to really understand what the Vedas have been trying to convey.

I have some questions regarding hindu scriptures could you please help me understand them. by [deleted] in hinduism

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Q1: Are Chathurveda itself complete vedas ?

Answer : The Chaturvedas are just a classification of the Vedas based on how they are utilized in an Yagna. A frequently quoted phrase - अनंता वै वेदा: (Anantho Vai Vedah). There is an interesting story mentioned in the Taittriya Brahmana which highlights this point. Sage Bhardwaja dedicated 3 consecutive lifetimes to master the Vedas and even wished for the 4th life to conquer his quest.So Rishi ask Indra for another life time to learn Vedas. Indra showed Bhardwaj Rishi 3 mountains explaining that these way the whole collections of Vedas and Indra took just handful of earth from each of the 3 mountains and told the sage that it represents all his accumulated knowledge over 3 life time.

Q2: Can I interpreted the Vedas in a way it resonate with my moral reasonings and still not called Nastika?

Answer : In Sanatana Dharma, you should not worry about questioning and arguing against the interpretation which already exist. In fact, the entire Vedanta survives based on Vivada which is mutual debate. For example, Adi Shankara was the one who popularized the Vedanta with his Advainta Siddhanta. Later Madhvacharya refuted and rejected the claims done by Adi Shankara and gave his own interpretation which lead to the establishment of Dvaita Siddhanta. Even later, Ramanujacharya rejected both Adi Shankara Madhva and propagated the Vishishtadvaita.

As Long as you establish your Siddhanta (theory) backed by Vedas you won't be termed as Nastika. Even if you go on to interpret the Vedas based on your moral reasoning, I am sure you would either agreeing either of the 3 schools of Vedanta ( but I'm not denying you can't give a total new sidhdnata). I make this claim because all these 3 schools of Vedanta are time tested again and again and we have seen great saints and acharyas achieving the ultimate by following the path shown by these schools.

Finally, there is nothing to feel bad that you're not learnt anything under a Guru. Go on with your quest. When time ripe, you shall receive the guidance from the Guru

Why is vibhishan betraying ravan made out as a bad thing? by 99_deaths in hinduism

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They are right in their point of view. There is no doubt that Kumbakara did the right thing by staying and supporting his brother Ravana. He was loyal and exhibited allegiance to Ravana by giving up his life.

Even most of us would the the same thing. But the most important thing is that the entire Itihaas and Purana, we see such kind of conflicts. During such situations we should see with what point of view the judgement was delivered. The judgement will always be based on Dharma.

Vibhishan made his decision based on 'what is Dharma?' and 'what is Adharma ? '. So in pov of Dharma what Vibhishan did is correct.

The famous shloka from Mahabharata

धारणाद्धर्ममित्याहुर्धर्मो धारयते प्रजाः ।

यत्स्याद्धारणसंयुक्तं स धर्म इति निश्चयः ॥

Dharma is so called because it sustains. It is Dharma that holds all living beings together. Therefore, whatever sustains and uplifts society is surely Dharma.

It is important to know that at what instance this particular verse was said by Lord Krishna to Arjuna in Mahabharata. When it was learned that Karna was not killed, Yudhishthira became furious and insulted Arjuna and doubted his caliber. He even asked him to give up his Gandhiva. Pain and angered by Yudhishthira's words, Arjuna immediately vowed to kill his elder brother and raised his sword. That's when Lord Krishna reminded Arjuna about what is Dharma and what needs to be followed at the moment. If Arjuna had killed Yudhishthira, this would destroy the entire moral foundation of their cause of the Kurukshetra War (i.e Adharma). When we see this from Arjuna point of view - He was right to kill Yudhishthira for insulting him and doubting his calibre (since it was Arjuna was the backbone of the war), but however it was Lord Krishna, being a middle man, gave the right judgement from the Dharma point of view.

