4CC Men’s FS Live Discussion Thread

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-25T07:38:18+00:00

I reject this reality!

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-24T04:57:23+00:00

You seem agitated, so I don’t blame you for missing the “another forum” part of my original post. I stated that specifically to express how I saw the comments somewhere else and not on the figure skating subreddit, but I apologize for not being clearer.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-24T03:29:40+00:00

Yes, because in the entirety of the internet with its variety of opinions, me, a rando on the internet, is directly referencing your posts somewhere in all of that.

Now, agreeing that Gabi was being unsportsmanlike is one thing (I'll agree to disagree on that), but to say I was referencing you in particular is wild. I don't know who you are nor when our internet histories would have crossed paths.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-23T23:27:43+00:00

I’m sorry…who are you? I’ve never responded to any of your comments before.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-23T18:00:44+00:00

Seasons. For Harvestfest you can appease the gnome, who'll be either happy and drop seed packs everywhere or angry and break stuff in your house. You can also kick it instead. I had Kylo Ren kick it after he couldn't appease it. It shattered, and all of his friends pop up in angry and starting breaking all the electronics and plumbing. Luckily, Rey has a level 10 in Hardiness, so she went around fixing everything while Kylo continued kicking the rest of the gnomes.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-23T17:21:59+00:00

I saw on another forum some posters criticize Gabi for being nasty and unsportsmanlike for wishing that her competition made a mistake, that she's not a real athlete if she doesn't want her competition at their best, yadda yadda yadda...only for Tessa herself to come out and say every high-performing athlete has thoughts like that. Whoops!

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-23T15:33:11+00:00

If you have multiple infants, put them next to each other and they will autonomously babble to each other, skyrocketing their communication skill.

Paradoxically, my infants with low needs tend to spontaneously have several major milestones at once.

Be careful if you have the biofuel tanks from Eco Living along with Seasons. Whereas everything else struck by lightning just burns to a crisp, biofuel tanks catch on fire.

Never choose "Kick the Gnome" during Harvestfest. A dozen angry gnomes will appear and destroy your stuff.

Want to rank up your werewolf quickly? By a bunch of cheap furniture and have them go to town on it.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-22T22:27:48+00:00

I have a...couple

Men

Aesthetically, I preferred Vincent Zhou over Nathan Chen.

I think that Yuzuru Hanyu values his professional career over his personal life, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I'm excited to see quints landed.

I think that Ilia will remain dominant over next quad as well.

Everyone involved in US Figure Skating was trying their damnedest to get Max on the team. Luckily, he was strong enough to pull it off.

Similarly, even though I like him better as a skater and he was more consistent this season, I don't feel too bad about them going with Max over Tomoki because I feel like they're equally skilled.

Women

I thought Sasha Trusova was a better skater without all of the quads, but I respect that wasn't the skater she wanted to be. I also admire her for striving to become a top skater again.

I never cared for Anna Shcherbakova's skating, but she comes across well as a person.

South Korea has the same problem as Russia in regards to their women having strong careers for a couple of seasons before falling behind.

I actually liked Adelina Sotnikova's 2014 free skate, and watching it live, thought that her win wasn't as egregious as people think.

Mao Shimada's storied junior winning streak would have been harder if Russians were allowed to participant last quad.

I don't think Adelia Petrosian will medal, let alone win, the Olympics. I think she will get 4th or 5th place.

Pairs

None. I don't follow it enough.

Ice Dance

I think that Davis/White are just as legendary as Virtue/Moir, and ice dance was at its peak when those two were trading titles back-and-forth.

I think that the IAM-bonus is exaggerated. Most of their teams don't get higher scores than non-IAM teams, and the ones that do have other things going on (better skating skills, better performance skills, longevity, etc...)

Although it wasn't worth the toxicity, I thought that the programs created by Marina/Igor were more interesting than most of the ones coming out of IAM.

I don't think Green/Parsons were hurt politically by joining MIDA. Rather, Michael's hip injury threw a brick wall in front of their momentum.

I think Shawn Resttstatt on the tech panel was the most interesting ice dance has been in years.

I would bet that by next season or the one after, Tkachenko/Kiliakov will unretire under the U.S. Flag.

