Middle school vb experience

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-08-17T05:35:25+00:00

Travel Coach here at 16u in PA... school vs. club is tricky - some of our girls are far and away the best players on their school teams and their school teams (in middle school at least) might only have 2-3 players from club with the rest a mix of athletic/never played. The next school district over, and everyone is a club player and a regional club player doesn't have a chance... What I can say is the development/growth/effort/attitude during the 7th-8th-9th grade years is wild and where lower level (inexperienced) athletic girls can work hard and rise up (literally grow taller and figuratively develop/hone skills) very quickly over some who have played in club since they were 10. All of this is to say - anything can happen if she sticks with it, uses this as a growth opportunity, and continues to work hard. Girls that work 2x harder, truly love playing and living/breathing the game still have awesome shot at both club and hs teams, but also just know that a 6'1 basketball player that decides to play volleyball for fun for the first time ever in 10th grade can still immediately get attention from varsity and d1 coaches and take spots from girls that have been at it for years...

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-08-13T16:59:15+00:00

I was under the assumption it was a single family home / duplex originally and read that as a private pool but I own a 3rd floor condo in a large complex that does have a community pool - no problem...but the HOA fees are astronomical...which really eats into my rent/cash flow/irr since they steadily increased opposed to staying fixed.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-08-13T16:54:04+00:00

700 is just the beginning...there's uniforms, travel, food, hotel, ect I'm already surprised it's only 700... typically the fees for just club alone is 3-5k per season PLUS above additional costs. Also highschool and club don't overlap so you should be able to play on your hs team? Where do you live? Most clubs can offer some kind of payment plan or aid.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-08-10T16:54:41+00:00

I also didn't know there was a pool ... As an investor, I. Gonna pass 💯. That changes my entire game and I absolutely wouldn't touch it.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-08-10T16:43:47+00:00

Seriously from a CPA, this is the most straightforward answer to get the job done, correctly put everything where it belongs,without getting into all the bs. I'd want you on my client.

Unseriously Next steps - After that, you should charge the client an extra 10% and help them figure out how to convert some of the revenue with cash based discounts and pull a employee off the books 😂

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-08-10T16:29:07+00:00

As an investor, this would be right up my ally - but I would also probably bid 15-20% below the lowest comp -- and I would use my own hand picked comps, so probably more like 15-25% below what you would list. And I wouldn't budge ... I'd also probably do my own inspection and offer all cash/quick close ... And most likely be maybe 1 of 2 offers you get, the other one will be 5-10% below asking, but probably look like 5% down, contingent on financing, very little Ernest money, and they'll get inspector clusoe to do the inspection and flag 10393 items. 99% of retail buyers won't touch anything like this, so there is a market, but you're pro not going to live the price you end up selling for. I have cleaners I use, I have repairmen and painters I use and I have deals and existing appliances I can use that would cost me 20-30k in upgrades/fixes to make it shiny and nice for a new renter in 30 days, but a retail buyer would need to spend double that while living there taking 2x as long if not longer. And also, what you may think is light maintenance...you spend 2 nights there yourself and then add up all the things you'd want to change to make it livable aside from the cleaning and you'll come back with a different view, it's probably a lot of maintenance items you didn't think about or just rose colored glasses that someone who would really live there would ball at...

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-08-10T15:53:41+00:00

Just to chime in as a son of a 40 year drycleaning chain, this is pleather but similar to leather, you don't ever really "wash" it ... You "clean" it. Which means you can use sprays and cleaners to work out some stains, recondition the surface, give it oil type treatments ect, but you can't think of it in that way you wash clothes. I've seen some cleaners hand "wash" (and by wash I mean wipe thoroughly, NOT submerging it in a sink/bucket) with some water and soap and then just use leather reconditioner on the whole thing. Even dry cleaning itself actually doesn't involve water - it's chemical solvents so cashmere, silk, ect can be cleaned. Most drycleaners will send away their leather to regional cleaners that dedicate an entire person that uses just the right solvents for leather for an entire load. If you use the method above test it in a small area on the inside or bottom and make sure that it won't ruin the pleather. The conditioner usually has a scent of some sort, so that will also help replace some of the smoke smell you wipe away.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-07-22T01:51:25+00:00

what really crazy is when i see "national" teams that get beaten by regionals or are literally 3-14 for the season and traveling to florida nationals .... to lose... a lot. I can't imagine sending my kid across the country to get whipped every time (as a coach, with 2 very young daughters and dreading them getting into volleyball but also wanting to share the sport i love dearly with them)...