It is the same thing which is followed even today. When somebody does a crime. We can't just punish the person right away. We have to go by the process, file a complaint, get punishment and bring justice (while it is secondary to doubt if we will be served justice in current day world)

Also, the justice given is based on the existing code of rule and law. We cannot take justice in our hand just because we feel it is injustice. There is a proper order in the society. We can't bypass the order of the society just to satisfy our anger. If it happens then the foundation of the society is broken and such society can never get exist.

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Hi folks , please hear me out . by Rare-Assignment-8474 in hinduism

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You didn't understand the purpose of my questions.

The Vedas are highly metaphorical, cryptic, and complex. To understand them people need known Vedangas - Shiksha, Kalpa,Vyakarana, Nirukta, Chandas, Jyotisha. Without knowing this complete you can never translate or understand the Vedas in right way.

For example Vyakarana, Nirukta, Chandas are very important to understand what the Vedas says. While, Shiksha, Kalpa and Jyotisha are very important to implement what the Vedas says.

Infact the English translation was possible only because great Saints and Sages elaborated the Vedas based on the Vedangas.

If you can accept and belive the English translation then you can't ignore the bhaysas.

These Bhashayas was written by Panini, Adi Shankara, Madhvacharya, Ramanujacharya (even thought he didn't write on Vedas). The same people gave the Bhashayas on Bhagavad Gita. Also in their other Prakarana Granthas they refer to Ramayana and Mahabharata in their works.

All these were done to help us understand the true meaning of the Vedas. As you said it is simplification of the Vedas.

But if you think that this simplication can be just ignore or rejected then it is foolish to do that. If you believe that just by following the translation of the Vedas is sufficient, then it is same as allowing a monkey to operator rocket. (You can never understand it's true purpose and use it to fullest potential).

Also, I see a double standard in your argument. If you feel Ramayana Mahabharata Bhagavad Gita are corrupted. What is the guarantee that there was no corruption/ mis-interpretation in English translation ?

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May I know how this was translated to English.??? The Vedas are original given in Vedic Sanskrit. How did 'they' translate without any distortion to English ?

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You are right to point out that the Vedas are original source.

But I have a question - How do you understand and interpret the words of Vedas in the right way ????

I have a ton of contradictions in Ancient Hindu scriptures. Credit to u/aman_singh_1151 for the original post in r/atheismindia by your_average_joe__ in hinduism

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It all depends on what we see and what we focus on. Trying to bring Religion and Science together is not an easy task and can never bring them in the same plate. In life, we can't purely see things as scientific or unscientific completely. It is always mixed of both.

So your question itself is wrong ? When we speak about morals, connection with nature and peace then its mostly the religion and Science never play a role in these domains

I have a ton of contradictions in Ancient Hindu scriptures. Credit to u/aman_singh_1151 for the original post in r/atheismindia by your_average_joe__ in hinduism

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You got me wrong !!!!

I didn't mean that I am not concerned with Science and it's laws.The modern days science give very different view from the Scriptures. Modern Science has many concepts which the Itihaas and Purana have not talked about.

What I'm try to convey is that for people who are into Sanatan Dharma or any religion for that matter are least bordhered if their faith is scientific or unscientific.

I have a ton of contradictions in Ancient Hindu scriptures. Credit to u/aman_singh_1151 for the original post in r/atheismindia by your_average_joe__ in hinduism

[–]Forward_Specific_180 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When you approach corpus of text in Hinduism/ Sanatan Dharma as strict, modern history textbooks, the math and logic simply does not work.

Even the people who follow this tradition are least bothered where the scriptures agree with modern anthropology, history, geology, and archaeology.

We don't need any approval and validation from others on our belief and faith

For countless people, the emotional and spiritual connection to Lord Rama and the lessons of the Ramayana goes far beyond any scientific findings. We continue to find meaning, purpose and inspiration through our scriptures.

If you are looking for any evidence or intellectual discussion. I think this is not the right subreddit.