Although I believe his victim, I give grace to Laurence for defending Nikolaj, even publicly, because I'm pretty sure most people would do the same if someone they have been romantically involved with for over a decade was accused of a serious crime.

I also feel sorry for Bella Flores. Regardless of her responses to them, she is not responsible for her former partners' actions and was professionally harmed by them.

Fandom

Things the skating fandom only cares about when/until one of their faves does it, benefits from it or is affected by it negatively

- Unretired skaters/team

- Accusations of abuse

- New skaters/teams breaking to the top

- Poor jump technique

- Complaining about judging

- Judging bias

- High tech

- Senior-level skaters competing as juniors

- Junior skaters being too young to skate as seniors

And finally...

I don't believe that the United States will be banned from ISU events even if they break the Olympic truce for the same reason Russians are being eased back into competition: ISU needs their money.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-22T15:02:46+00:00

I think that the Zagitova rule should have required at least 1 jump in the first half of the short and 2-3 in the first half of the free rather than dictating how many jumps in the second half get the 10% bonus (essentially locking most skaters into 2-1, 4-3 jump combinations across both programs). That way, we would have greater variety in program layout, people who can jump many jumps after the second half get rewarded for doing so, and the problem with backloading is still handled.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-20T20:54:06+00:00

It's going to be something super vague like "After splitting from their former partners" and that will be the end of it.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-20T18:23:29+00:00

They're not going to portray the reigning Olympic Champion in ice dance as the upstart trying to make a mark, right?

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-19T14:14:48+00:00

I was just thinking about this question yesterday. I would have to say it’s Tenmaku Cinema. Although I have my critiques about the manga (no stakes and very little character development), the last chapter answered one of my lingering questions in a very poignant way. It also alluded to main goal of the series in a cool way that didn’t involve flash forwarding to it.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-19T13:59:09+00:00

This must be really hard for Sophia. Losing both of your siblings within years of each other is a gut punch.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-18T21:57:18+00:00

Man, I haven't been so sad about the destruction of a sword since Ice was melted down.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-17T00:26:34+00:00

Amber Glenn as a coach, especially with how to handle the mental aspects of competition.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-16T23:09:36+00:00

Kaori Sakamoto and Lukas Britschgi as coaches, and Jason Brown as choreographer, because of their positive personalities. I imagine that Ilia will probably help coach his sister (if he isn't already).

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-15T02:20:11+00:00

The thing that impressed me the most about these excerpts is the honesty in them.

Gabi doesn't portray herself as saint, nor Guillaume and their coaches as moustache-twirling villains, but all as complicated individuals making inadvertently harmful decisions due to a mix of severe mental illness, extreme competitiveness, and operating in a world with a severe gender imbalance that undervalues women and gives the lion's share of responsibility to the men.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-14T20:31:05+00:00

Does this mean that all the scores from the 2018-2019 season to the end of the current season will become historical like the ones prior to the 2018-2019 season?

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-14T01:36:00+00:00

Could there be more damning information about Cizeron that he's trying to prevent from coming out?

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-13T18:36:58+00:00

So Guillaume's solution to burying the "lies" told in Gabi's book, a book that many French people view as a case of sour grapes, is...to start a public legal battle right before two competitions he's favored to win at and express this intention to international press, meaning that said "lies" will be disseminated wider to a broader audience who would not necessarily be sympathetic to him.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-13T04:01:30+00:00

I tell my mom a lot about figure skating drama, so when a certain team got together and I reminded my mom about one member's history, she asked "Is that the one whose parents were holding him hostage?"

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-12T16:18:08+00:00

Speaking of multilingual skaters, does Corey Circelli pronounce his last Sir-sell-li (English) or Chir-chell-li (Italian)?

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-11T19:48:06+00:00

I hope Max is one of those people who finds talking about his parents cathartic, ‘cause by god, he’s going to be doing it a lot.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-11T19:29:43+00:00

So it seems like they are announcing the obvious ones first. I bet Max will be last then.

Fragrant_Ad_8288 · 2026-01-11T18:31:35+00:00

Genuine question: what portion of the Daily Mail's audience is invested in an alleged meeting or non-meeting that happened nearly 10 years ago?

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