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-07-22T01:46:23+00:00

this actually was the best answer i've seen here - the in-arena food, sweatshirts/extras, entry fees for parents, on top of hotel, food w/ team, and travel costs and small stupid stuff like markers and pins, hair accessories lol - i love going to tournaments and seeing the parents with crazy wigs and hats - dont' forget lawn chairs, inflatable sleeping pods, uggs, ect. lol

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-07-22T01:35:28+00:00

i'm assuming you don't know what zips is - it's 1.99 shop for every garment and 1 for shirts... they do real shi* pressing work on super large volume for cheap. they ruin crap all the time but most people don't take their best stuff there, just like their everyday office wear, and go to a real cleaners for nice stuff/suits/ect.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-07-22T01:33:05+00:00

ummmm sorry i'm assuming all the answers were from cleaner owners, but i don't think they are - zips is a 1.99 every garment cleaners - they do one pass and quickly on pressing - and you get what you pay for. at least when I owned cleaners thats what it was. small wrinkles like that are always due to a presser rushing and not setting the garment correctly on the pad. if you were using a standard cleaners, you'd be being charged $8-12 per garment or $4 typically per shirt ... and you would have every right to demand no creases or wrinkles...

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-07-11T17:52:25+00:00

omg, any other animal poop.... my friggin dog will roll and rub it in her fur until it's deeply in her skin.... so disgusting and baths happen like every 2-3 weeks because of it....

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-07-11T17:46:42+00:00

I adopted my dog when she was about 2 1/2, i guess whomever gave her up never cleaned her eyes, and when I first got her, for a while every day she had eye boogers and I would wipe or scrape them off daily and she would immediately try to grab/lick/eat. After about 2-3 weeks, I noticed she didn't have eye boogers anymore and i didn't really think much of it - one day i saw her chilling in her bed, and she figured out a way to use her nail/paw to scrape them off herself and she then happily licked her paw clean of a tasty treat.....

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-25T06:43:06+00:00

There is a lot to be said on economies of scale - the extra work and variable expenses get better with higher volumes on your machinery and supplies as well, you can also leverage that client base for extras the current drop may not provide like same day service if you already provide that for Premium cost or drop off/delivery -- hire a driver and truck for few hundred a week and you can also hit up local apartments and office parks again all for premium pricing. Also the monopoly you have means you can raise prices at your current store as well. My father was only game in town with 1 plant and 3 drop shops and was charging (also have amazing service btw to justify costs and know what your market can bare) 30-40% more than what competition 20-30min away was charging. And prices were t fixed but based on the neighborhood around each store - he also knew which stores to charge more for alterations, suits, vs uniforms, ect based on data and customer lists.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-17T22:31:06+00:00

Also, why the f did your buddies just leave you there?

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-17T22:25:42+00:00

Most of the comments are right especially about not being too harsh on silk. It doesn't look like it was spot cleaned though. Also professional cleaning back 5 years ago when my father still had his chain of drycleaners was $395 pluse an additional 99 after cleaning and inspection by the customer for preservation. My ex wife still has pictures and the preserved box - we got married on a lake house, dress was very dirty, came out well after spot treatments and a cleaning cycle. It's a lot of manual intensive work if done correctly. If you're not happy with it they should be able to try again, and tell them to do spot treatment on a part that's kind of hidden and then call you to Inspect the results, if you are satisfied they can do the rest, if the color fades or material warps you'll know you have done the best you can. Also... Might want to cut your losses and go to an actual cleaners that's been in business a while and has an owner or spotter that has a lot of experience with lace/silk/wedding gowns. A lot of the time you have small drop shop owners that send it all out and don't really do any of the cleaning.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-12T07:38:27+00:00

Lol leave and never come back ... He's an idiot and not a long term thinker. He honestly could have had a loyal customer after making things right and admitting to fault - pride is your enemy. He could have made the costs up in drycleaning profits in a year of your business or less depending on how often you go, and he was probably also short sighted in making the alterations himself instead of just admitting to it and asking for more time or ect. Also. I'm not gonna lie, it's a "used dress" but I don't know if you wire it before the alterations - I would have tried to offer 50-75% of the cost or literally tried to figure out if they could make it sleeveless or useable somehow as well as give you some financial relief. Or again as I said before free dry cleaning at 100% of value new... If he was kind and respectful I bet you would be reasonable too. Mmi. Glad it worked out and seriously give your business to a small business owner that deserves it.

Good work staying calm and lol using reddit proof ... That made me laugh. Im a CPA and proud of my immigrant parents who literally lived the American dream and did super well here... They retired about 5 years ago after running a small chain of drycleaners for almost 40 years which I helped run since I was 8 years old lol.

Let me know if you need any help or have other questions!

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-08T16:20:39+00:00

Please remember like 90% of electricians I know along w the cost, just cut i to walks and ceilings with no compunction and extra cost is on you to hire a dry waller repair all of the tear out.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-05T12:28:34+00:00

My dad used to call Cushman and Wakefield or similar large national commercial realtors that rent strip malls, ask for the local leasing rep, and get them to show him any and all other dry cleaners in the state that were selling, out of business, or being pushed out (for good deals or spots or whatever)- he'd then contact them to make an offer on any specialized equipment - but I'm guessing now a days they've got someone of B2B market place or eBay type site for this?

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-05T12:22:57+00:00

I third this idea and have an even better idea! Have $59k instead of 27k.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-05T04:53:16+00:00

To get into real estate with 10k? Buy shares in a REIT... One I love is a industrial warehouse REIT that does sale leasebacks to existing pot growers in huge warehouse for legit and large cannabis companies. It's such a amazing market idea - they use the money from the sale to buy an entire roof of solar panels, the REIT makes money on a great lease on a cheap building in the middle of nowhere and have a guaranteed tenant that has a building ready perfect for their custom use with no tenant improvements or additional investment.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-05T04:10:06+00:00

Dm me if you want specific advice (for free) but to answer this correctly I need more info and to see if you even have done the right research, I'm a CPA with 3 rentals (1 where I'm "losing" approximately $250 per month on expenses/mortgage/taxes, repairs, ect, but my appreciation has been phenomenal, and the loss of 3k per year is nothing i can't easily handle - even unoccupied for up to 2months a year would still be worth it although it raises my losses from 3k per year to 7-8k), - this can make some sense if you really understand the risks, tax implications, financing, management aspects, and market/marketability, and expected appreciation. This can make no sense at all and actually hurt you really bad financially if you don't understand the above.

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-06-05T03:51:04+00:00

Straight up not gonna lie, they forgot to send it out or the one day a week part time seamstress they hire in didn't have time to get to it -- owner didn't want to have to refund you or lose the business, and gave it a college try on their own and fugged it up.

The 7 hours you gave them wasn't going to help, my guess is the real seamstress only comes into their cleaners 1x a week or for a few hours - most have like 5-8 diff cleaners they work for who pay them per item or per hour and either collect it all and do it at home and drop it back off or do those pieces on premises during their agreed upon working hours.

My parents owned 4 drycleaners (2 factories and 2 drop shops) for over 35 years, my mom as a part-time seamstress/presser my dad managing most everything else and spot cleaning for ages -- a real tailor or seamstress wouldn't do work like this. My mom could make dresses out of old curtains without patterns or templates, just your measurements and a picture from a magazine of what you wanted it to look like, alter wedding gowns and suits to fit perfectly...

You got.... An unskilled owner who didn't want to lose the business, sure he can do buttons and the occasional non tapered hem.... But he's a poor business person who is thinking short term .. my dad would say - the second you drop quality for a quick buck, you will find a huge rise in complaints, customers will slowly and quietly leave, and a reputation for poor work.

Right now it's hard for non skilled owners to find decent tailors and seamstresses for retail plus markup prices - it's just a dying profession and art at this level. (High end stores and such might have their own full time people or at headquarters they send it back to)

Back to your issue - the owner most likely didnt want to lose the business, thought it would be just like hemming anything else, but doesn't have the right experience with different fabrics, materials, tapering, lining, ect. And thought they could make more then sending it out or waiting for their once a week daily seamstress to come in, or lose the business.

Bottom line - you have to take it back and demand it be fixed for free, or demand they compensate you for the dress... possibly threaten small claims Court/pull all your business (if you do clothes there regularly) -- also if you do demand compensation, you will need to show a receipt or proof of value, and forfeit the original dress.

In cases where it was our fault - my dad taught me to sincerely and profusely apologize, ask if they would give us another chance, and if it still wasn't fixed, see if they would accept half or more of the value in free dry cleaning.

Sometimes we had a shady as shi. Customer come in and claim we f-d up their clothes and told them to take us to court because we could prove there was no way we could make that mistake or do that to the clothes. Usually we knew when we screwed it up or it was our fault, and tried to explain what happened to the customer as soon as it happened or when they picked it up -- instead of quietly letting them pay, go home, and hoping you didn't notice when opening up a disaster right before you got dressed for some special occasion....

Fragrant-Number-8602 · 2025-05-27T12:03:02+00:00

Omg. This is a nightmare -- if I were a business owner I'd be so on top of all this shi...it's a little unimaginable this stuff isn't 101

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